Wankerbastards and summer sunshine will make us want the bloody wine. But tryers to be dryers won't give up, and ice cold becks blue we will sup.

[Frouby]

Thread 7 for the tryers.

Join us for tips and support for encouraging a more healthy relationship with alcohol. Whether you want to drink less, or not at all, stay in your units or just cut down this is the thread for friendship, support, tips and ideas.

Absolutely no judgements here, but there will possibly be swearing.

Other threads are dotted around but I have yet to master a clicky link.

Oh while we were blackberry picking dd2 showed her haul proudly to one of the local drunks who was swaying from side to side clutching a special brew but he was quite sweet to her and shared an anecdote about picking blackberries with his granny round the Albert Dock. It made me feel quite sad that someone's life can just crumble away like that.

Now here’s a depressing tale of life crumbling. I saw a lad in court this week I went to infant school with. I was always quite fond of him up till he left when we were about seven.
There he was, a regular burglar, representing himself.
He told the judge: “I don’t need a barrister or a solicitor. It’s the same story you hear week in, week out. Homelessness, drug addiction... my life’s a car crash. I’m just sorry other people have to get caught up in it. I’m not thinking of them when I do these things.”
He’d broken into someone’s house while they were on holiday, had a shower, made a brew and had a sleep. Then he left with her jewellery.
Bloody tragic all round. I’d be pissed off to be anyone in that story.

On a brighter note, Toby is a bold little chap! He’s settling in well. He’s had a play, some tea and an explore and done his biggest growl to Ozzy (it was tiny 💕). Oz is unsure but interested and not aggressive. Toby isn’t aggressive either but he’s quite confident really. I think they’ll find their level in a few days.
They’ve both shown an interest in each other with very little hissing and lots of slow blinks (cat language for friendship)

But OMG Toby is so utterly cute!!! Haven’t got any great pics yet but prepare to be photo bombed over the next few days!!!

NC4, yes please to kitten pics! Madame, ahhhh at your kittens

That’s sad about the guy in court. There but for the grace of God etc..

Drank last night and was so knackered I think I was asleep by 10. Did drink more than 1 bottle but less than 2. And 4 AF days last week so it’s an improvement on previous weeks tbh.

Drank a lot last night, but it's the last night parents are staying. I'm cleaning up from here. I'm feeling good about it.

Off up North to family party in the pouring rain. Staying at cousin's on other side of town so obviously would be easier if I stayed sober but not sure that'll happen. 2 x taxi I guess! Though am contemplating just swinging by and then taking kids swimming because there won't be any other kids and without the garden it might be a bit much.

He's Toby then NC4?! Glad he's settling in.

So sad about the guy in court. Are you going to write his story? X

Afternoon all

Just flying by again, mega busy atm with dcs and a million and 1 things to do. Was supposed to be having a bbq this afternoon for my pirate friend and next door neighbours. Dh then invited his friends, of the stepford wives variety so been super stressed all week being a stepford wife in all the heat and getting house up to standard.

Then the rain was forecast so we cancelled it. However dh kept the stepford wives friends, told them to come anyway and I would make curry.

Told him to fuck off due to heat, then busy so then he suggested a takeaway. Told him to fuck off with that idea aa well as it's me that ends up sorting orders, phoning it in, plating up etc. That we would go to local for a few beers, then out for a meal.

The fuckers are still coming here for drinks, before going for meal so had to still dust skirts, clean windows etc etc etc.

Had a very soggy kayaking session this morning, dsis was booked in with her dcs for a try it session. Hoping they join, they a seemed to enjoy it. They about 35 minutes away though so it's a bit of a trek but they did like it.

Very not dry. Must do better next week. Everything has gone to pot, diet and drinking. Will put a line under it tomorrow and start again.

Same here Frouby. I think I’ve had 4 bottles of wine this week, plus bread, crisps etc.
I think its the heat. CBA to cook properly - just graze in the garden.

On the subject of skirting boards- Toby went behind the sofa and came out covered in fluff! I think I need to hoover behind them instead of just going round the edges.

Loving the kitten stories and Madame's photo. We need a Toby photo, NC4!

Nodding along with you all on here - everything has gone even more to pot than normal this week. Too hot to eat properly, and have felt the need for lots of cold G&T/white. Have probably exceeded the weekly unit allowance every day.

Senseless and Frouby, I'm with you on trying to clean up my act. Not sure how far I'll get, though.

Morning all

Had a good night last night, bit wet but not horrendous. We left dd with ds and the other 2 dcs. Dd at 15, other dc 14, dc at 11 and ds at 5 home while we nipped out for a meal. First time I have ever left dd babysitting properly but we were only up the road, had 1 car with us and ndns were home. Was easier than dragging kids with us, they had already eaten (wanted kfc rather than curry) and they were perfectly happy with sweets and the tv remote.

Felt really odd though. Suppose it means me and dh can nip out for an odd grown up meal occasionally, dd really doesn't usually want to come with us and ds happier at home as well.

Weather absolutely awful here after all that lovely sunshine. Went kayaking yesterday in the rain as dsis had a trial session booked, they all really enjoyed it so hopefully they will make themselves members but it's a good 40 minutes drive for her so might be a bit far.

Not up to much today, will possibly drag the carpet cleaner out this afternoon but it's a small possibly. Feel a bit rough still, asthma is being a bitch. This bug seems to have lingered since the dcs broke up.

Need some kitten pictures to cheer up a damp, drizzly sunday!

Definetly going to be dry today, can't remember the last dry day I had, definetly over a week ago.

Here he is!! Little Toby 🥰

I luffs him

Toby is gorgeous! Thanks for the photos NC4. I hope he isn't missing his brothers and sisters too much, I'm sure he'll settle in fine. How is he getting on with your other cat?

Frouby it's great when one of the DC is old enough to babysit. Kids don't always appreciate being dragged out and when they can stay at home everyone is happier.

DD passed her driving test yesterday, first time and with a very good score. So she really is independent now, or will be if I can find her a cheap car. She will be able to help ferry her little brother around for the holidays now, I will no longer be the only taxi driver in the family.

Not dry at all last night, friends came over and we drank 5 bottles between 4 of us. Felt pretty awful this morning, and really need some AF days to catch up on sleep deprivation with the hot weather last week. I also want to lose a couple of kgs, they have crept on with the increase in wine consumption. DP needs to lose considerably more than 2kgs, so hopefully he will be AF too.

NC4, ❤️❤️❤️ I love the kitten fluff!!!

Frouby, I'm glad you had a good adult evening. Have you stayed AF tonight? I have managed it without much difficulty, because I've felt hungover and tired all day. Tomorrow will be a different story, though.

Madame, it's so much more difficult when someone else is enabling it, isn't it? Great about your DD, though. DS doesn't want to learn to drive, though is old enough. DD does, and she's too young...

Hello everyone!

Toby has true star quality!

Frouby, I'm fuming for you over the hosting assumptions of your DH.

Dion, an AF day is an AF day.

Madame, I wish I only had 2kg to lose!

This is my first AF day in ages. It feels good. Had family over for lunch, offered beers but didn't open wine - this log aren't big drinkers and someone had to drive - no pangs at all at being AF. I've drink so so so much lately that I really need it.

I've got to get on top of this gut. I'm going to get back into running and stop hating myself.

Thanks for being there, you great people.

Sounds good, Senseless. It's easier with people who aren't big drinkers.

What I need to get on top of is my servitude to DP. I also need to stop drinking and start eating. None of those is straightforward.

Senseless well done on being AF especially with guests over. I hope you get back into running. Although even running 60 + miles a week I still put in weight, it isn't fair. But I know it's the booze that causes any weight gain I have. I'm not overweight at all but like being 56kg because I run faster!

Dion can you make yourself unavailable to DP for a couple of weeks? You are taken too much for granted by DP and DC and they would certainly realize what you do if you weren't around. Easier said than done, I know.

Not AF today, I forced half a bottle of red down but didn't enjoy it. Tomorrow AF and hopefully the week.

Senseless well done on being AF especially with guests over. I hope you get back into running. It's great for the mind as well as the body if you have good knees, that is. Although even running 60 + miles a week I still put on weight, it isn't fair. But I know it's the booze that causes any weight gain I have. I'm not overweight but like being 56kg because I run faster.

Dion can you make yourself unavailable to DP for a couple of weeks? You are taken too much for granted by DP and DC and they would certainly realize what you do if you weren't around. Easier said than done, I know.

Not AF today, I forced half a bottle of red down but didn't enjoy it. Tomorrow AF, hopefully for the week. I need some quality sleep.

Dion, do you not eat enough?

There used to be threads on relationships for NC support. Maybe there still are? Do you want to remodel your relationship with your DP or do you want to end it?

Madame, 56 kg is unimaginably light to me. I weighed about that when I was 17. I would love to be that again! Although actually I look and feel pretty good about a stone lighter than I am, which I was this time last year - it's perfectly possible. It is the booze that makes it hard for me. I am not a good runner but as you say, it is so good for the mind that it is very worth doing.

I really want to tell someone this lovely thing but it's too sickening to tell anyone in real life. So I am going to inflict it on you lot. Sorry-not-sorry.

Boyfriend is away with his children. He sent me a text saying he was missing me a lot; I thought, oh no, is he having a terrible time? When I got a chance to talk to him I asked how he was and why he was missing me, and he said "I'm having such a great time; I am so happy that I am usually only this happy when I'm with you, and I keep thinking I will look up or around and see you there"

Senseless, I definitely don't eat enough. Especially if I know that I am going to drink, because I can then offset the calories. Disordered thinking, I realise.

What I would like with DP is for him to be a very little bit different. So much is good, and would be absolutely brilliant with a few changes from him. However... I do know that this is all pie in the sky stuff, and he is absolutely not going to change at all, however much I would like him to. I keep thinking I just need to do x, y or z differently, and that will make him see sense. The truth is, though, that his behaviour is nothing to do with anything I have or haven't done, and is all to do with him being him.

That is so lovely about your boyfriend. Very heartwarming!

Madame, you're so right about it being easier said than done. You're still right to suggest it, though.

Hello everyone. Senseless, that's so lovely, don't apologise, it's cheered me!

I eat far too much. Though am so full I couldn't manage dessert even though my friends brought it round.

Had a nice weekend oop north. Weather was terrible. I could barely see in front of me driving on the motorway, was a bit scary, but dcousin and her partner entertained the DC, and I caught up with my auntie's and old family friends. Managed to escape to dcousin's house before things got messy and weather wasn't so bad today so managed to go sailing which was fun. Long drive back and old school friends arrived as soon as we got home so pretty shattered. No AF days but didn't go mad either so am happy enough.

Attempting to work from home tomorrow while dd1 and school chum occupy themselves, at least till mil gets here early afternoon. Hmm. If they're too awful I will take them to multisports camp in the park but will have to give a fake date of birth for dd1 as she's not 8 till Saturday. X

Just flying by. Currently in Florida!! Going to try and catch up with you all but in the meantime sending you all big hugs 🤗

As for me...at $12 a large glass of wine....I’m dryer than if I was at home!!!!!

Hope you're having a brilliant time Flossie!

Hmm, working from "home" has so far involved diversion to cheap cinema and being stung for 3x burger king kids meals and various guff from Primark. Holiday club would be cheaper! Kids are happy though.

And you could have maybe got some work done longest?

Yeah.... I surreptitiously sent a few emails from the back row of detective Pikachu and mil is here now so not a total write off..

Oh.My.God. What did I just eat? Spent my adult life mostly away from convenience foods because of where we have lived. Mostly impossible to get, sometimes available but expensive. I don’t much look in freezer sections in a supermarket because it’s not part of my habit. This weekend I saw ‘Lixda McCartxey Vegetarian Country Pies’ for under 3 quid for 2, which seemed cheap (by our standards). I now realise that I read vegetarian as vegetable not fucking soya protein. Jesus. Thankfully it was just me eating as DH is out tonight. I struggle with eating less animal protein as I go light on carbs in general. I clearly need to wash that shit down with more wine.