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To not want to take 2yr old in?

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MrsRyanGosling15 · 07/01/2018 12:09

Long story short and will change a few bits but here goes. Have a 2yr old half sibling. 1 parent dead and 1 parent with realistically not long left. Both parents had addiction issues. I have spent my life going above and beyond for the parent that myself and sibling have in common. Lots of help with addiction and serious mental health issues. I have another sibling my age with 1 dc I have 4. It seems to be assumed that myself and DH will take her in.

I know we would offer her a better home, we have a 6 bed place. I'm always there for school runs etc. I feel we have a more stable family life to offer. But this is what makes me feel so bad AIBU in the fact that I just don't want to? I have 4 and that is tough and financially a stretch. My kids would never have a holiday again. Think of all the school uniforms, birthdays, dance classes, school dinners not to mention the fact this little one may have fetal alcohol syndrome and all the unknown issues that come with it.
Deep down I know I'm not too good with kids. I love my own and I love this one as a sibling but if I'm being honest I love my own kids more and dont want them to miss out. To admit that has me so upset and makes me feel horrible guilt that I am a terrible person but it's true. I think if my other sibling took her in it would end her marriage as her DH wouldn't support it whereas my DH loves her like one of his own.
How do I look her in the face as an adult and tell her I just didn't want to have her?
Also I think the anger I still feel for the dead parent is still affecting me. I can honestly say I hate her even though she is gone. I predicted this whole situation before she died and the fact I couldn't stand her when she was alive makes me feel like I shouldn't have to sort out her mess she has left by dying when it was all her fault (overdose)
So I do t know what I'm asking? AIBU this horrible selfish person I think I am? Can u take a child in and sacrifice things, not just money but time etc with your own? What should I do? And please be nice, this has been a year from hell that has had me at the brink and i dont think I can take 1 more kicking. I just want to be a good dsis and a good DM but I don't think I know how. Sad

OP posts:
Lovesagin · 07/01/2018 17:04

Yes, that'll be poor dp who threatened to leave me and our DC if I refused to care for his nephew but wouldn't listen to any of my reasons, just kept blarting on about faaaamily and how we'd cope, I'd manage, it's only another person, who cares if it doesn't work we need to try etc (I know, he honestly said that, about a child's life :( ). But no, I'm not the sw, nor was she me, so she spoke to him how she spoke to him. He cried afterwards at how much of a twat he'd been.

TheFirstMrsDV · 07/01/2018 17:05

The OP isn't a fc tinker so won't get the support you do.
Its pretty easy to say 'in a heartbeat' when its your actual job to take kids 'in a heartbeat' isn't it? I mean, that is what FC do.

Surprised that an experienced FC would be trying to push a child into a possibly insecure placement knowing what you do about the effects of disruption on attachment.

Open adoption is a fine idea but how often does it happen in the UK?
Its a hell of an ask for adoptive parents and would certainly limit the chances of the child being adopted.
There are no easy answers here. That kid has already been through enough.
I have witnessed unsuitable kinship placements and they are the worst of all disruptions IMO.
Its one thing losing your birth family once, but twice?

Stitchit · 07/01/2018 17:11

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Lizzie48 · 07/01/2018 17:13

Apparently open adoption happens more often than it used to. We don't have an open adoption ourselves, but it wouldn't have been in our DDs' interests.

You would need to speak to SS about it.

Branleuse · 07/01/2018 17:15

OP for reading the whole thread, im already thinking youre doing so much. This just must be so so difficult for you. x

Lovesagin · 07/01/2018 17:16

Stitch if that's aimed at me and tinker then even though we (clearly!) disagree I think the views we are sharing may help. If not then op (and you!) Can ignore us.

tinkertailorsoildersailor · 07/01/2018 17:20

Agree Lovesagain, although we are both being quite strident and outspoken, at least we are speaking our own 'truth' if you like - on that we agree Wink

IamLucyBarton · 07/01/2018 17:21

MrsRyan I salute you for admitting and sharing these thoughts especially here where people can be so black and white and arsey. But also for all you've done and are doing for your dc, your parents who failed you and your ds who has not fault but is hard work.

I know a bit where you are coming from in rel to having to take someone in and being split between wanting and not wanting, between resentment and kindness.

I have done and often I wish I didn't but at the same time I knew I could not do it. I resent, like you, the fact that the shortcomings and selfishness of others has impacted on my life and because, like you, I care about those left behind, I also feel they left me no choice as I would and could not not help. And exactly like you said I am so angry that nobody cared to ask me before hand or thank me or anything. It felt and it was an imposition.

And yes in these moments, which is not all the time, you do think about the money, the holiday, and the rest. Why not?

Anyway there are also lots of positives but those are not a problem.

My suggestion to start with is, do not think to far ahead (like uni fees etc as that is a long way away and will only cause anxiety). Plan ahead but stay in the present, day by day. Try to talk about this with those involved, you sis, your dh, and the ds surviving parent. It will burn less, they may share your feelings and you'll be able to voice your concerns. They then will be on the ball more.
Do no do what I did make it so easy and lovey that nobody realised how I struggled or how tough it actually was for me and I was isolated with my feelings till I exploded. Which will
Not be good for your dsis as you'll resent her because of all the above.
I always think of Harry Potter and now I know how the Dudleys felt. ( lighthearted).
In other words do not make something really hard a walk in the park because you'll end up confusing yourself in the first place.

Thanks
Lovesagin · 07/01/2018 17:23

My truth is more truthful than yours though.....

(Now thinking if I need to do a winky face.......fuck it ;) )

StrawberryMummy90 · 07/01/2018 17:28

Bella

I’m speechless. Genuinely can’t believe anyone with a shred of human decency would not inform their SIL that they would not be taking her children on.
That’s her kids! How could you ever live with yourself if she passed away and they ended up in care when she thought they would be in a home with familiar, loving faces.

Regardless of the fallout with my DH, if I felt like this I wouldn’t care about the consequences and would make sure my SIL knew. You’re a coward. How would you like it if you thought your DC would go to a home with family if you passed only for them to be completely abandoned and put into a very messed up system.

Perhaps you should rethink your position with taking the child on, by the sounds of it your own kids could do with seeing some compassion, empathy and human decency.

tinkertailorsoildersailor · 07/01/2018 17:33

It's all relative, and subjective, lovesagain.

nocoolnamesleft · 07/01/2018 17:37

I'm probably about to sound like a bitch. The worst outcome for this poor kid isn't that their surviving parent drops dead in a few months, and she rapidly ends up in a stable environment with the OP, or her sister, or adopted. It's that the surviving parent staggers on for years, in and out of drug use, and alcohol abuse. With the child bouncing in and out of care as ss try desperately to keep her with the surviving parent. Until she is too old, with too many emotional and behavioural problems, to have any chance of adoption. And with too many problems for either the OP or her sister to cope with her. So she ends up a long term looked after child.

You don't sound like a heartless cow. You sounds like someone who is genuinely agonising between head and heart. And who has already done a lot to pick up the pieces. Look after yourself.

ittakes2 · 07/01/2018 17:42

I’m sorry this has happened. You have four children and you can’t help how you feel. I think if you resent this child than having her is not going to be good for her or you and your family. Stay an involved sibling rather than a stressed out mother. You are also assuming the worst for her - she is two - maybe she will be placed with a couple with no children who can give her the support and love she needs.

AbbieLexie · 07/01/2018 17:53

I'm very grateful I'm not walking in your shoes. You will be in my thoughts. Sending you huge hugs - no matter what you do you can't get it right.

ChocolateTeddyintheMicrowave · 07/01/2018 17:55

YANBU, I have a 2 year old child with extra needs. She's my only atm, because she needs my full time and attention. I love her but she is hardwork and needs more care than a normal child. I often wonder how I'd manage with another child or other children to look after as well.

I don't think it's cruel or neglectful to hold your hands up and say "I have enough on my plate, I can't cope with this as well". Your DSis is your sibling not your child and therefore not your legal responsibility.

I hope you find a solution that your all happy with. Your priority is yourself as well as your own children.

Aeroflotgirl · 07/01/2018 17:58

Go on strawberry, if you feel that strongly, you take her!

Have yiu not read the amount of posts supporting op from professionals involved with children in care and adoption. Yiu make it sound so easy, it's not, considering op has 4 other children herself, and has to put them first and consider her own mental health and well being. Considering she will be doing tge Lions share of tge work

If you have not read, she already does a lot for this girl, so your anger should be directed to her crap parents who have put this girl in this position.

Aeroflotgirl · 07/01/2018 18:01

Add to that, the child coukd have sn, so might need an lifetime of care. So yiu crack right on with yiur false alturism!

Lovebehindthefool · 07/01/2018 18:03

Ugh to all those spouting shit about how blood is thicker than, can you just sod off and stop chucking out cliched sayings. My child is not related to me by blood...we must have a second rate relationship mustn’t we!

IamLucyBarton · 07/01/2018 18:05

Abbie is right, aknowledging that neither path is a safe one is helpful. Both will make you feel rubbish at times. I supose you have to go with the one that feels right to you and then arm yourself with as much help as you can (psychological and practical) to ride the hard moments.

I would not listen to those who make it sound such a no brainer choice. They have not lived your experiences, they are not you.

Lovesagin · 07/01/2018 18:17

My poor nana had to say she couldn't cope with my grandads dementia because it was affecting her mental health and she couldn't do the things she wanted to anymore effectively ending any life she had. He wasn't even very bad by some standards. I guess she should have just dealt with it because it's family?

MynewnameisKy · 07/01/2018 18:19

No expertise to add but please get proper advice and counselling. This is a huge thing and you need proper advice.

TheFirstMrsDV · 07/01/2018 18:20

love exactly!
I did take on a relative's child. We are not related by blood. Should I have said no because our blood isn't thicker than water?

Helpadvicepls · 07/01/2018 18:25

I think ,(I expect you have already though).. you should call a meeting with the ss and the living parent ,and any possible relatives,to try to decide the best course of action..it could be ,op ,that ss recognise that it would be too difficult for you,and they may take the decision out of yours hands.or it could be they offer you a package of care to take her on...or she could be fostered with her relatives staying involved...this is about putting the little first..and she's young enough to adapt to a new family..if she was adopted

MrsRyanGosling15 · 07/01/2018 18:29

This thread is the best free therapy I've ever had. Just entering the 'witching hours' of bath bedtime carry on but im going to sit down and read through everything again and take note of all the advice and questions to ask. Thank you all so much. I will be back later (Hopefully showered and with a cuppa and a Chinese, it's what Sundays were made for Brew)

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StrawberryMummy90 · 07/01/2018 18:36

aero

Calm down dear and read my post properly before you go on a crazy rant.

My post was addressed to another poster who said her SIL has been told that if she dies it’s fine for her child to be bought up by said poster and her DH. What she doesn’t know is the poster doesn’t want this kid and would put her into care. Her DH doesn’t want their to be an argument so is also concealing this from his sister.

So as far as this woman is concerned, her children are taken care of in the event of her death. When actually that’s not the case at all, she needs to be informed regardless of the fallout because who her child ends up with is far more important than an argument!

I haven’t even commented on OP’s situation because I have nothing to say, I feel for her it’s an incredibly difficult situation and I hope she’s able to find peace with whatever decision she makes.