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Roses are red, we like Becks Blue, Tryers to be Dryers push on through. 2019 will be our Valentine.

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Frouby · 05/02/2019 06:34

Thread 4 for support, tips, tricks and friendship as we reduce our alcohol intake even more. For anyone who wants to reduce, stop, moderate or even just track their drinking.

Absolutely no judgement, just support. Everyone welcome.

Previous threads somewhere but am rubbish at clicky links.

Old tryers and new dryers, welcome to our thread. The one that starts in February and will see us all hit our goals as we move forwards.

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NC4Now · 17/03/2019 21:51

Maybe a little bit. Not heartbroken because he has a point. Anyway, he’ll be getting his ear bent by his mates (who are the husbands of my friends and a decent bunch) so I’m not totally ruling out anything in the future.

I too would be fuming Frouby.

leavingAqaba · 18/03/2019 08:01

I can see how that would be a bit disappointing. I'm sure that there are some more chapters to this story though Wink

Anglaise1 · 18/03/2019 12:24

Flossie I'm sorry that DD's health is deteriorating. What a worry for you. And you don't need comments or criticisms from DH when he doesn't have to deal with the day to day stress of looking after her.
Frouby men in general have no concept of domestic tidyness. Having said that the few I've know who were weren't men I could have lived with. They couldn't bear a dog in the house and I can't live without my border collie.
NC4 Glad you had a good night out and it sounds like things could develop thanks to mutual friends, keep us posted! Is it today you are seeing the hynotherapist?
I'm going to try for a few AF nights. I could barely drink the second glass of wine last night and am quite fed up with it now. Not sure I'll feel the same tonight when I get back from work at 8pm and find that no-one in the house has let the dog out, shut the hens in, laid the table etc...

Frouby · 18/03/2019 13:48

Well I feel slightly less likely to stab dh today. He's been at work since 6.15am so I always love him more then 😂. He is slightly housetrained these days, did the ironing sunday morning, though forget to get the rest of the school uniform out of the tumble dryer and did cook a lovely steak Saturday night, but has to be told 23 times how perfectly cooked it is.

But he just doesn't think that pots are his problem. Or that if he does the pots once that they don't need doing again a meal later.

Currently halfway through cleaning my house, upstairs is done, just about to hoover, mop and dust downstairs then might give the kitchen a mini spring clean.

I hate cleaning but love it when everything is done and tidy and clean.

Should be dry tonight. But really really really fancy a gin. Have told myself if everything is done by 6pm, I can have 1.

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Flossie44 · 18/03/2019 17:37

Frouby - 23mins to go......how’s it looking time wise?!!!Grin

Dionysa · 18/03/2019 17:44

Hello lovely Tryers. Have now caught up.

Flossie, I have absolutely nothing to moan about compared to you and feel a bit ashamed of myself. I am so, so sorry about your DD. I can only imagine that you just want some magical person to come along and make everything better. I am sending you endless hugs.

NC4, I'm glad you got a snog. Is it tomorrow that you're seeing the hypnotherapist? I will be interested to hear how you get on. Mine has stopped asking me to rate him on Facebook (which I haven't got anyway), which is a relief.

Frouby What started as an innocent conversation about donuts has escalated into a teenage critique of my parenting Oh God, you say it so well. Pretty much any innocent conversation with my DD turns into a teenage critique of my parenting. FML. However, she wants to have a party, so was being strangely nice yesterday.

I want a twatting quiche, but am making one of the two meals that DD will actually eat. It's either chicken or chicken.

Am craving gin. However, I'm having a massive dose of health anxiety, as I looked up 'itchy skin' on Google and found it is a symptom of alcoholic liver disease. So I am going to try very hard to get through Day 2, because I am now convinced that I have damaged myself beyond repair (cue evil inner voice saying that I might as well have a gin, in that case).

Leaving and Longest, I'm not sure if teenagers or younger children are more trying...

leavingAqaba · 18/03/2019 17:55

Dion what kind of chicken or chicken do they eat?
What kind of party? Mine are obsessed with birthday parties. All fucking year.

Frouby · 18/03/2019 18:08

Flossie its going very well ginwise.

However at 5.30pm I cracked open a can of lager. On the second one now, then having shower and then switching to the gin.

Currently playing a blinder and got dd making the pastry for twatting quiche 😂😂. Its all good here in Chez Frouby.

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Flossie44 · 18/03/2019 18:38

Oh Dion..I too have health anxiety. Which in turn perpetuates the drinking!! I worry about cancer..then drink to blot out the worry!! Ffs

Frouby - what do you add to twatting quiche??

Kids here had pasta. Dh wants chicken pasta sauce (home made). But I can’t be armed with chicken and want veggie pasta sauce. Failing that I wanna go all out, and cook a tray bake and potato dauphinois!! Hahahahaha. All or nothing!!
Obviously I can dream cos whatever I suggest in chez flossie is met with ‘urghhhh..don’t fancy/like that’ fml

Flossie44 · 18/03/2019 18:38

Arsed. Not armed

longestlurkerever · 18/03/2019 18:50

NC4, I too think this story may not be over.

Another notch in the shit parent bedpost - dd1's teeth are a state. I need to make radical changes to ensure her adult teeth are ok. Better brushing is one thing but I know she has too much sugar too. Her entire diet is shit and I don't know what to do about it.

Anglaise1 · 18/03/2019 18:59

Dion itchy skin would be due to a ton of stuff, not just alcohol, don't worry yourself unecessarily!
I have a twatting quiche in the oven, well, not a quiche exactly but a tart with pink onions and goats cheese. DS hates it so he will have to make do with pasta.
Quiche/tart is my favourite evening meal with lots of lettuce. But everyone else in the house would be happy with pasta every night.

longestlurkerever · 18/03/2019 19:06

I honestly don't know what to feed my DC any more. They literally won't eat anything except pizza, and very plain pasta without complaint. They will eat very small amounts of one or two vegetables, chicken and eggs. Otherwise they eat nothing but fruit and nuts or junk.

Dionysa · 18/03/2019 19:11

Leaving, it's a teenage party. FML.

Lurker, I'm really sorry to hear about DD1's teeth. I know nothing at all about teeth. Is the damage repairable?

Children and diet. Ugh. Chicken appears to be acceptable in most forms. But I am sick of sodding chicken. DS is very slightly more adventurous, but not much. I keep saying that they are well beyond an age where it might be reasonable to be fussy, but it makes no difference.

Anglaise, I want some of your tart. Thank you for reassurance. Still convinced I've done terminal damage to my liver. But am only just managing not to head for the gin cupboard all the same. What a pair we are, Flossie.

NC4Now · 18/03/2019 19:14

There’s a lot of quiche love on this thread. I’ve never made a twatting quiche but I may try.
I love the quiche they serve up in the canteen at work, with salad and home made coleslaw. Do you all make your own pastry?

longestlurkerever · 18/03/2019 19:38

Dion, kind of. She needs fillings in 3 teeth. She already has two. They are all baby teeth but her adult teeth are growing too. I have never had any issues with my teeth. I just brush them and go to the dentist twice a year, to be told they're fine but I should floss. I kind of assumed it'd be the same for the DC.

Anglaise1 · 18/03/2019 19:50

Dion I'll save you a slice!
The (peri) menopause is responsible for just about every symptom going. I'd be more inclined to blame that than alcohol!

Frouby · 18/03/2019 19:57

NC I do make my own pastry because if I buy ready rolled it tends to go out of date before I get round to using it because I am good at meal planning lovely wholesome meals, but often think fuck it and we have something less faffy.

I am doing tonight's twatting quiche with ham, cheese and a tomato. I do 6 or 8 eggs to one carton (either 284ml or 300 ml) of single cream. Whisk eggs and cream, add chopped ham, tomato ends chopped up and the cheese with salt and pepper. Pour into either your pastry case or pastry tin, top with a couple of thin slices of tomato, a bit more cheese and bake on about 170/180 for 25-30 minutes depending on your oven.

You can add anything to quiche really as long as it's not too wet. So cheese, ham, mushrooms, the tomato ends, onions etc. I do like a salmon, broccoli and tomato one M and S do but I think I would dry fry the broccoli for a few minutes before to dehydrate it a bit.

It's very calorific with the cream and pastry but I will have some tonight then for lunch for a few days with salad.

I banned dd from parties when she turned 12. Probably have her 16th in a function room or something but that's it really.

My dcs are fussy as well. Dd is veggie, ds refuses most veg. Ds doesn't like anything spicey, dd doesn't like processed foods or ready meals. They both eat cheese and tomato pizza, pasta with tuna mayo for ds and pesto for dd. Dd likes quesadillas with cheese and sweetcorn, both will eat toasties. Both like a sunday dinner. Both like quorn bolognese or lasagne if I make it. Dd likes omellete, guacamole, savoury rice, curry, quorn fillets. Ds likes fishfingers, chicken nuggets etc.

It's a battle to find something they will both eat and dh will eat. I usually end up cooking 3 separate meals. But dd will occasionally cook for them both, she has tonight after yesterdays bollocking 😁.

I think the worst thing for kids teeth is juice or fizzy drinks. I am really lucky because dd only drank dilute and ds only drank water or purple fruit shoots until this Christmas. He now likes apple and orange juice but have told him that's just a breakfast drink so he has one small drink with his cereal. The rest of the time its water unless we are out when he gets a fruitshoot.

How old is she longest? I bought jamie Oliver's ministry of food for dd when she was about 8/9 and let her pick 1 recipe a week to cook for us. It was an absolute pita having her faff around taking 2 hours to cook a meal but it was worth it, as she got a good idea of proper food and what's healthy and what isn't and it made her more adventurous. Maybe try something like that, talking about healthy foods, balance and sugar. Jamie Oliver is a pompous annoying twat but the kids know who he is and that he's all for healthy so they seem to relate to him more than say Gordon Ramsey or Hugh Fearnley whatshisknob. There are loads of simple, easy meals in that book and they are all pretty heathy.

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NC4Now · 18/03/2019 19:58

Dion hosted a teenage party over the summer. I was traumatised for about three days after. My back room, kitchen and yard were like a scene from Skins.
My advice: set limits on numbers (and expect double), hide all your booze, rugs, ornaments and valuables, ban them from upstairs and feed them (I did hotdogs).

It’s tomorrow for the hypno yes. I’m quite looking forward to it.

NC4Now · 18/03/2019 20:17

I cross posted with you there Frouby. I might have a look at that book. My kids aren’t fussy but DS2 is really piggy for sweet things. He’s driving me mad.
If we have a packet of biscuits in he won’t stop asking for them till they are all gone, same with cake or any ‘treat’ food. I don’t know if it’s an ASD thing or a teen thing but it has to stop.
Doesn’t help my mum fuels it too.
I’m finding myself on an increasingly short fuse with him. Everything is a nag or an excuse.

Anglaise1 · 18/03/2019 20:53

Dion I've you a slice 😉
The (peri) menopause is responsible for just about every symptom going including dry itchy skin due to less œstrogen. I'd be more inclined to blame that than alcohol,

Frouby · 18/03/2019 21:01

Ds (5) is like that too Nc, have started giving dd her share of treat stuff to take to her room, otherwise he eats it until it's gone. He's a fucker for those MR Kipling's slices and cherry bakewells, I put them in the top cupboard now so he can't see them otherwise he doesn't rest.

I have loads of cookbooks but find Jamie Olivers the easiest and nicest to fit in with family life. You dont need billionty herbs and spices, or 37 ingredients, a lot of it is just meat, veg and cupboard staples.

The simplest is Ministry of Food, it's written as though you know nothing, so doesn't say saute something when it means gently fry, or make a roux, it talks you through every step.

My favourite book is Jamies Dinners, which is just basic family cooking with basic kit. I use it an awful lot. Jamies Italy is fab for pasta and risotto and pizza. Some of the newer ones (30 minute meals, Jamies Great Britain) I don't really bother with apart from 1 or 2 recipes. And as I have said before I love my The Curry Secret book.

I reckon for a teenager Ministry of Food followed by Jamies Dinners and then Jamies Italy would pretty much see them through life if they could master half a dozen recipes from each book.

Dd has promised she is making sunday lunch Frouby style on Mothers day. I reckon with a little bit of supervision, jamies ministry book and cheats gravy she will be able to manage. She used to make a coated chicken, fancy green beans and little roast potatoes when she was 9, can make a few pasta dishes from scratch, veggie lasagne and bolognese, omelettes, chips and wedges in the air fryer, buns, biscuits and courgette and lemon drizzle cake, toasties, poached eggs and a few other things. Plus oven food like pizza and quorn fillets and jacket spuds.

Just wish she would do it more often!

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NC4Now · 18/03/2019 21:21

DS2 enjoys cooking and baking and said tonight he wants to start making one meal a week. It’s just steering him towards healthier options and cutting back on puddings.
The other week we made chocolate brownies and ice cream, which were lush, but I felt my waist thickening with every spoonful.
He has sensory issues with his teeth too, so we really need to cut back on sugar.
I’ve got a ton of cook books actually. I might even have The Curry Secret. I definitely have a curry one.
The latest WeightWatchers one is pretty good actually. Maybe I’ll set him loose on that one.

Frouby · 18/03/2019 21:38

If he likes baking look at courgette and lemon drizzle cake, it's not quite as bad as a normal cake and I usually reduce the amount of sugar by about 1/3. Same with banana loaf. Also apple and strawberry crumble is nice and doesn't need as much sugar as apple and BlackBerry especially if you use an eating apple rather than cooking apples. And you can do a topping from porridge oats rather than the traditional flour/sugar/butter.

And trifle made with sugar free jelly, either homemade or reduced sugar custard, fresh rather than tinned strawberries and no sprinkles just blueberries or something on top would be less sugar.

I have found you can reduce sugar quite easily by using fruit instead. Which still has sugar but no one ever got unhealthy from eating too much fruit no matter what the diet clubs tell you.

Its harder to reduce fat than sugar but I think dcs need fats to be healthy. I do monitor sugar in ds, but not fats. Dd naturally eats fairly healthy stuff.

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longestlurkerever · 18/03/2019 21:41

Thanks. She's 7. She only drinks milk or water. It's everything else I think - she sounds like NC4's ds. I am definitely going to get her involved in cooking. I have recipe books galore, including Jamie Oliver and the Leon cookbook which she spotted the other day. When I am going to fit this in I have no idea but I have a bit of time tomorrow so it's a start.