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The Continuing Support Thread for Anyone Trying to Lead an Alcohol-Free Life Spring 2025

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REP22 · 24/01/2025 16:53

Hello and welcome. I’m glad you’ve found your way here. We are a bunch of people who are trying to give up and keep off alcohol. No judgement, just honest support and kindness.
The original thread was started by @drybird2020 in 2020 and we have plenty of veterans and newer members who can offer advice and signposting. You are welcome here, whether you post several times a day, once or twice and then never again, or if you only just come to read but have no intention of ever posting.
Whatever your stage on the AF journey, and whatever you’re going through, someone here will have gone through it too. Don’t be shy about posting, we love to celebrate your successes of whatever shape and size - and will support you when things get challenging. We get it, we've been there too.
All we ask is that you’re genuinely trying to abstain. We don't encourage moderation-only here, as it can be triggering for some to read. If you’re looking to moderate your drinking rather than quitting it altogether then MN has another long-running and very active moderation/abstaining thread that’s always near the top on the alcohol support board. Lots of fine support there from those worthy people too. Keep trying. Sobriety may not be easy - but I guarantee you that it is worth it.
I started trying to give up drink in 2018, succeeded (mostly) in 2019 but had a few “wobbles”, one of which led me here in April 2023. I still struggle sometimes but the posters on this thread have been an absolute godsend of wisdom, support and encouragement, along with my dog - known here as Sid (not his real name), and they keep me going. I hope you find strength and comfort here too. This thread and its wonderful posters has been a lifesaver to many, and have certainly seen me through many good and not-so-good days.
These books were particularly helpful to me and I still go back to them from time to time: The Sober Diaries by Clare Pooley (Amazon - Sober Diaries) and The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober by Catherine Gray (Amazon - Unexpected Joy). Others have found This Naked Mind by Annie Grace (Amazon - This Naked Mind) helpful. There are Apps that help track your AF journey, including Reframe and the one I use, I Am Sober. Podcasts can also be helpful. I have found One for the Road by Sober Dave to be a good listen. But different things work for different people. Feel free to post and ask. There is solidarity, wisdom and support here. This is a safe space where your voice will be heard, understood and valued.

Warmer weather is coming. Keep an eye out for that first daffodil waving in the breeze, and make yourself at home. It's going to be alright. x

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taylorean · 02/02/2025 11:20

I have been sleeping so much - it feels like I'm processing years of accumulated disrupted sleep!

It's lovely to hear the birds sing and see the start of spring. I'll be in the park this afternoon and looking forward to it!

Another evening of positive activity to look forward to, as well as the start of the week tomorrow with a clear head. The mornings are worth it all.

WendyWagon · 02/02/2025 11:22

Congratulations @EastCoastDamsel .
Fabulous result.

@mermadeincornwall the DH is in charge of the Vax, I am not allowed!
I went back to bed and the dog and I had another sleep. Hoorah.

Wintershealing · 02/02/2025 11:27

Morning, so last night I went to a party where the hosts had bought loads of booze and had set up a help yourself table. So I indulged in the gin but felt so shit about myself because I hate drinking but I can't stop. I told someone for the first time, "I'm an alcoholic." 😔

It's been 12 years! Before that, I rarely drank. It started when I was 28, I always looked really young for my age and had alsorts of patronising comments in my 20s. One day, this woman asked, "Do you get funny looks when you walk down the street with your kids?" Odd comment, but it triggered something in me to prove in my mind that people didn't think I was a child, so I started buying wine and if I wasn't asked for ID I'd be happy. It started with a glass or two on a Friday/Saturday evening, then crept into Thursday evening. I'd be happy that the Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday drudgery was done so I could drink on Thursday. Then one evening at a meal I tried Bombay Saphire for the first time and my love for gin began!

I got divorced (not because of drinking) and got into relationships with people who drank. My ex-husband rarely drinks, so I felt relieved I could drink and get drunk with a partner, and over the years, I've done some really stupid, sometimes dangerous stuff, due to drink. It didn't help that the drinking culture "wine o'clock/gin time" was so accepted by society. I've been single for 3 years now and sit alone drinking after work.

My teen dd hated me drinking wine and the stupid things I'd do, so I stopped drinking that last year. Wine used to be annoying because one bottle wouldn't touch the sides, so it'd be 2 bottles, then sometimes I'd go for the 3rd, which is where I'd be very drunk/wobbly/slurred speech. So I replaced the wine with gin... and I'd hide it.

I'm now at the stage where I'm hiding bottles and hiding drinking. My dd spends time at her dad's, and I often think it's easier because I can leave the bottle on the side in the evening rather than sneaking it. I'm a bloody disgrace, and I've got to proper alcoholic stage.

I saw a therapist about 6 years ago, and she told me off with a big speech about how my body will not sustain it in the long run, etc. I cried when I walked out in fear, didn't drink for a week, but then just hid it from her.

I've tried Annie Grace The Naked Mind, Podcasts, cold turkey (the longest was 7 weeks), counselling, etc. My mum just judges anyone drinking and isn't helpful, my sister and I aren't speaking (long standing on/off relationship) and my dd and ex husband aren't drinkers, so if I ever admitted I had a problem they'd just make comments which would make me want to hide it.

WendyWagon · 02/02/2025 11:47

@Wintershealing welcome.
Can I ask why you want to stop drinking?
I'm three years sober and I drank 5 days out of seven.

Wintershealing · 02/02/2025 11:52

WendyWagon · 02/02/2025 11:47

@Wintershealing welcome.
Can I ask why you want to stop drinking?
I'm three years sober and I drank 5 days out of seven.

Because I hate it, it makes me feel shit and feels so out of control.

taylorean · 02/02/2025 12:18

@Wintershealing Just sending love. Things can be better than this - you won't always feel as bad as you do right now xxx

WendyWagon · 02/02/2025 12:34

@Wintershealing its not a great feeling really is it?
So I'd take it one day at a time, today then 7 days, then a month. It takes ten days for alcohol to leave you body completely.
Concentrate on today. Get some treats in, sweets or posh fruit and it is advised to take Bvits.
I never thought I could go a day without the booze. I cried a lot but I wouldn't go back. It took over my life.
Rep our captain will be along later to offer some reading thoughts.
Good luck, you can do it x

Arrietty58 · 02/02/2025 12:47

@Wintershealing its horrible to be in the grip of it, try just not drinking today, if you have gin or anything in the house just pour it down the sink, get the recycling bottles out of the house. Try to distract yourself. Sending you all the luck for today.

IChooseTo · 02/02/2025 14:02

Sorry about the reaction you received @ThatWasShh for your brave decision, and well done on handling it so well. In the past I have been "drink shamed" and "fat shamed" by members of DPs family, which did hurt. And one of my own family called me a w*nker for deciding to give up drink forever! A "friend" also told me I was boring for doing dry January in the past but I don't see her anymore. I don't miss her but I hope she's OK. In future, I shall try to remember your words, and the words of our other wise and kind sober sisters. We have so more support on here- it helps so much- thank you all.

IChooseTo · 02/02/2025 14:09

Sorry, missed a whole load of posts there. Welcome @Wintershealing I'm new on here, but it is an amazingly wonderful supportive group with so much help and advice. I haven't got any experience in giving advice, but you do have my love and support, and respect to you for making the first steps x

Wintershealing · 02/02/2025 15:27

Thanks everyone. I've done loads of first attempts, I can usually go a week with the determination but then fall off the wagon. Triggers are stress at work normally!

Middlemarch123 · 02/02/2025 18:25

Evening everyone, hope you’re all ok.
@Adsy1988 Have you read The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins? It’s on Audible, and really good. Basically about recognising what you can control, and what you can’t. Lots of useful advice about learning to not care what others think, building confidence and resilience. I learned a lot from it.

@Wintershealing You can do this lovely, one day at a time as our wise Wendy says. Forgot about tomorrow, just say I won’t drink today. Tomorrow I’ll drink the house dry, but today I won’t. Then get up the next day and say it again. Here’s the deal, you can have all the drinks but not the first. That’s how I approach each day.
Have you tried the Gordens 0% gin? Nice with a good tonic. Trip CBD drinks can give you a bit of a nice buzz. I use CBD drops and add them to normal drinks, they take the edge off cravings for me.

we can do this everyone, some times our sober ship hits choppy waters, but like our lovely captain says, it will be okay.

Mind how you go.
X

mermadeincornwall · 03/02/2025 06:55

Morning fellow crewmates ,captain @REP22, and hamson cabin boy/ships mascot Sid
I will not drink today
Love and kind thoughts to all
We've got this
We've got each other

mermadeincornwall · 03/02/2025 07:42

I've been catching up with all the posts from the weekend
@ShyMaryEllen I love a good clear out and decorating, I can't afford to update my house (more shabby shit than shabby chic)but I can clear, clean and paint, which keeps me busy and my mind occupied,hope to get out in the garden soon.

mermadeincornwall · 03/02/2025 07:49

@Newmum738 good god I feel so relieved that that's not me puking up in the toilet, let alone cleaning it up.
When I start to question the decision, I tell myself not to, and think of 3 times in the past that make me wince whilst under the influence, one of them is sleeping in the bathroom next to the toilet with my duvet. I never, ever, want to go back to those days.

mermadeincornwall · 03/02/2025 07:57

Thanks for the recommendation @ThatWasShh for the book,The Let Them Theory you gave to @Adsy1988 ,I shall get it. I need to find a way to control the rage within me, drinking fuels all the negative emotions so I'm hoping that'll help.
I hope you're ok @Adsy1988 ,been thinking about you, pouring your energies into positive thoughts is hard but so worth it, 🕯 sending a smelly candle for you.

Arrietty58 · 03/02/2025 08:23

Morning everyone, day 6 for me. Did consider a glass late last night after returning kid to uni, ‘as a reward’ after a busy family day. Opened some AF sparkling, fancy glass and that did the trick. I don’t have my favourite drink in the house, don’t trust myself. Feel really well. So grateful to have gotten this far. If I think in terms of a month I get a bit anxious so I am sticking to I will not drink today like @mermadeincornwall . I think the weekends are harder, hope everyone got through it ok.

WendyWagon · 03/02/2025 08:42

Morning all.
Not a well Wendy here. Terrible last night but I refused A and E as I was on a trolly last month for 27 hours. The boys wanted to pack me off but I was staying put with the dog. I managed an old farts rice pudding.
One Yorkshire gold down this morning.
I think Mumof4 was due an operation? So thinking of you. I hope all is well.

I lost two friends when I gave up the drink. One I caught lying to me (sober enough to notice) and the other had been taking advantage of me. Both last to the bar. I don't miss them, they both came along after my father died and I thought they had my back. My old friends have been more helpful.

FaithHopeCarnage · 03/02/2025 09:01

Morning all - Happy Monday! Bit gloomy here in Devon, but blue skies and sunshine are peeking through. I’m sure that’s a metaphor for something… @Wintershealing I’ve been thinking about your post and hope you’re feeling better today. I’ve been where you are, and it sucks. Firstly, you are not a disgrace - please don’t think that ever. If for no other reason, low self esteem and self worth will drive you back to the gin. Secondly, your therapist instilling fear into you is totally counterproductive and unhelpful. A lot of people - addicts and otherwise - drink to remove negative emotions. Feeling fearful would turn me back to the bottle faster than anything, despite my logical reasoning. There wasn’t much logic in my drinking! It’s great that you can get to 7 days AF. I wonder what happens after that? To share my experience, not to turn this about me, in the end I was drinking purely to remove the physical hangovers/withdrawals. Whilst hating myself for doing it - the thing that made me feel better was the very thing that made me feel that way in the first place. Looking back, I can see the problem was I didn’t actually want to stop drinking. I wanted the bad feelings and pain to go away, so to achieve that I would stop, then after a few days feeling better, pick up the wine again as my motivation - the pain - had gone. I think I was labouring under the illusion that having stopped I had ‘reset’ and could return to drinking, I just wouldn’t drink so much/so often. This was my insanity. I picked up exactly where I had left off and got worse. Every time. This lasted for years, beating myself up and drinking more. Could you look at your motivation for stopping, beyond the immediate low feelings caused by hangovers? I have finally accepted that I can not drink. Period. Or if I do, I know exactly where it will take me. I can no more drink sensibly than I can have longer legs.
This is not meant to be doom-laden. I have, for the time being, turned things around. But it’s taken a hell of a long time to reach this place. If in the cold, sober light of day you decide that you don’t want to stop drinking - then that’s ok. Perhaps write a list of what alcohol gives you and what it takes away. Only you can decide what you want and if you do want to stop, maybe you need some support. There are statutory services that can help and there’s no shame in reaching out - and you should feel proud of yourself for doing so. As I’ve read on here, there is no one size fits all approach. I’ve tried many things, many times. So there’s always hope. I wish you well. I wish all of us well - it’s not easy, nothing worthwhile ever is. But at least we’re all here together.

FaithHopeCarnage · 03/02/2025 09:03

Oh @WendyWagon sorry to hear you’ve had a rough night. I hope the Yorkshire Gold does the trick x

SmellyMe · 03/02/2025 09:58

@Wintershealing I felt this way for a long time before I gave up. I knew I needed to stop but couldn’t get into the frame of mind where it was possible. I was literally crying at my husband on a weekly basis that I needed to stop and I was begging for help. He kept telling me to moderate which I absolutely can’t do. When I start, I don’t want to stop. If he was away on business or working late, I would just drink until I passed out. I just kept giving into my cravings.

I found GPs pretty hopeless. I felt it took a lot for me to be honest about how much I was actually drinking and when I did pluck up the courage a couple of years ago, one said “my goodness, that’s a lot. That’s the equivalent of x Greggs doughnuts.” Obviously, I wouldn’t sit and eat x number of doughnuts back to back because I’m not addicted to fckn doughnuts!! I thought it was awfully insensitive and poorly judged. The message was ‘stop’ or ‘cut down’ but no actual practical advice on how to do that.

At a later appointment with a different GP, she read my notes and asked how things were with drinking. I said I really wanted it, it was a craving. It wasn’t a casual thing. She had no advice. I was actually quite depressed then ( a symptom of long covid I think) and she prescribed anti depressants and left it at that. I read the patient information leaflet before I took them and a really common side effect was anxiety so I thought ‘bugger that, I don’t need heightened anxiety’. Thankfully, I was ok within a few months mentally but still drinking like a fish.

Whats finally brought me to the point of stopping is having a plan to change all the things that make my life miserable. Firstly, I read some quit lit, namely Sober Mama which is quite an extreme problem she had but good for illustrating why you need to stop and also practical tips on just what you are going to face. It can take 3 months for your brain to make its own dopamine again so initial target is the been dry January (starting 05/01) and then 100 days from there ans then so on. I’ve also been reading Claire Pooley’s original blog, mummy is a secret drinker. I’ve found it helpful to have a blow by blow account.

secondly, a major factor for me is getting a new job. I’ve been miserable in my job for a long time but just put up with my horrid boss and boring job because it was convenient with good money. Well, I got a new one and because I decided to go back to full time after years of part time, I knew I couldn’t function on the little energy I had left. I couldn’t drink 5 nights a week and perform well in my new job.

next on the list is buying a new house and moving somewhere that is better for the whole family. My husband is currently kicking and screaming about this despite knowing that it’s the right and practical thing to do. I gave up my 20-a-day smoking habit during the height of my university exams and survived so I know I can get through stressful situations without a crutch if I absolutely must.

My triggers for drinking are a stressful day at work, annoying children, annoying husband and being too tired to deal with all of the above. The first 2 weeks are probably the hardest but I find I’m trying to find distractions when j feel the urge. Having to be some where. Having to make something. I want to learn to knit. I had a rubbishy attempt at learning crochet a while back so I’m doing that again.

also, diet is looming in my mind. I’ve put my fatness to one side whilst I get through this period and feel more energised. My sleep hasn’t improved really so I’m indulging in chocolate and whatever else takes my fancy. I’m not gaining weight but I’m not seeing it drop off either.

I have joined a gym. I am only committing to one day a week so that it’s achievable and not an inconvenience. Couch to 5k is also a good course I would recommend. I’ve done it twice and fallen off the running wagon but it’s always something you can go back to and you know you’re improving your health just by trying.

I thought I might be able to try dieting in February. Oh no, this morning I ate my breakfast and my lunch in the car on the way to work. But I am on day 30 of having no booze and that’s something to be proud of.

think in small steps like the others have said. The big first one is stopping. Then it’s a series of smaller ones. I’m trying not to indulge in expectations that I will feel radically different because it’s a long slow climb (for me at least).

Good luck; you will get there.

WendyWagon · 03/02/2025 10:46

@SmellyMe thank you for your post and insight.
When people say moderate they don't understand the addictive situation dependant drinkers are in.
It some point we cross the line from a nice party to rolling drunk. I'm not quite sure when that happened to me. 2017 after my father died started the last stretch. I remember buying a bottle of wine on a Friday for decades. No other drinking. I drove 200 miles daily so no hangover tolerated.
Grief for me is a trigger. I had a 18 month bender after my mum died but we moved away and I broke the habit.
I've always buried my problems but you know I don't anymore.
I'm facing a really sh*t time but I have a sense of calm I've never had.
We can't change the past but we can plan our future. I have plan A and B.
I feel very proud when people ask me re drinking and smoking. When you're ill medics do like to suck a lemon. They can't do this with me as my illness isn't lifestyle induced. However one nurse told me stress is a big factor. Bollocks to that, I've been stressed all my life!

We learn by taking on day at a time. Each sober morning is a gift. Don't waste it. Booze is just rotting fruit and water. And it has no nutritional value regardless of what the French say!

taylorean · 03/02/2025 10:49

I enjoyed doing the school run with a clear head, more energy and feeling like I'd had a full night's sleep.

I hadn't realised how much I was calorie-counting before, because I was planning on having wine in the evening. Now, I can have a chocolate croissant for breakfast without feeling so guilty.

The hardest bit is realising 'not ever', though that's clarifying as well. Otherwise, every evening involved wrestling with my self-control, and after a bad day, I usually lost.

APineCone · 03/02/2025 10:55

Some incredible posts on here this morning. Thank you so much everyone for your brutal honesty.

I'm on Day 3 after a slight 'delay' in getting started after joining the thread last week. Today will be Day 4!

Booze is just rotting fruit and water. And it has no nutritional value regardless of what the French say!

I love this @WendyWagon and I may have to write it in my diary!

Womanshour · 03/02/2025 11:43

@WendyWagon poor you. I'm so sorry you've been having such a rubbish health time. I hope you have some positive help today.

@SmellyMe we are living weirdly parallel lives... same day stopped. I'm also trying to move and changing jobs as I 'need to sort the triggers'.

I hate our house... (actually our neighbours) it's too outing to go into but they've made our lives harder than they need to be. Other locals ask me about them... which doesn't help the ease of selling. My work is a stress trigger, and gets in the way of me developing a better life as I work silly hours (I need the wine cosh knockout to sleep).

Have you changed job yet?

Day 30. Still having a daily battled tbh. My brain hasn't fully consented yet that i am a shit drinker. I wish the booze would just let me go. Out for lunch with family yesterday I was the only non drinker. It was fine... I missed the idea of it and the first couple, but not the horrid sleep and Monday morning dreadful feeling as i obviously wouldn't have stopped at lunch. Anyway... one day at a time x

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