In thinking that David Cameron deserves an apology from LOADS of people on here...

[BarmyArmy]

Because of this

So he has effectively done fuck all then, other than say PCT's should supply more than 4 nappies?

Perhaps i have got the wrong end of the stick here, but why should we be thankful as Barmy suggests?

Seems all DC has done is made a bit of media show, Riven still doesnt have her nappies.

I really don't see why people should be grateful that they will have enough nappies to allow their kids a basic standard of comfort and quality of life. This isn't a treat David Cameron has offered disabled families, its a basic human right to have dignity.
Are people meant to the their forelocks and take back their feelings of unease at the harsh cuts, because the conservative are attempting to show a tiny bit of humanity in the face of overwhelming bad press? call me a cynic but could this perhaps be an attempt to curry favour with the public, after all not everyone has received the products they need yet have they?

not really tethersend, just amazed some people here think money might drop out of the sky without some personal sacrifice to get us out of our debt...

I have never seen such class wars as here on MN, either lets all burn the benefit scum or lets all burn the gideons and penelopes! Very odd and bitter really...might go back to the thread with the lady who's newborn smells of steak...she was far more sensible.

riven she already replied to me about that post.

daftpunk Thu 19-Aug-10 10:45:05
You Misunderstand me 2shoes.

I wasn't talking about Riven personally, I was talking in general. And generally speaking lefties have a sense of entitlement that you don't find in other people. I think the disabled deserve all the help they can get, and I wouldn't begrudge them a penny.

I was thinking more of the women who have 6 kids by 6 different fathers and expect everyone else to pay for them...

I wasn't put on this earth to pay for feckless idiots.

hang on...would that be the same daftpunk who was carrying on a while ago about how she should be allowed to inherit 650k tax free?

[brian explodes]

You don't have to be a political genius to work it out.
Nice, well run areas with low unemployment are usually conservative. Areas with high levels of unemployment and benefit dependency are Labour.

There's no simpler way of putting it.

Simple indeed.

Altinkum, that was all mony committed to/ wasted under labour...not tory govt. Not saying it will be hundreds of times better, but surely you can see that it hasnt all just been wasted in the last 3 months...but over many years.

Coraltoes - provision of sufficient quality and quantity of incontinence supplies may be more expensive in the short term, but can lead to savings in the longer term.

Someone who cannot be changed as often as they need, and whose incontinence supplies do not keep their skin as dry as possible may well develop sores/ulcers. They may already be more prone to these if their mobility is reduced (ie bed/chair bound).

Someone who gets sores because of staying wet/dirty for too long will take longer to heal - because the sore will continue to be wet/soiled whenever the person urinates/defaecates - and the poor quality/quantity of their incontinence supplies won't have changed either, which will exacerbate the problem.

If their mobility is reduced, the pressure on their bottoms due to immobility also makes these sores far slower to heal (pressure reduces oxygen supply to the tissues which can cause breakdown in the first place and retards healing).

All this means more NHS time, care and supplies will be needed to treat the sores - even hospital treatment, if they are really bad/slow to heal. The costs of this need to be set against the costs of providing decent incontinence supplies.

Prevention is better than cure, surely??!

Re; my 650k inheritance.

I'll let someone else say it for me...

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"

Riven - good point you made about some people getting more than they need while others go without. That encapsulates both the waste and arbitrary cruelty of the NHS that really needs tackling.

My MIL works as a sheltered accomodation assistant and she says the old people (all fully able bodied) get so many repeat free prescriptions of over the counter medicines they sell or give them away to friends and family.

Riven - we had that exact situation with DS2.
And when we cancelled they didn't listen. Andthen we couldn't find any way to get them back to them.
It was sooo frustrating.

BeenBeta - I worked as a staff nurse in an old peoples home during the summer vacation once (whilst a mature student at Uni), and decided one day to empty and clean out the medicine cupboard.

Many of the residents had standing orders for some of their medication, and amongst other things, I unearthed 7.5 litres of lactulose!! We had 35 residents, not all of whom needed lactulose, and the maximum daily dose is 45ml - we had enough lactulose to ......... well - words fail me!!

Nb - lactulose is a poo-softening medication for people with constipation

I don't owe him a damn thing.

SDTG

That is a shit load of lactulose.

I am not going to thank him for doing something he promised, especially after its taken so much campaigning to get him to agree.

You are missing the point. It's all about timing and jumping to conclusions.