To be shocked at the swimwear section on this morning today??

[mosschops30]

John Scott was back because he likes dressing 'curvy' ladeez!

They had people on who are doing some sort of pageant, talking about how they were bullied for their weight issues in school and how this is giving them confidence.

He showed swimsuits that 'take 10lbs of you' swimsuits that 'go up to a size 32' and ways to drape a sarong to show off your 'curves'

AIBU in thinking that theres a difference in being curvy and being clinially obese?????
Yes its fine to not be a size 8, yes its fine to enjoy your food, yes its fine to wear swimwear whatever age or size you are ....... but calling these ladies 'curvy' One of them was clearly clinically obese, and he was celebrating the fact that these women could wear swimwear and embrace their bodies.

Sorry but you can embrace your body as much as you like, but being that weight is not healthy, its just as bad as putting super skinny size 0 models on there are saying how great they look in swimwear

Of course you can be a curvy size 6-8. A size 6-8 with an hourglass figure would be curvy.

Perhaps it should have been entitled 'Fashion for fatties?" Even larger ladies deserve to feel good don't they?

In my slim days I was 34,22,34...so quite curvy!

They don't need to be sheltered from it mosschops30 - they just don't need to be told. They know.

Humiliating them and calling them huge fat whales is not going to result in a lightbulb moment you know.

And perhaps if you weren't prepared to be disagreed with, you shouldn't have put this in AIBU?

I have no problem ( as somone who is a size 16) with being labelled fat or obese. I am not sheltered from it which is why I am losing weight.

I just don't think a short swimsuit piece on a day time TV programme is the time.

I always think in the meeeja "curvy" is when they want to say "fat"

It seems it is one rule for the larger ladies and another for the slimmer on here. So many of you defending (and rightly so) the larger person's right to be called curvy, but someone comes on, says they are a 6-8 and curvy and gets laughed at?! oh come on! Have you seen the size 6 lady? she may have a tiny waist but fab boobs and a meaty bottom, that makes her curvy. She may have very slim legs and wide hips...

quite hypocritical really.

Exactly, Bunny.

It is simply not healthy to be very overweight and the creeping message that suggests to people that it is OK is just irresponsible.

Greg Critser's book 'Fat Land - How Americans became the fattest people in the world' is an illuminaing read.

Unless you're 12, if you're a size 6, you don't have a meaty bum. It may appear meaty to you but it truly isn't

Curves to me mean that there is a fair amount of flesh covering the bones. You just don't have a very high level of body fat if you're a size 6, ergo you're not curvy.

Clearly curvy means that you're not built like an ironing board to you though.

I think curvy can come in many different sizes. I am at my most curvy at a size 12/14.

Does anyone really think it is good to be overweight?

OP, have a but beware, if you start comfort eating you might one day need one f those swimsuit for clinically-obese-horrible-flabby-ladies-who-need-to-be-told-every-two-second-they-are-fat-because-de sspite-struggling-everyday-to-find-clothes-that-fit-do-not-yet-realise-they-are-overweight

I agree with Coraltoes though.

I don't get why there's a fuss you know, I really don't.

Why all the hate for fat people?

Why are fat people so offensive to others?

Why are fat people made out to be such henious beings?

Some people are fat, some people are thin and that's it. The sooner the ridiculous idea of visual perfection disappears up it's own arse the better.

Exactly ProfessorLayton, I go in and out, an hourglass, I have boobs. I am a shortie though, I think that makes a difference. I am a healthy weight.

I was more obsessed with my weight when I was bigger tbh. It is all self delusion, this 'curvy' and 'real women' stuff when it's applied to people who are unhealthily overweight. The doctor who engaged in a bit of plain talking and told me I was obese certainly toed me up the arse and made me start to see what I was doing to myself.

Lady, you're wrong. When I was a six and at times a four, I still didn't have stick thin arms and legs...teeny waist and no fat on my hips but a perfectly round bottom and definite shape. Most clothes in a size six still had to be pulled in at the waist because I had a good figure.

ladybiscuit, sorry but that's not what i was saying.
curves do not need to = fat. they just mean you have an hourglass shape. I am a size 8/10. I have a tiny waist but in comparison my chest and bottom are large...a typical latina body. Iam curvy without having much body fat, in a tight long dress i have very obvious curves. I can easily see how someone 1 dress size down from me would be the same. You do realise body shape is what determines the curves and not necessarily fat, right?

Look at Eva Longoria. Teeeeny dress size but definitely curvy!

I don't think it's good to be overweight, no. I don't think that This Morning doing a feature on swimsuits for fat women is remotely shocking though. We are a fat nation as a whole and pretending those people aren't there isn't going to change things. It's a hell of a lot more complex than that. The fact that it's a lot cheaper to feed your family with crap from Iceland than to give them healthy meals, the fact that cooking is no longer taught in schools so we have a nation where a lot of people simply don't have the skills to cook for themselves, the fact that we model ourselves as the US's sister are all contributory factors.

A feature on swimsuits is a side issue

I'd consider that hourglass rather than curvy personally but I think we're getting into semantics here

lots of fat people, live perfectly healthy lives, lots of thin people get sick. this obsession with the 'health' aspect is just a way to justify bigotry.

I live a very healthy lifestyle as my username suggests. However a few stone lighter and I would be even healthier.

Agree with much of that LadyBiscuit. However, it's a myth that it's cheaper to feed a family on crap from Iceland than to cook basic healthy food. It's just the lazy option.

Tonight we're having jacket spuds (6 for 69p) with cheese, ham and a bit of salad. Decent meal for 3 people for less than two quid.

Well maybe you're right....I'll take hourglass!! (swapped it for slightly tubby with a section fold now though, so jealous???)

It was a piece about swimwear for people who ARE fat! Not a health thing a fashion report No matter what size you are you still need a cozzie same as we all need knickers t shirts etc.Mosschops your post at 12.30 was not really a lesson in honesty more rudeness.

You can be an hourglass figure at any size. See my Eva Longoria example and Nigella Lawson. Both hourglass...

Regardless i don't see why it is fair game to pounce on a slim person for calling themslves curvy but suddenly all the defences come up for the overweight appropriating the term. It just feels like a lot of people are naturally very sensitive about their weight and aren't detatching that from what the OP was trying to say. as far as I understood the issue is in dressing up what is essentially the problem (i dont mean in swimsuits, i mean in pretending there isnt an issue)...Who was it that came out recently and said we should stop using the terms obese etc and stick to fat to make people wake up to their reality (was it a health minister) because otherwise people hide behind the medical term and dont face the reality. Not sure i agree but it is an interesting theory.

Cereal Offender, you're right, many overweight people do lead healthy lives. However that is not the case for the obese...obesity puts strains on your body that a couple of extra lbs doesn't. You cannot deny it would be healthier for them to reduce the weight they carry surely.

Nigella Lawson is by no stretch of the imagination the same body type as Eva Longoria

they both have hourglass shapes, just at different body sizes!