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MN is quite happy to let innacurate thread titles be posted that could promote discrimination against disabled children and their famillies

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wasuup3000 · 24/08/2010 16:10

Title say's it all.

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Casserole · 25/08/2010 11:28

I used to work for an LA. I've worked for several actually, some in wealthy areas and some in the most deprived areas of the country. The ones in the most deprived areas issued far more statements for emotional and behavioural difficulties.

I don't anymore, because I got fed up with people shrieking at me like Wassup has been shrieking at TCNY. Which is a real shame, because I worked fucking hard to make the lives of "my" families better, and stood my ground to fight for better provision in arenas where everyone else was several million levels higher than me. I got into it because I cared about SEN, but I left because of parental abuse.

I won't be joining in another bunfight.

PawMum · 25/08/2010 11:28

omg this like the other thread where the parents of severely disabled children were accussed of being older mothers who pro created with their first cousins!

ChippingIn · 25/08/2010 11:30

I don't think MN does have double standards, it is very rare that any threads are pulled and this is a good thing, otherwise the boards become a reflection of 'their' opinion.

Racist/gay/sexist threads/posts do get left - the OP's/posters get put straight by the (other) 'posters' and it moves on.

As I said earlier, it's like when you buy an orange car, on driving to the dealership there aren't any orange cars on the road, as soon as you leave the lot there are loads!! Are there any more? No, you just see more because you now associate with it.

Do you want a site that is heavily moderated? I don't. If you do, you would have to take the good with the bad and without wanting to start another arguement, there are already boards like that out there - have a peek on NMs for example.

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 11:31

Sorry about your emotional baggage casserole can't see why you have to abuse me because of it though. I have not personally abused you.

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Glitterknickaz · 25/08/2010 11:32

such a shame you are in a minority, Casserole

sarah293 · 25/08/2010 11:32

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wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 11:36

I also read some research that refridgerator mothers cause Autism, doesn't make it true.

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PawMum · 25/08/2010 11:36

I couldn't think of anything worse than haviong an orange car, unless it was a 1970s original

loopyloops · 25/08/2010 11:37

Without the correct stimulation a brain will fail to grow properly, and as emotional responses are learned, of course neglected children are more likely to have SEN. This doesn't mean that SENs are fictitious.

Casserole · 25/08/2010 11:38

I have no emotional baggage thanks Wasuup. Like I said, I left, and now I do something much more fulfilling where people actually appreciate my help. If you'd care to quote the part of my post which abused you, or for that matter report me, then I will look at it.

Glitterknickaz there are some shit officers out there, no doubt. There are some good ones. There are many people trying to do their best within a system that won't allow them to. It's a shame but it's the people who actually care who get beaten down and who give up.

Riven is right in her last post; there's lots of evidence to that effect.

Tiredmumno1 · 25/08/2010 11:39

It is not that easy to get a statement.

in the area we live now the lea have said they barely issue any, and they do not usually give a lot of hours when issued.

my ds already had his statement before we moved here, which was extremely difficult to get, as some of the people on the panel think they know better than all the medical professionals.

Casserole · 25/08/2010 11:39

I don't think anyone's saying that those SENs are ficticious, are they Loopy? That's why the statements are still issued.

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 11:41

got fed up with people shrieking at me like Wassup has been shrieking at TCNY

I haven't been shrieking thanks. TCNY failed to see her double standards so I was pointing her in the right direction.

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Casserole · 25/08/2010 11:42

No, you're right, it's not that easy to get a statement. It's not meant to be. And it's getting harder the more money is squeezed from budgets in this crazy climate in which we live.

loopyloops · 25/08/2010 11:43

I'm really confused.

I'm going to bow out now because no-one is able to offer me a point to this argument.

For the record, my POV is that either Breton has a personality disorder, or is just plain wrong.

Tiredmumno1 · 25/08/2010 11:44

Casserole if you did indeed help people who needed statementing, then i am sure they appreciated it.

some people just dont get chance to thank everyone involved in the process.

but i am sure it has not got unnoticed.

i am very appreciative of all people who helped in the past.

Casserole · 25/08/2010 11:44

You have been shrieking at her, for quite some time now. I'm not the only one to mention it, either. But pointing it out isn't abusing you.

Other posters here have been putting across reasonable arguments. They are much more profitable to get you somewhere. If you stopped attacking people and starting laying out some rational paragraphs of argument, this would get further.

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 11:44

Good POV loopy! I agree with you.

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PawMum · 25/08/2010 11:45

I don't think it is very fair on a forum where the parents obviously have and do care about their children who have special needs, to trot out the old argument that it could be their fault. I also don't think it helps that certain professionals post on thread with such outward contempt for parents. I am actually gobsmacked.

Tiredmumno1 · 25/08/2010 11:46

not gone unnoticed - apologies

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 11:46

I have not been shrieking thanks!! TCNY is just slow to get the point so needed a bit of tripping up to try to get her to see it.
Who have I been attacking casserole?

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Casserole · 25/08/2010 11:47

Oh Tired many people did say thankyou, don't get me wrong. And that's not why I did it; it was just a case of doing my job and doing what I believed in.

But some parents did abuse you. Several of my colleagues were physically threatened, in person, over the phone and in writing. And after a while, nothing's worth coming to work in fear for, you know?

Anyway. I'm sensing the actual discussion part of this thread is over so I'm going to bow out now. Wishing all of you who do have children with SNs every success in getting them the provision they need. I'm sure I'll see you around Smile

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 11:48

Have a nice day casserole.

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Claw3 · 25/08/2010 11:49

Casserole - "many children DO get statements issued on the basis of emotional and/or behavioural difficulties" This is misleading.

The only time ANY child receives a statement is because of lack of progress and after all other intervention has failed or you can prove that help and support they would need far outweighs the help and support a child could receive from the school budget.

An LA would not just issue a statement, without fully assessing or having reports from experts who have already fully assessed a child.

If LA thought a child's difficulties were due to bad parenting and not as a result of a learning disability, they would not be given a statement.

Tiredmumno1 · 25/08/2010 11:50

Well said claw