to think a MN kicking is deserved here

[schoolpanic]

dh just tweeted these vile t shirts (in ourtraged horror, not amusement)

www.jamrags.com/viewDetail.php?proid=79&color=Black

www.jamrags.com/viewDetail.php?proid=70&color=Navy

and yes, they're meant to be offensive. but as a humourless feminist and proud of it i think we should object. strongly.

but how!?

capricorn- I wasn't excusing them. Poorly worded!

I meant they are offending many distinct social groups. Me included.

The Police can actually arrest and prosecute these people, as it's illegal to incite anyone to violence and racist hatred. Just the coffee / Muslim tee should do.

I think a call to 911 - local Police is in order, with a Cease and Desist letter to the persons involved in the company, the persons hosting the website, from a Solicitor.

I'm not in the UK so it will have to be one of you!

Go on! Get on the phone

some of these are awful but a few are quite funny. A good friend of mine owns these ones (bought from a shop in town so they are stocked elsewhere):
www.jamrags.com/viewDetail.php?proid=54&color=Grey
www.jamrags.com/viewDetail.php?proid=60&color=Red
www.jamrags.com/viewDetail.php?proid=104&color=Black
normally only around his house and not out in town admittedly but most people have a bit of a giggle when they see him. Its not like anyone takes them seriously! He's a really nice guy by the way, not some of the horrid names mentioned on this thread for people wearing them!
the racist ones are in bad taste but i can't say i would be outraged to see them. I don't know anyone who would think they were the actual views of the person wearing them. Theres far more important things to worry about.

Just in case anyone wanted to know

THe hosts for their website are
Fasthosts Internet Limited, [email protected]

I thought they were funny because they were completely outrageous.

And I can say with certainty you are not supposed to take them seriously.Did you notice that they set out to offend everyone?

And (like them or not)being able to buy them shows that we (as a country) have freedoms that many other countries will never have.

I don't like the C**'s ones because that's just common.

Just had to point out that the 'heroin = moreish' thing isnt from Peep Show.

It was the fab

That website is repugnant btw.

Don't worry Bunny- we established Peep Show was crack, not heroin

Doh. That'll learn me for not reading the whole thread tethers .

Crack, heroin- let's not split hairs

Dear Fasthosts

I believe your company hosts the website www.jamrags.com/

I wonder if you are aware that the company is selling (and displaying on their website) Tshirts containing slogans which include racial and religious hatred, encourage rape, and promote violence.

Although the company deliberately trys to be offensive, I feel they have overstepped the mark of reasonable behaviour and may fall foul of the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006. As service provider I believe you may have responsibility for their content, and so felt you should know what they are publishing.

Thanks
MichaelaS

Is there an outraged bandwagon to jump on?

Count me in!!

I don't know how some of you would have survived your Tuesday evening without having these to fret about.

Something must be done!!!!

(Heaven help the idea that you just don't buy them yourselves)

This can be reported to The Met online as a Hate Crime.

The website gives a London address.

the "jamrags" website that is gives a London address.

btw "jamrags" is slang for a used sanitary towel

BrightLightBrightLight - agree, they should be shut down, but given 'freedom of speech' they may well have some (thick) supporters from the arty parts of London as they are just 'testing the boundaries'.

I'm normally difficult to offend, but the whole site strikes me as out to do so, even in the way they explain themselves, sprinkling 'bloody' here and there.

They did, however, choose to register the domain with a 'contact privacy' service, (but have given a postal address of course). I suppose if I lived nearer to London, I'd be happy to put some dyed-red T-shirts (complete with bullet holes) in their doorway, and on their windows, with a note "saying you'll be next" just to see how offending their views on personal safety went down...

However, I will be complaining to AffiliateFuture.co.uk (which is used to pass on commission to any twits who decide to promote this bunch of sickos) and Fasthosts, which currently hosts the website (IP 213.171.218.130)

Tiny shame we don't have a law forbidding the use of the Swastika symbol, or they'd be in trouble immediately.

Barmy... just because there are worse things happening in the world doesn't mean the lesser issues should be 'accepted' when they, too, are obscene in their own, though smaller, way.

NetworkGuy - if printing words on a t-shirt is a crime then we have lost our freedom of speech.

One would never get away with such attempts to censor in the USA.

You don't like these t-shirts? Fine, don't buy one, don't visit the site, leave it be.

Some of those t-shirts are very funny.

"Christianity - one woman's affair that got out of hand" - very mild satire, I'm a Christian and I'd wear that.

"9 out of 10 people enjoy gang-rape" - that one makes a serious point using satire - it mocks people who use statistics to justify anything, it mocks arseholes who promote gang rape (from the dailymail who salaciously love stories about 'roastings' to the hard core pornographers who's favourite bag of tricks is to have fake gang-rape scenes where the woman loves it) and it makes the point that the person being rapes isn't enjoying it. It's a pretty clever t-shirt really.

Obviously loads of the others are disgusting beyond measure but like others I'm horrified to wake up to the news about the pregnant woman being murdered by the taliban.

BarmyArmy - It's promoting racism... that illegal, no? In this country there are 'limits' to our free speech. HTH

Oh FFS I just despair of this kind of pathetic, self-important, humourless whiny-arsing. 'Boo hoo, shut down one small t-shirt company because they are using clumsy humour in order to shock'.
If you don't like the t-shirts, don't buy them. Several of them are very funny.
And these

this

Blue here

here and several others are taking the piss out of white heterosexual men too. So at least look at the whole site before bleating that it's 'only' having a go at women, black people and Muslims.

Which of the shirts are promoting racism?

Being funny and being offensive are not mutually exclusive.

Those t-shirts are undoubtedly causing offence, but some of them are fucking hilarious.

You can be offended and laugh at the same time.

"The Police can actually arrest and prosecute these people, as it's illegal to incite anyone to violence and racist hatred. Just the coffee / Muslim tee should do."

Saying you don't like muslims is not an incitement to violence or racial hatred, it's extremely ignorant but that is not a crime.Directly imploring people to commit violence against Muslims would be different. The standard for such things is extremely high. If you want to look for the extent to which a persons freedom of speech is protected before they can be charged with incitement to violence then look at how long Abu Hamza (possible SP mistake, the preacher with the hook hand) was allowed to preach his hatred.

"BarmyArmy - It's promoting racism... that illegal, no? In this country there are 'limits' to our free speech."

Which ones are promoting racism? There are certainly ones which could be considered racist (the crime is for black people one for example) but that does not necessarily mean it is promoting racism.
Yes there are limits to free speech, defemation laws are an example. Being racist isn't one of them. Promoting violence against specific groups is one, but expressing a dislike or preference for a particular group is not.

BLBL: Sorry but free speech includes the right to say things that other people don't like. Your sense of humour doesn't get to be a universal benchmark just because it's a bit more educated.
ANd it's not, after all, as though these T-shirts say 'Kill all [insert name of oppressed group here]'. You (or any other individual) may find the slogans unfunny but that doesn;t mean they are seriously-intended instructions to do harm.

And I despise the kind of officious twattery that goes 'Woo, bwahh, I'm offended by a small silly t-shirt company, I'm going to mount a big campaign to get them closed down ecause my mainstream sensibilities are so fucking important'. If you;ve got that much outrage, put it to better use by aiming at a justified hard target, not one that is both fairly irrelevant (not a lot of people would actually buy and wear these t-shirts, and most of those who do are people with little or no actual power) and a soft, weak target (small company, not much money for good lawyer to defend them on free speech grounds.)

People over 18 who wear any "funny" t-shirts are suffering from a severe lack of personality anyway. To then try and achieve one with hackneyed "shocking" t shirts displaying gags nicked from elsewhere is truly pathetic.

If you're going to offend, at least be original.