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Fuck. Russian bomb has hit Poland.

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FayeGovan · 15/11/2022 19:09

What now?

Im scared.

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PaidthepiperTuneismine · 15/11/2022 21:55

MetellaInHortoEst · 15/11/2022 21:49

Apparently he was given the Russian delegate a hard time in Bali today. He is probably being briefed now. I expect they all are.

I suspect it was his grandstanding with Lavrov about this 'barbaric' war which might just have distracted someone momentarily enough for them to shoot a little wide of their target.

PaidthepiperTuneismine · 15/11/2022 21:57

SkylightSkylight · 15/11/2022 21:54

Are you in Poland?

It's not just Poland who is at risk here.

BrightOrangeRectangles · 15/11/2022 21:57

Lord Richard Dannatt, former head of the British Army, told Sky News: "Modern technology is pretty accurate, so it's quite difficult to explain away that this might have been an accident.

www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/russian-missiles-kill-two-people-in-nato-member-poland-us-intelligence-official-says-12748369

Ostryga · 15/11/2022 21:57

Putin is losing India and China support. So he’s trying to show how big his dick is with ‘accidental’ bombings.

Nato isn’t going to be invoked, WW3 is not imminent. Every single leader on this planet realises that we all die if that happens.

Just see it for what it is. A man trying to prove he’s a big guy. When in reality nothing will come from this and in 2 weeks it won’t be talked about again.

ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAgain · 15/11/2022 21:59

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No. Let's keep this in perspective.

Fuck. Russian bomb has hit Poland.
ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAgain · 15/11/2022 22:01

notimagain · 15/11/2022 21:54

But Lviv is and it was also targeted by Russian missiles today.

Yes, this is likely to be significant.

Underthehills · 15/11/2022 22:02

Very sane and sensible thread here on twitter from a real expert.
mobile.twitter.com/RadioFreeTom

Garysmum · 15/11/2022 22:03

ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAgain · 15/11/2022 21:59

No. Let's keep this in perspective.

It’s in perspective. Any response from world leaders that might make Putin feel like he’s not been taken seriously enough or he finds threatening could push a potentially very unstable person into making a ludicrous irrational choice. One step closer doesn’t mean imminent- just one step.
Its all in perspective - if it comes, I can’t do anything about it so I can’t worry about it. But I see these acts as taking us a little closer. We could be 5 steps away or we could be 5 million steps away.
of course it’s my view and I’m sure plenty disagree.

Goldenbear · 15/11/2022 22:07

5 steps and 5 million steps are vastly different and what insight do you have to quote these numbers, does your son Gary have the intel?

workiskillingme · 15/11/2022 22:08

Goldenbear · 15/11/2022 22:07

5 steps and 5 million steps are vastly different and what insight do you have to quote these numbers, does your son Gary have the intel?

😂😂

ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAgain · 15/11/2022 22:08

ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAgain · 15/11/2022 22:01

Yes, this is likely to be significant.

But of course I am speculating, just like 100% of posters on this thread and elsewhere. At the moment we do not know what happened.

EasterIssland · 15/11/2022 22:09

I’m reading threads that it could actually be Ukrainian one
mobile.twitter.com/war_noir/status/1592604662016135169

mobile.twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1592613119649775617

Laneyy · 15/11/2022 22:10

Those who are war mongering think there's actually real people involved with families who love them.

Garysmum · 15/11/2022 22:12

workiskillingme · 15/11/2022 22:08

😂😂

my Son Gary is PM obvs! He has a hotline to all world leaders don’t you know?
that’s how I do very accurately and carefully calculated my figures, which are backed by masses of peer reviewed research papers.
And don’t mention to poor Gaza’s that he’s starting to thin a bit on top, he’s terribly sensitive about it!

cushioncovers · 15/11/2022 22:13

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Ridiculous comment

CrunchyCarrot · 15/11/2022 22:14

I think Poland will be very, very careful in evaluating where the missile(s) came from before anything further happens. Getting it wrong at this point could be very serious indeed.

Garysmum · 15/11/2022 22:15

cushioncovers · 15/11/2022 22:13

Ridiculous comment

I explained my thought process above, but thanks for the attack. I shall ask for my comment to be deleted as clearly nobody else’s thought process works like mine.

notimagain · 15/11/2022 22:15

BrightOrangeRectangles · 15/11/2022 21:57

Lord Richard Dannatt, former head of the British Army, told Sky News: "Modern technology is pretty accurate, so it's quite difficult to explain away that this might have been an accident.

www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/russian-missiles-kill-two-people-in-nato-member-poland-us-intelligence-official-says-12748369

What Lord Dannatt probably should have said is "modern technology is usually pretty accurate".

He will also know on a small number of occasions even the most modern weapons can malfunction...fire several hundred long range missiles (as the Russians have over recent months) and the chances are that at least one or two will not go where they were meant to go.

DeadbeatYoda · 15/11/2022 22:17

PaidthepiperTuneismine · 15/11/2022 19:14

It's far more likely to be Western propaganda to justify intervention by NATO. It will mean NATO war though.

By 'far more likely' do you mean that it fits your world view to baselessly assert that or do you have anything approaching evidence?

Littlemisspawpatrol · 15/11/2022 22:19

I read somewhere that it possibly was a piece of deflected missile.

Fuwari · 15/11/2022 22:20

No one on this thread knows what is going to happen. We can speculate but that's all we can do right now.

Ultimately worrying or being scared is a pointless exercise. If the news is distressing, turn it off. Stay away from SM. Spend time with family/friends and/or do things you enjoy doing. I'm not worrying because it will change nothing. Take each day as it comes.

toastfiend · 15/11/2022 22:20

Dontaskdontget · 15/11/2022 21:00

She’s talking about the smaller tactical nuclear weapons which Putin keeps considering using, and which have been widely discussed in the press, not a hiroshima style mega-bomb. If you haven’t bothered to follow that level of detail in the news then why come on here to critique @Venetiaparties who has given a very intelligent analysis?

Bearing in mind how patronisingly you chose to correct Greenshake's rational and valid point, I have to ask - do you realise that the "Hiroshima style mega-bomb" had around a 15 kiloton yield and the tactical, not strategic, nuclear weapons of today can have up to a 100 kiloton yield? Obviously there's a massive range within that, and perhaps you did know and are indeed referring solely to those with a much lower yield, but if you honestly believe he'll use tactical nuclear weapons, and that this is the green light he needs, then you can see that there's a massive range of scales that could take and a Hiroshima style outcome is by no means the worst. Do you seriously, genuinely believe that is more likely today because a missile most likely went awry in a village of no tactical consequence on the border of a warzone? (I don't say that to minimise the personal tragedy for the people who died today and their loved ones, which is obviously dreadful). How do you know Putin is considering using them, are you personally connected? Seems to me they do the job he wants them to do when he so much as mentions them without having to actively consider them, you only have to look at some of the hysteria on this thread, much of it perpetuated by Venetiaparties, to see that.

Why would the alliance go to war over a likely mistake, by an as yet unidentified side, in a small village near the border of a warzone where one side is known to be made up of poorly trained and poorly equipped conscripts? It's a great tragedy for the people involved, their families and friends, but it's not a likely WW3 catalyst. We've had missiles go 5 miles off course during training exercises (so not people making decisions in "the fog of war") here in the UK in relatively recent memory, it does happen.

ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAgain · 15/11/2022 22:21

mobile.twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1592613980576841728/photo/1

Not just Twitter, Mumsnet too.

Fuck. Russian bomb has hit Poland.
Welpwelpwelp · 15/11/2022 22:25

I’m scared. Doesn’t matter if it was a ‘stray’. Two people are DEAD. That’s a tragedy. Any and all life lost is a tragedy Those poor peoples families.

PaidthepiperTuneismine · 15/11/2022 22:26

ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAgain · 15/11/2022 22:21

And who do you believe and who do you fucking trust at this point.

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