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I drink a bottle of wine every day and can't seem to stop

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felttippens · 28/06/2015 10:41

The days that I try not to do it im left feeling very lost and depressed.

It is making me fat, lethargic and rubbish

Tips please of how to get this dreadful habit in check - Id like to still enjoy wine but at a less destructive/more sociable level

I don't drink anything other than wine really- if I have a lager or something I don't feel compelled to drink more but one glass of wine and before I know it ive finished the bottle

Help!

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Shockers · 03/04/2016 17:27

lilaclil, 1.5 stone is brilliant!

This weekend hasn't been great. I went to a party on Friday, then a lunch on Saturday. After the lunch I had a bottle in front of the fire in the evening.

I have made sure I carried on exercising though, and I've drunk a lot of water, so I'm hoping a dry week will be relatively easy to achieve.

That said, I'd love a glass of wine now and have come on here to get the desire out of my system.

Shockers · 03/04/2016 17:28

Hi Stellar Smile.

whoopsididit · 30/04/2016 10:20

How is everyone doing ? After managing to restrict quite well , the last few weeks I've slipped back to daily drinking of around a bottle of wine

Feeling depressed fat and pathetic Blush

Halleberry · 07/05/2016 09:14

Im new and struggling with this to Sad

Summerdays11 · 15/06/2016 12:17

Hi can I join ? I used to drink a bottle a night . It was a stress releaver for me . So I now I practice mindfulness . I still drink but try to have a bottle only twice a week - usually with food etc . Creeped up again recently ( not as bad as before but to often !)
So I'm wanting to cut back again . I had over a bottle last night feel rubbish .
Again it's stress , but I'm making a continues effort to make time
For me .im not drinking tonight - will tomowow as out with a friend for drinks !
Won't Friday -sat and Sunday at pre arranged events so will try to limit it

Caramelslice · 27/07/2016 05:10

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lilydaisyrose · 27/07/2016 05:38

I'm not a drinker Caramel, but I can't sleep so read this thread and wanted to let you know that I am rooting for you. You can do it!!

tangerino · 27/07/2016 06:27

I know exactly how you feel, Caramelslice. You are doing just the right thing.

Can I recommend this blog mummywasasecretdrinker.blogspot.gr/2016/07/sms-guide-to-sober-summer-holidays.html?m=1 The link is to the most recent post (re not drinking on holiday) but the whole blog is fantastic IMO.

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HaroldCopter · 01/08/2016 07:23

Hi Caramelslice, how are you getting on?

I would like to join you, if I may. So much of what others on this thread have written resonates with me. I have two young children (currently on maternity leave) and I have got to the point where I need to admit to myself that my drinking is now in control of me, not the other way around, and I have to do something about it.

I've had an unhealthy relationship with alcohol - binge drinking - ever since I started to drink as a teenager (except when pregnant), but I'm particularly worried that while I've been on maternity leave this time, it has crept up to drinking up to a bottle, sometimes more, probably six days out of seven. Even worse, this is mostly in secret so my DH has no idea. I tell myself that I won't drink on a given day, but then like a lot of the mums on here, it gets to 4 or 5 pm and I just can't help it. I then find ways to drink in secret - have a couple of glasses before my DH gets home from work, another while he baths the children, and then maybe pour myself "one", but secretly top it up so he doesn't notice... I have to hide bottles from him, only put out in the recycling what I think I can get away with and bin the rest: if nothing else, it's so stressful because I worry constantly about him noticing. A night out for him, at a work do, with friends etc, is welcomed by me because it's another opportunity to drink - I'll buy two bottles, drink one and a glass from the second, then hide the empty one so it looks like I've only had one glass. I've recently started adding a few G&Ts, too.

The catalyst for me realising this has to stop came last week. I went to visit family, who are heavy drinkers, and one night drank so much that I vomited in front of my children, into a towel, when getting them ready for bed. My three year old saw. I am so heartbroken and utterly ashamed of what I did, and what I have been doing to my relationship with them through alcohol. Put simply, there are probably times when I am not fit or safe to be looking after them. How could I ever forgive myself if they hurt themselves or if I was incapable of keeping them safe in an emergency, through drink? It has to stop.

These aren't the only reasons I want to stop. It makes me irritable and snappy with them. This needs to change. It makes me bloated and lethargic. I want to have more energy and lose the constant alcohol "fog". I don't want any more mornings where I struggle to remember conversations, what I watched on TV or what stories I read to the children at bedtime. I have so much I want to do with my life, and time is slipping away from me as I wander through life dazed by alcohol.

I'm not entirely sure of the reason I drink. Habit, definitely. I now realise I grew up with a lot of people around me modelling unhealthy behaviour around alcohol, in all kinds of different ways, so to abuse it probably seemed the norm. I do think I also suffer with mild depression, and that this got significantly worse, for a period, after the birth of my youngest. So I probably use alcohol to self medicate as well. These are not excuses, though, I am an adult in control of my life and I need to do just that: take control. I don't want to model this behaviour for my children. I don't want them to have memories of visiting different shops each day for mummy to buy wine (I'm worried about the cashier noticing if I go to the same shop day after day, so rotate which ones I visit). I don't want them to remember me drunk and vomiting, or just not being properly "there" for them, or grumpy with them, through drink. I don't want to die young and leave them without a mother before I should.

So I started in earnest yesterday. I'm admitting all of this here, which I've never done before, not even properly to myself, always telling myself that I didn't have a problem, I could stop if I want to... I was wrong. I should probably tell someone in real life, but I don't think I can do that. My DH would, understandably, be horrified and probably leave me. I would be worried about losing my children if I go to my GP. If I carry on the way I am going, I will lose them anyway so this is why I need to take control and stop.

So, what I am going to do... This will probably sound like completely the wrong approach to some, and you may think I'm deluding myself, but I don't think I am going to try and give up completely and forever. I have set myself some rules that I am going to try to stick to:

  1. Absolutely no more secret drinking, ever.
  2. Make not drinking my daily norm, so I don't drink on far more days than I do.
  3. Not drink to excess (visible drunkenness, memory loss etc) on days when I do drink, eg out for meals, at weddings, Christmas etc.

I feel that these are more manageable and realistic goals for me. Obviously, if I can't stick to them then I will have to give up completely.

I know I'm going to have to find a lot of willpower to achieve this. More than I've ever had before, but I do feel determined. Some strategies I'm going to use:

  1. I've downloaded the Drinkaware app. I'm usually quite motivated by this sort of thing (MFP, activity targets on my Fitbit etc) so this should help. I filled in my first no-drink day yesterday and it felt good.
  1. I'm going to keep busy. Make plans to take the children out late afternoon when I'd usually be reaching for the bottle, have things ready to do in an evening. And there's SO MUCH I want to do that I pretend I don't have time to do right now - when I would if the evenings weren't spent in an alcohol fog - reading, sewing, knitting, taking better care of myself - painting nails, a soak in the bath etc. I'm going to plan something for myself for every evening.
  1. Read some sobriety blogs, maybe listen to some podcasts. I've already started reading the Mummy Was A Secret Drinker blog. Perhaps I'll start my own - the idea of writing/blogging has always appealed.
  1. Meal plan and shop weekly, so I don't have the excuse of needing to go and buy food for dinner to go to the shop and buy wine, too.
  1. Exercise. I've been wanting to try to fit some exercise in for ages but guess what, can never find the motivation or the time. I'm going to try and squeeze some in every day - it needn't be much, it's a step in the right direction and will hopefully help my mood too. I started yesterday with my first run in months, and kind of hated doing it but LOVED how good I felt afterwards.
  1. Get some recipes for non-alcoholic drinks that feel a bit special that I can make whenever I get the wine craving. I've seen a great thread on here that I'm going to read.
  1. Try to change my life for the better in other areas, as much as I can. So, as well as the exercise, get and keep on top of a housework routine, make healthier food choices (always way easier when I'm not drinking anyway), read some parenting books to try to make myself a better parent generally. This might all sound like too mug at once, but I'm a very all or nothing person so I think the more improved my life is in other areas, the more that will motivate me to stay off the wine as well.

Wow, that was long. But it feels cathartic to have it all out there. I feel like I've finally had the revelation that now is the time to get my shit properly together, starting right now, and hopefully with some of you lovely people to support and keep a check on me!

HaroldCopter · 01/08/2016 21:52

Just checking in for today... Alcohol free day (day 2) for me today. I went to the supermarket and wasn't tempted to buy wine, and never really craved it at all this evening. I tried soda, lime and mint as a "pick me up" when cooking dinner and enjoyed that. I've also done pretty well with diet today, and managed a 3 km run (not far, but I am horribly unfit). All steps in the right direction.

I've got things planned with the children for each day this week and have meal planned and shopped until the weekend so I won't need to go to a shop before then. And I've tried to be much more patient with the children today. This has gone well, with me remembering where my stress points are - getting them dressed and out of the door in particular. Pleased at how I coped with a trip to the supermarket when they were both getting tired and hungry. I've not been as "engaged" with them today as I'd like, due I think to having quite a busy day, so hoping to have a quieter one tomorrow and more time for just playing with them.

Now in bed with a clear head and looking forward to day 3 tomorrow!

Caramelslice · 02/08/2016 23:39

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HaroldCopter · 05/08/2016 23:18

Ah, thanks Caramel Flowers.

How are you getting on? Sorry I haven't been around much this week, one of the children had a birthday coming up so it's been a frenzy of present buying, party planning and cake making this week! It's kept me busy though, which for me is a good thing, and I'm pleased to report day 6 of no drinking here Smile. If I'm honest, it has so far been way easier than I expected. It's definitely an easy week in that DH has been around every evening so no temptation to drink without him around, but I haven't even really considered or fancied having a drink until today. It's been hot here today, and walking past people in a beer garden did make me consider buying a bottle, but I thought about it and decided it was just habit/reflex talking - hot day, Friday night - so didn't bother, and I'm glad I didn't. I had a Brew instead and got some sewing done and again enjoying going to bed with a clear head. I know there will be harder weeks to come, but I'm feeling proud and positive tonight.

How has your week been? Well done on the conversation with your DH. Hopefully having some RL support will be a real help in maintaining your willpower. Maybe one day I'll be able to come clean yo my DH too.

Sending you good wishes for a sober weekend Flowers.

lilydaisyrose · 06/08/2016 08:45

Very very proud of you both - please keep it up, I'm rooting for you.

Xxx

Caramelslice · 06/08/2016 15:10

Harold, you're doing amazingly. Building a great foundation. Unfortunately after three days of sleeping well and feeling really good, I slipped. It was the last night of our holiday, we were out for dinner and I genuinely couldn't see what harm a glass of wine would do. I had three then my husband said to stop. Slept badly, grumpy next day etc etc. I must accept that I am not a one drink sort of person... And I always regret it.

So I'm back to day 2 again now. But really focused now- had a great time going for a run with my daughter this morning, definitely wouldn't have done that if I'd had a drink the night before.

Bit confused about my husband though. He's a moderate drinker and he simply cannot understand why I don't moderate. He's like - but it's fun, you don't need to give up, just have less. I think he has quite a lot invested in not believing I have a problem with drinking, and he therefore doesn't really support the idea of me being sober. He's a decent person, so he says all the right things, but ultimately he doesn't believe I have stopped drinking because he doesn't want me to.

But that's okay, I need to do this for myself anyway. Listening to recovery elevator and reading mummy was a secret drinker / crying out now to keep me focused.

I'm really impressed with you Harold, keep going.

Lily- thank you, the accountability helps X

Lilybensmum1 · 08/08/2016 08:39

Can I join please? I can relate to a lot of these posts and have come to the conclusion I need to stop drinking completely I thought I could moderate it but I can't.

It's such a waste of life and the crippling guilt day after day makes me wonder why I don't or can't stop. It all feels so overwhelming not sure how to start or even if I can. The encouragement and stories on here seem a good place to start for now. Hope everyone is waking up hangover free today unlike me.

Caramelslice · 08/08/2016 09:15

Hello LilyBen. Yes, please do. Try downloading the recovery elevator sobriety ap on your phone? It's 79p and it tracks how many drinks you haven't had and what that saved you in calories and cash. I'm finding it motivating. I also downloaded a weight tracker as I am hoping not being drunk/hungover all the time will help me get to my ideal weight too.

Yesterday was tough for me though. I started last Friday and I am not sleeping well - weird dreams etc. I am managing to not drink but we are having people over for dinner at the weekend and I'm finding it hard to have faith that I won't drink then. Some part of me is actively looking forward to falling off the wagon on Friday, even the my concours mind really doesn't want to! I don't want to embarrass myself, I don't want the guilt and shame, I don't want to wake up puffy and grouchy and I don't want the extra calories... I need to work hard to make sure my head is in the right place for that dinner.
Stay in touch.

poppym12 · 08/08/2016 09:44

I really feel for you all. I rarely talk about my past but I have never forgotten how drinking habitually and, I felt at the time, out of necessity, made me feel. I hated myself. The hate made me drink again to make the feeling of hate disappear. It always came back, tenfold.

I haven't had chance to read every post yet but what 'worked' for me was as Harold describes.

Cutting down for me never worked as I was kidding myself that I was in control if I just had one or two, or if I only had a couple when I went out. It was an excuse for my drinking to control me again.

Some bad stuff happened but I still didn't stop immediately then I realised what I was losing - my health, my sanity and the ability to watch my dc grow through clear eyes.

At the time I made the decision to just get through one day. I became proud of each day without alcohol. It became a week. Month. Year. It's now been 11 years (I think) and the only way I have managed this is to make the choice of not now. Not ever. I know ever is a long time but even after a decade, I don't trust myself to just have one or two and the fear of how quickly I could slip scares the crap out of me.

Apologies for the long and rambling post. I just wanted to pop by and say please, don't give up quitting the booze. It can be done. You can do it. Make that decision that you are ready and strong enough to take back control. Remove the temptation of there being alcohol available. It helps. Ask friends or partners not to bring alcohol into your house during the first stages. Don't 'nip' to the shop for something random which could turn into being lured by the shiny bottles. When you go out, if you don't want to tell the people you are with that you have stopped drinking, fib and say you're on antibiotics or something that would react with alcohol so you'll stick to soft drinks. Be kind to yourself. The self loathing that comes after drinking is awful. Stop making yourself feel worthless. You can take back control.

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Lilybensmum1 · 08/08/2016 10:46

Poppy that's amazing. Thank you everyone for the suggestions I have some books on my kindle from my last failed attempt!! I will make some plans to do things with the children and research some non alcoholic drinks alternatives. Caramel I will download that app that's what I want to see results you can measure.

Funny thing is I always have money for wine but say we can't afford to do this or that so will be great to see the savings.

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Lilybensmum1 · 08/08/2016 22:30

I'm feeling a bit like you tonight only after dinner I have eaten a toblerone. Dairy milk daim bar, a solero, 2 slices of toast oh and a piece of birthday cake.

I can identify with what you say I do have a problem with alcohol and I too worry about missing out on alcohol related fun! I feel down and really fed up.

We can do this though and imagine the clear skin, weight loss and energy no hang over and self loathing. I can help to support you perhaps we can bounce off each other.

The massively positive thing is you have been alcohol free for a few days that's massive. I'm not sure I can do this but I'm going to try. My kids need me sober and active in life my DH deserves this too.

Maybe I will be feel like you in a few days and will be saying the same. We can do this.

Think about the money too,I have promised myself treats with some of his money, nice coffee candles chocs etc.

poppym12 · 08/08/2016 23:28
Grin

Very pleased for both of you. Don't fret about sober being boring. It really isn't. You don't need to drink to have fun. What does alcohol related fun involve that can't be achieved when sober? And is that couple of hours of toxin induced fun really worth the hangover and self loathing that follows?

Now, giving up chocolate......I can't help you with that as I recently discovered dairy milk oreo.

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HaroldCopter · 09/08/2016 07:23

Good morning everyone. Glad to see some new people joining, Lily and Poppy - hello! A huge well done to Caramel and Lily for staying sober despite tough evenings last night - they are the nights that really count, when you really want to drink but don't, so you should feel really proud of yourselves Star.

Things are going well here. I did have a couple of glasses on Saturday evening, but stuck to my rules - didn't get drunk and haven't allowed that evening to become a slippery slope of regular drinking again. And I turned down a top-up at the end of the night when the old me would definitely have accepted. Then last night we went out for dinner and I was really worrying about whether I'd drink or not, but when the waitress came I ordered a ginger beer. I found I felt a bit grumpy about it at first - like I was missing out, but after 10 minutes or so that had gone and I then didn't miss it at all and still enjoyed myself. Would that work for you for Friday night, Caramel? Force yourself not to have a glass when everyone has their first, and see how you feel about it, taking it one drink at a time?

I'm finding taking it one day at a time, like all the advice says, is really helpful. I'm not saying I'm not drinking forever (although my goal isn't to quit completely anyway, at least at the moment), just that I'm not drinking today. It feels less scary and overwhelming that way. Also, I am finding the Drinkaware app (free through the App Store) really helpful and motivating - I love recording no drink days! It tells you how many calories, how much money, how many minutes running and how many equivalent burgers you're consuming as well Smile. I'd really recommend giving it a go, Lily.

Caramel - I'm around to give you a bit of RL support on Friday night if you would like. I read somewhere that making an emergency plan for what you know are going to be difficult situations is important, so it sounds to me like you're doing all the right things. Please PM me your number if you'd like. I haven't really faced my first major test yet - a night where my DH isn't around, so I'm still thinking about my emergency plan but it will involve re-reading my first post on here and planning lots of alternative drinks and keeping busy. I know that will be my first big test and I'm not looking forward to it.

Diet and exercise have gone off the radar a bit as it's mini-Harold's birthday today so there has been a lot of party food and birthday cake around from the party at the weekend. We're going out for lunch as a family to his favourite American diner today, so it won't be a healthy day today but hoping to get back on that tomorrow!

Good luck to everyone for today Flowers x