To be shocked at the swimwear section on this morning today??

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John Scott was back because he likes dressing 'curvy' ladeez!

They had people on who are doing some sort of pageant, talking about how they were bullied for their weight issues in school and how this is giving them confidence.

He showed swimsuits that 'take 10lbs of you' swimsuits that 'go up to a size 32' and ways to drape a sarong to show off your 'curves'

AIBU in thinking that theres a difference in being curvy and being clinially obese?????
Yes its fine to not be a size 8, yes its fine to enjoy your food, yes its fine to wear swimwear whatever age or size you are ....... but calling these ladies 'curvy' One of them was clearly clinically obese, and he was celebrating the fact that these women could wear swimwear and embrace their bodies.

Sorry but you can embrace your body as much as you like, but being that weight is not healthy, its just as bad as putting super skinny size 0 models on there are saying how great they look in swimwear

I really don't agree about Eva Longoria being curvy. To me she's the antithesis.

Sorry! saw that you were showing too different body types...having a slow day

Eva is tiny though...

No need to wet yourselves ladies. Of course it is possible to be curvy and a small size. I am size 6 and have 28GG breasts (all my own!), a waist that goes in and hips that go out.

Nastiness towards smaller folk does nothing to improve attitudes towards overweight/obese people.

OP I dislike the use of the word curvy as a euphemism for very overweight too, but NO ONE likes shopping for swimming costumes and a fashion piece is not the place for medical terms.

Have you ever met Nigella? I have (well I've seen her at the supermarket). She is most definitely not a size 6.

I am not remotely sensitive about my weight but I think if you're a size 8 and you're a woman in your 30s and 40s, you watch your weight very carefully. And that's clearly your prerogative. But I don't know anyone who is that slim who is my age who eats anything like a normal diet. Let's be honest - to be very slim, you can't eat 2000 calories a day once your metabolism slows down.

Anyway, that's a side issue. The real issue is the disgust some of you feel for the obese. It's horrible and these sorts of threads always brings it out.

Oh and incidentally I'm a size 12 so not clinically obese but I do have some sympathy with people who are.

fucking hell WOMEN CANT WIN

too skinny, you are a fucked up annie rexie

too fat, you are OBSESE and will DIE and GET DIABTES and make your CHILDREN FAT

I give up

OP YABU

i mean obese, grrr

I think Dawn French looks really pretty here but even she has totally lost her curves now which is a shame

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LadyBiscuit we really do exist. Not everyone who is small is also constantly dieting. Today so far I have eaten 2 pain aux raisins, a wispa duo, a packet of cadbury's fingers, a houmous and salad sandwich and an apple, two pieces of buttered toast and 2 cans of diet coke (because I like the taste). It's not a healthy diet - I do eat better than that most of the time I promise! - but if I eat the recommended 2000 calories a day I lose weight and look unpleasant.

It's not fair to make assumptions about people - I know some overweight women who eat next to nothing but gain weight due to PCOS etc.

That's the point, LadyBiscuit -- that Eva Longoria is a size 4-6 hourglass and Nigella Lawson a size 16ish hourglass but both are hourglassy.

Although I'm not sure EL is an hourglass, really, in her recent photos. Maybe Eva Mendes.

I don't see any disgust for the obese on here. I have been obese, and I was still me inside, just bigger. It's just that using all these euphemisms to describe people's size when really they are unhealthily overweight doesn't do anything to help people to realise that they may not be doingthe best thing for themselves and their health.

Obviously a segment on ThisMorning is not the time or place to focus on people's weight or size, as I said earlier, I don't see a problem with larger people being shown what options they have when it comes to swimwear.

But this constant use of 'curvy', 'real women' and the like in the media to describe people who are simply overweight just normalises the current situation we are finding ourselves in where more and more people are overweight to the point where it will have implications for our health service and so on in the longer term.

Neither am I on any kind of restrictive diet, I am a big believer in everything in moderation and plenty of exercise.

i didn't say Nigella Lawson was a size 6, jesus wept! I am saying she is hourglass TOO but a different body size! to show that you can be hourglass at varying body sizes! It is not the sole privelege of the slim OR the larger lady.

I am in my 30s and eat what I like, i just exercise and my body size remains a 8/10. I do not watch my weight very carefully. This it my point, why is it ok for some people to make judgements on other people's weight such as you to me and other people on here, and yet if I were to turn around and say

"well if you're a size X you must binge on X and Y" i'd be flamed. Can't you see both prejudices are totally wrong?! I'm not defending my right to criticise overweight people, i do not have that right, I am defending my own right not to be judged by my body shape. You seem to equate a slim body size with not eating enough, that is as annoying as me saying oh well ABC is fat cos she just eats lard. Do you not realise we all have different bodies with different demands?!

Size 32 is not curvy it is obese.

'real woman' used to describe anyone over a size 8 is massively insulting imo.

Eva Mendes looks lovely and healthy

Maybe it's just my friends then and I guess being mid/late 40s is different from your 30s

I don't think it's healthy to be either underweight or overweight. But neither do I think these women are being held up as an ideal shape which is the usual accusation thrown at skinny models. And that's the difference.

Actually Nigella truly does have the most amazing body. She probably is a size 8 around her middle but a 12 around the bum and boobs. She is like Marilyn Monroe

This is what Iceland recommends for a 'Girls Night In':

290g Extra Thin & Crispy Four Cheese Pizza - £1
425g Deep Pan Meat Feast Pizza - £1
2 pack Garlic Baguettes - £1
30 Large Profiteroles - £2

Well, I stopped smoking when the doctor told me that I'd be dead at 60 if I carried on the way I was going. The ban on smoking in pubs helped too as I had to go and stand on the freezing cold without my mates if I wanted to smoke. For me, some tough words - telling it as it is - made me change my behaviour.

How mahy girls I wonder? Complete carb-fest!

Does anyone else think that if women didn't spend so much time bitching about other women's weight or worrying about their own weight or loathing themselves because they're too fat (whether they are really or not) then we might get round to running the world?

I have boobs, hips & bum & a defined waste. Everything is in proportion - but I'm a size 18-20. I am by definition "curvy" - I'm also obese. But I am certainly curvy in an hourglass way - just it's a big hourglass.

Surely you will agree that I can clearly & accurately be called curvy. However someone who is same weight & size as me but perhaps more of an apple/barrel shape (ie without the defined boob/waist/hip shape) is fat? So maybe you're just 'shapeist' not 'fatist'?

Anyway give it up OP - the word curvy has been claimed & taken over by plus sized women. Just google CURVY, and remember English is a living language. There's no going back now!

Maybe if we stopped wasting so much time and energy hating/judging ourselves/other folk due to their size or shape, we could eat for fuel and pleasure (ie like people used to!) and there would be fewer people at unhealthy extremes. I really wish that we could all stop with the body angst and I feel so sad when I think of little children worrying about the way they look, and thinking that conforming to narrow physical perameters is the most important thing in life.

Jesus Christ Lady Biscuit that sounds awful doesn't it! reminds me of their xmas ad campaigns, everything is yellow and either fried or pastry based. But so so cheap, is it an wonder people buy into it.

Their whole website is like that - even having kids over for tea is a load of crap (oh sorry, frozen peas get thrown in).

Their Xmas ads make me feel nauseous - I should put them on a loop every time I'm tempted to have a mince pie

ooh i do love a mince pie
just not deep fried prawn parcels, fish fingers, mini pizzas, vol-au-vents, spring rolls and £1 mini quiches beforehand!

You do touch on a really good point about how cheap junk food is in comparison to healthier options...or the perceived cheapness of it at least.

Also coraltoes (and this is sort of linked to the US point) - I have really teeny plastic bowls for my DS (who is 3) but when I gave him a Thomas the Tank Engine easter egg the plastic bowl it came with was massive - easily big enough for an adult sized portion. Now surely no child over about 5 is going to be interested in TTTE so it struck me that maybe some people fill those bowls up? And that if you're being overfed from the outset, you're going to carry on like that for life.

Also everyone I know who has serious weight issues has had a mother who has been locked in a cycle of binge-eating/dieting. Every single one. We have a real responsibility not to pass that on.

Sorry, got all serious. Agree that deep fried prawn parcels are revolting!

I have no idea if YABU. However, you are being unreasonable to be watching this morning at all! get a life!

Ladybiscuit, you're totally right about the overfeeding of kids. I have a morbidly obese cousin, it all started whe she was a baby! Her mum would not only breastfeed her but then give her a yoghurt or ore often a creme caramel pudding thing afterwards (i guess she was about 5 monts) so she had had enough milk to be full but then was given quite sugary desserts. As she grew so did her appetite, and throughout childhood she overeat, with her parents happy to give in to her demands, totally oblivious that they had programmed her brain to always want more than it needed! aged 6 she would eat as much as me in my teens. She has since been diagnosed as having a hypothalamus gland that just cant tell when she is full, and all because of eating patterns as a child! Both hre parents are overweight, and total veg-dodgers so it didnt help her at all

She is now 24, was bullied at school for her weight, dropped out with no qualifications and works doing the washing up at restaurants. It saddens me so much to see such a wasted childhood! It does seem to be connected to the generation of convenience food though, where suddenly everything we want is now, tasty, and quick. The families who cook weekly meals and eat together are diminishing, and with it, the awareness of what young people are consuming! My mother knew every single thing I ate (ok maybe not the odd crisp packet!)because every meal was eaten at the dining table with her and my dad. School meals excl. of course!