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New April continuing thread for living an alcohol free life - all welcome

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livingalivelife · 16/04/2024 11:22

Hello! This is the continuation of a thread started originally by drybird, and subsequently continued by many fabulous and now sober mumsnetters. It's provides huge amounts of non-judgmental support, cameraderie and good humour to anyone venturing on an alcohol free life.

I've been on the thread several times, lapsed and been welcomed back, which I have hugely appreciated. This time I am determined to stay AF and I'm now on day 44. There is so much experience here on offer - how to get through that first sober Friday night, family party, night out, festive celebration, work do etc etc. And also loads of info on great resources to help in the AF journey - podcasts, books, websites, different kinds of support groups and counselling, or going it alone - the emphasis is on whatever works for you.

This is a thread for those who are living alcohol free, and if you're looking to cut down (lucky you if you're one of those people can have one glass of wine and not think - what's the point of that?), there are other great threads elsewhere in the alcohol topic for moderate drinking.

Looking forward to more clearheaded, shamefree mornings and sober adventures ahead ...

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ponzusoup · 20/06/2024 07:50

and i dreamed last night that i accidentally drank someone's pint in a pub garden!

well done to all of us. this is a rollercoaster. we are all fabulous.

Onewildandpreciouslife · 20/06/2024 07:50

It’s entirely possible it’s just me! I’ve been to see Bill Bailey twice sober now (to be fair this is DH’s choice of comic) and it was meh both times (particularly after the interval). I live in hope that other live comedy will be better!

ponzusoup · 20/06/2024 07:51

@EastCoastDamsel my favourite joke is actually about my kids but i suppose i don't tell it on stage ... 😱

Itsrainingten · 20/06/2024 07:55

@ponzusoup AF beer by the pool? That's what I'm thinking. I hope they have AF alternatives at an all-inclusive resort. It's in Turkey. Do you think they will?

ponzusoup · 20/06/2024 08:00

good idea in theory @Itsrainingten if we can get our hands on it ... i'm not all inclusive so would need to see if supermarkets do it. we aren't hiring a car so will be local shops too. we're in menorca

EastCoastDamsel · 20/06/2024 08:00

@ponzusoup I told DH my thoughts on this when coming home and he said I was being ridiculous, they were just joking.

I suppose I am quite sensitive to DC jokes as DS has very low self-esteem (and I always felt inadequate in my DM and DF's eyes) so can't take a joke myself very well.

Before the show we stopped at a friend's house to hang out and it was lovely sitting out in the evening sun (despite the STILL chilly breeze) and I drank my first AF beers (Moretti O%) and they were really lovely.

I have been a bit nervous of non-alcoholic booze but they certainly didn't "trigger" me so that was a win.

ponzusoup · 20/06/2024 08:21

well done @EastCoastDamsel i felt the same about AF beer but actually find them a help rather than a hinder. when i had 2 pub nights last weekend as part of a reunion thing i drank pints of lucky saint (2) which were delicious and just tricked me along with the jolly atmosphere that i was drinking just the same as everyone else. no bother.

apols also i don't mean to undermine your sensitivity to jokes about kids. a genuine sorry xx

EastCoastDamsel · 20/06/2024 08:38

Aw, nothing to apologise for @ponzusoup . One thing I have learnt about living in the UK, is that although I speak the same language the humour here is different. So things do get "lost in translation" for me.

WendyWagon · 20/06/2024 08:52

Morning all.

I'm not a beer drinker but I had a smashed lager and it tasted like the real McCoy to me.
The DH and I did a few boxes yesterday and things are getting sorted. I am doing a bit each day. Nothing got done whilst I was so ill.

I haven't seen a live show for years. I wrote a piece for Edinburgh a few years ago. However it would make a good book so perhaps I'll get around to that.

Claire Pooley was featured in Woman and Home this month as was Fern Britten. Fern was a boozer, which I didn't know. She looks fab atm.

Womanshour · 20/06/2024 09:26

I didn't know that about Fern either @WendyWagon. I'll have a look for the article clare pooleys book was so important to me in those first weeks.

I have a first sober festival this summer. Not sure how to feel about it tbh. I've set expectations for those going that I'll be sober. I think I'm worried I won't be able to sleep and will feel too tired to keep up... I guess I need to make sure my bed is comfy!!

X

livingalivelife · 20/06/2024 09:33

Morning
Thankyou for all the great advice about the dinner. Not sure I'm going to make it tho - got covid! Not too bad at all but generally grotty. Still, a lot easier to be sober.
I'm lying low for a bit - the thread is busy and so many new faces which is fab.

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Anotherdaydone · 20/06/2024 12:59

I have had some very unsettling dreams involving my ex husband. Hope they stop soon

REP22 · 20/06/2024 15:08

@Anotherdaydone sorry about the dreams. That must be really upsetting. It's hard not to see what our inner mind sees. They might not stop altogether, but I hope they ease off and give you some peace.💐

@WendyWagon and @Womanshour I didn't know about FB either, that's interesting. Also about the Clare Pooley article; her book was such a help to me, along with those by Catherine Grey - her second, Sunshine Warm Sober, incidentally devotes a whole chapter to attending a festival whilst in her drinking days as compared to attending a festival now sober. Illuminating reading (including about putting up with the state of festival "toilets" drunk VS sober).

I understand your feelings and apprehension and dread. But think about how many treasured memories will be yours to keep forever from that festival as opposed to half-remembered glimpses and possible mortifications. (I know of someone who, along with her friend, were forcibly ejected from one of the side-tents at a well-known festival for being loud, inappropriate and drunk. It was a children's craft tent, where their own 5 and 6 years-olds were making masks for a festival procession. One of the sadder aspects was that the person who related this, one of the mums, thought it was hilarious).

I'm sure there'll be loads of people also not drinking that you can have fun with and get an even better night's sleep (and - more importantly - enjoy the bright early morning atmosphere while others around you whimper and dribble (from either end; possibly both) into their shiny new Mountain Warehouse sleeping bags.🌞

@livingalivelife So sorry about the Covid - LOADS of it about at the moment. Hope you mend well soon. Keep us posted on Friday if you need to. ❤

And I'm wondering if one of the reasons Clare Pooley was in Woman & Home magazine is because she's got a new novel out this month? If you are looking for some excellent summer reading, I can heartily recommend her first two - "The Authenticity Project" and "The People on Platform 5". Both brilliant (especially the second). Apologies - I know this isn't really the space for such things and there is a small vested interest (friends of family). But, in justification, I will only echo @Womanshour and say that her Sober Diaries book helped me so much - it got me through the earliest and most grim of times - and is a continuing source of strength and encouragement still. Even when I royally f---up like I did last weekend.

I've only got three days of antibiotics left. The lump has cleared up.... and now there's one on the other side. Oh bosoms (literally). 🤬 I must've done something awful in a previous life to have earned this karma - stamping on kittens for Fagin or burning children as witches for Matthew Hopkins perhaps. BUT - I am sober today and I have the dog and that is a very good place indeed to be. 🙂

Strength and love to all. Keep going - you can do it. x

NextPhaseOfLife · 20/06/2024 18:20

@Anotherdaydone sorry to hear about your dreams. Is the break up still affecting you on some level?

NextPhaseOfLife · 20/06/2024 18:23

Hi all - will read through the latest posts and catch up. When I'm on the app I struggle to tag people before my memory lapses - duhhh

I'm not having a very happy time at the moment, I don't think. My early weeks of energy and Mary-Poppins like pinging around have dimmed somewhat.

Work has been very intense - I haven't headed to the bottle but have headed to the crisps, biscuits and bread, which aside from the no-wine, is 'old me' and it's making me miserable.

I went to the races this week. I didn't drink, which was great, but I wasn't able to get into it as much as I usually do.

I think I'm bored of not drinking. Or maybe I'm just boring.

Sorry for the whinge :-(

NextPhaseOfLife · 20/06/2024 20:16

Thank you for that @EastCoastDamsel - wow, maybe that's it - I hadn't heard of it.

I'll do some digging - thank you so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

BigFatSoberLife · 21/06/2024 08:05

Hello

Thanks for that link @EastCoastDamsel. I will have a read of that too.

Checking in - 6 weeks today 🎉

I'm tired and head achey today, but don't think it is lack-of-booze related. Just the pollen I think plus a busy week at work.

Hope everyone is looking forward to the weekend! I most certainly am 😴

EastCoastDamsel · 21/06/2024 08:12

Morning Day 20

I have started stressing about health effects and liver damage. I am due a blood pressure check-up next week Friday and stressing that they will do LFTs and that they will be sky high! (I had them last year and they were totally normal) But my drinking really ramped up in the last 6 months so l...

Also DM is coming over for July and 3 weeks of August. I am close to her but we have suffered a great loss as a family earlier this year and we are actually both suffering, plus we have a complicated relationship as since I was a teenager I have always felt responsible for her emotions. Anyway too much to unpack here now.

Probably should get some therapy.

BigFatSoberLife · 21/06/2024 08:41

Sending the unmumsnetty hugs and support to you @EastCoastDamsel. You have a lot going on! Not to wheel out all the cliches but please do be kind to yourself 💐

WendyWagon · 21/06/2024 09:32

Morning all.

@EastCoastDamsel I think therapy can be useful. I did six months. I'd do it again if I thought I needed it.

Friday so I have the AF tins in.
I managed to go to two shops yesterday so I am feeling chipper. Plus the drive out Tuesday.
I might even go on a trip tomorrow. Garden centre I think.

REP22 · 21/06/2024 12:00

Hello all, good morning.

@NextPhaseOfLife you're not boring! Everyone has a bit of a slump sometimes. I think we just notice it more when we are sober. Things will pick up again. I found that it was a sort of grieving process at times. It feels like a sort of 'bereavement' sometimes. We are mourning the loss of the "fun times" and "harmless" experiences our minds tell us were associated with drink, sorrow that we might not have those "good" times again, sadness that we were betrayed by something we thought we loved and apprehension at what facing the future without it might be. I think it's right to feel down, to acknowledge that loss, and to grieve. A something akin to crying at the funeral of an aunt who was nice to us when we were 10, then realising - looking back - that she was really a bit of a sh-t. But it's OK to grieve and feel sad. Hope you have many happier times to come. 💐

@BigFatSoberLife I feel a bit like that today too. Hayfever is off the scale at the moment. Even the dog is sneezing. He ate something iffy yesterday - last night he could have snuffed out two candles at the same time - one at each end. 💨Didn't dare light a match though - the whole street would've gone up.

@EastCoastDamsel Top stuff on day 20, that's brilliant. I know it's easier said than done, but try not to stress about your health. You're doing the best you can now, today, and can't change the past. You're making positive changes and that will filter into everything else. I have to have an annual 'MOT' health-wise for various things, which can include my former level of alcohol intake. I dread it every year, but it has always been OK. Doesn't stop me getting in a stew about it though. It will be alright. The body, and the liver, is usually pretty resilient. After a period of serious alcohol abuse, it generally takes 6 to 8 weeks for the body's CDT levels* to return to normal. You're already halfway there!

That's a long time to have your mum with you. Have you got contingency plans in case things get difficult? I have severe challenges from my own upbringing - a major factor in my drinking roots - I have to mentally prepare and strategize for any and every "incoming". I have had therapy for this over the years, which has helped enormously in understanding that it is not my fault, there's nothing wrong or embarrassing about me, and there's nothing I can say or do that will change her or her attitude. All that I do have ownership and capital in is how I react/respond to it.

Somewhat interestingly, and it may just be my fevered imagination, the dog seems to have picked up on what's going on. Several times now, he has committed entirely out-of-character acts of petty vandalism in my DM's house, which he has NEVER perpetrated elsewhere, quietly and without fanfare. The worst one involved me having to buy her a new set of pyjamas. Utterly bizarre, nothing before or since and, believe me, there are gussets-aplenty on offer in our own house - never regarded. It's only occurred to me recently that these subtle acts of sabotage have happened after harsh and unkind things were said/done to me (it's been such a constant feature of my life that I barely notice all of them now, though they still pierce deep). I do believe that the dog has clocked what's wrong and doesn't like it, and thus meted out his silent justice. Probably fanciful, but at the same time, too marked to be nothing. DM has taken to tying her bedroom door shut with a dressing-gown cord so that he can't get in. I thought I detected a gleam of triumph in his eye when he spotted that. Yet he still sits beside her in her chair and accepts cuddles. A silent assassin, hehe. 😈 It's good to have an ally, who "gets it" without openly saying anything. I get it, @EastCoastDamsel. I expect a few more of us here do too - difficult parental relationships and mediocre childhoods seem to be a common theme among those of us who have sought pleasure and relief in unwise substances. ❤️

*Sciencey bit: (Carbohydrate Deficient Transferrin - the % of transferrin in the bloodstream that is carbohydrate deficient. Transferrin is a protein largely made in the liver that regulates the absorption of iron into the blood, and transports iron to the parts of the body that need it.
Alcohol consumption can significantly impact the levels of CDT in the body, tests for it show if a person is still drinking to excess regularly. It's what the DVLA test for when deciding to reinstate a revoked or disqualified driver's licence. I have never been disqualified from driving, but I do know about this from my engagement with support services in former years).

Cricket tomorrow. The dog was livid last week when it was rained-off. There is a crease in play - but thankfully no gussets.

Strength and love to all. Keep going - you can do it. x

BigFatSoberLife · 21/06/2024 13:14

@REP22

I love your old aunt analogy. So true!

EastCoastDamsel · 21/06/2024 13:16

Well done doggo! He sounds absolutely ace @REP22 . And I am sure he IS acting on your behalf.

bornonvalentines · 21/06/2024 15:44

Hi everyone. I've just been out with my husband for his birthday lunch. Each course had a suggested wine (see attached) and I did not drink.

Now how do I get through this hot afternoon and evening with his friends and keep not drinking?

How is everyone doing this sunny weekend? X

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