To just fucking give up with my devil toddler

[monkeyfacegrace]

She is 3.

Total meltdown because her fork was the wrong size to eat her pasta with

Hysterical because their was a leaf on the strawberry on the picture on the side of her yoghurt

Wont sit at the table because she wants to sit on the sofa.

Devestated because Mr Maker isnt on, and she does not want to do anything else.

So fuck it. Im on my laptop. She has a bottle, yes a bottle of lemonade. No added sugar at that.

As you were.

collieecross, I second that. i did it with the slapping thing and it stopped straight away.

This thread has made me feel like I am in good company.

monkeyfacegrace... the nicer you are and the more attention you give them the more they want.
little s**ts treasures.

Is it too early to open a bottle of rose. Just one small glass, promise

She's tired. Let her have a couple of hours in front of the TV.

No added sugar means she won't have an energy boost to fuss about anything else. I think.

Lynette that made me laugh, people say to me 'ahh bless, she's tired' when my DD is being horrid. I just tell them she is not tired, she is evil.

She has no control over this at all, you just have to make life easier for you by giving her the illusion that it's her choice.

"Do you want lunch?"
"Yes"
"Sit at the table then..."
"No, sofa"
"Table or no food"

Conversation ends.

I wouldn't negotiate either on some things.

I feel your pain. My DD is 4 in a few weeks. Recently I have seen glimmers of hope of a bright new tantrum-free (or at least reduced) future.

She played in her room nicely for THIRTY minutes the other day. She ate all her dinner last night. She didn't make herself sick from excessive crying when I brushed her hair..... There is light at the end of the tunnel, I'm sure of it!

Of course, the rest of the weekend she was a total bloody nightmare, but I'm grateful for small mercies

Good luck!

They'll all be lovely teenagers

But then she says no food! She will go all day with nothing I swear. Then I feel shit that she is starving her little body so Im back to square one.
And, if Ive spent ages cooking a meal, I get more pissed off if its wasted.

So, she sits at table. Then cushion is wrong. Fork is wrong. Colour of the fucking pasta is wrong. Peas are 'dirty'. I want juice. Not that cup, this one.
Im full up now. DONT TAKE MY DINNER AWAY AHHHH.
She gets down.
Climbs things, breaks things, whinges she wants me to play/bake/do playdough. I get it out for her. It gets ground into carpet/table/little brothers ears/dogs eat it, 10 mins later bored.
Throw them in the garden to play. Push brother off slide. Cry cuz trampoline is too bouncy Cry because she wants to get off tramploine. Crys because she wants to get back on.
Comes in, refuses to take shoes off. I take shoes off. Meltdown that I ignore.
Bottle of lemonade in front of Sky+ Mr Maker.
Peace.
Little bro (18months) looks as if to say, wow can I act like that one day mummy.

Not only is she tired, you are tired!

Mr Maker wasn't created to give us great ideas for crafts to do with our DC..it's to keep them qu9ite when we are shattered.

Ha ha - that all sounds soooooooo familiar.

Three year olds just take irrational and contrary to a whole new Olympic-stylee level.

posieparker if I had that conversation with my 5 year old DD and it ended there I would keel over and die!

Try offering choices so that she feels in control.eg do you want to wash with the pink soap or the blue soap?
Do you want your pasta in the red bowl or the white bowl? Then say good choice!

Don't offer a choice you don't want her to make, such has Do you want this dinner or not?
Don't look at how much she has eaten, don't comment on it. Try to bin it without apparently noticing.

I always find a ten mile hike quietens them down too

I dont know about choices. I find the more choices she is given the more in control she feels and then just takes the piss..

i.e. do you want to wear this skirt or these trousers? - I want to wear my sleeping beauty outfit.

i.e. do you want the blue bowl or the red bowl? - I want the bowl that you are using.. actually no, I want the bowl in the sink.. actually no I will have the blue one you said first.... NO MUMMY I SAID RED ONE THE RED ONE THE RED ONE WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

total sympathy from me too 3 has got to be the worst age in many ways. They seem to know they can actually disagree with us, which isn't much fun. I currently have ds who's 3.4 and is generally high maintenance. dd who's 6.2 is less high maintenance and knows not to bother arguing in general, obviously she has her moments

I try to ignore the fuss and not to give too many choices but it's so hard to ignore it after a couple of minutes hours of pure disagreeing my ds does the choosing a biscuit/lolly/tv prog then declares 'I don't like that one' I've got a video of him bawling his eyes out because 'I don't like marmite on toast' but whilst bawling and complaining he's actually eating the toast >

ok foureleven you come and live with us

Can I can I?!

I love the fact that the picture of the strawberry was an issue

My dd is 23 months so I guess I've got all this to come. Already had 2 toothbrushes down the toilet today.. It would be wrong to wash them and let her use it tonight, wouldn't it..

Eurgghh Privet