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Midterms, Schmidterms - Trump Thread #171

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Spandauer · 29/10/2026 15:03

Got my dancing shoes polished and ready but will we be Dancing In The Streets or Dancing In The Dark?

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BruceAndNosh · 31/10/2026 09:49

I'd like some high profile person to challenge Trump to draw a clock live on camera.

I knew my mother had early stage dementia but it wasn't that obvious to people who didn't know her. Yet I was stunned at how bad her drawn clock was when she completed a dementia test while I sat beside her.

I was challenged on the Iran war thread for posting a Metro article about him going on about his cognitive tests, and how he aced them. The context was " this is a guy who boasts about being able to spot a photo of a giraffe". A poster said it was fake news. Went on to explain how the tests are actually quite difficult once past the giraffe bit.

And fair enough, the Metro is clearly biased against Trump, But the article was not fake news. It was just adding different "weight" to what it was reporting. It is all factually true. Metro just does the same as almost all the Pro Trump media do.

It is part of his stump speech, to do the " Camera, lion, giraffe" bit, then maybe mention about the maths and clock, but he is fixated on the photo bit.

My suspicion is that he can't easily remember or maybe describe. the "harder" parts.

The folk who know these things suspect it is the Montreal Cognitive test they use. But we do not know for sure.

In any case, the fact that he boasts about passing it at all is just ridiculous. And that he claims to have done it multiple times gets me thinking if he has to practice it.

Anecdotally, I think it is a bit like IQ tests. I remember a couple of years back, I saw a local social media article proclaiming, " Country X leads the word on IQ ratings". I knew nowt about IQ tests, but when I looked into it, it turns out that is not how IQ tests work, and that one can "practice" them. So a country that does regular testing will tend to be higher than a country that does not. And anyway, the tests are designed to average 100 for a given population, so it is pointless to use them for international comparison. I remember it as all pretty complex.

But here we are. POTUS goes on about passing a test designed to spot if something is not quite right.... repeatedly.

countrygirl99 · 01/11/2026 04:16

I've done those tests as part of a research project into dementia. They are not hard at all. But I was identified as having no cognitive decline, maybe if I hadn't they would have seemed tougher.

CaveMum · 01/11/2026 08:35

My understanding on the cognitive tests is that the biggest red flag is that he seems to be doing them so regularly. If everything was fine, why would he need to seemingly keepi doing them every few months?

I’m not a Dr, but looking at him and my own elderly dad (who is 76 but in poor health) I’d say he doesn’t have dementia but what we are seeing is the “normal” cognitive decline of someone in their 80s, particularly given the high pressure job. Now granted he’s not doing much “work”, but he is still sitting (sleeping) through daily meetings; standing up for long periods of time; giving lengthy (rambling) speeches, which is a lot more than is normally asked of a man of his age.

The tiredness, confusion and disinhibition are pretty standard in a lot of 80 year old men. The difference here is that he’s doing it on camera for the whole world to see.

pointythings · 01/11/2026 09:08

countrygirl99 · 01/11/2026 04:16

I've done those tests as part of a research project into dementia. They are not hard at all. But I was identified as having no cognitive decline, maybe if I hadn't they would have seemed tougher.

I've done them too, also for research purposes. Not just the MOCA, others too. They are not difficult for someone without cognitive deficits.

BustingBaoBun · 01/11/2026 09:24

I don't agree with you actually. There are many 75-80 year olds who are far far more on the ball than Trump. I personally know some men of this age who are razor sharp. Let's remember we only see a snapshot of what Trump does, he takes a lot of 'executive' time
I think he has dementia, he is a very angry nasty man and that manifests itself in what we see. I have known a couple of people with dementia who have turned a bit unpleasant probably through frustration. The difference with Trump is, he has never been nice, he is a narcissistic sociopath in my humble opinion. So all his bad points are massively amplified at the age he is

BruceAndNosh · 01/11/2026 09:40

The most nonsensical thing Trump says about these cognitive tests (without admitting they are actually cognitive tests) is the doctors telling him not only has he aced the test, but "it's very rare to get a prefect score as its very hard".
With normal cognitive function, the test is quite straightforward and a score of 26 to 30 should be expected with plenty of people getting 30 /30.
Considering he eats rubbish, takes no exercise and is overweight, he has good stamina for an 80 year old (as long as he can nap thru meetings).
But I regularly play 18 holes of golf with people in their late 70s / early 80s who walk the course which is over 6 miles, plus whacking the ball a few dozen times on the way.
I have relatives in their 90s who are sharp as a tack.

I think Trump's increasing techiness is a very worrying sign

Spandauer · 01/11/2026 09:50

Agree - Trump's irritability and quite vicious outbursts (especially towards reporters) is definitely a worrying sign.

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Spandauer · 01/11/2026 11:49

Too little and waaaay too late.

The New York Times using its front page today to suggest the President has lost his mind.
That every newspaper isn’t dominated by this discussion is one of the greatest media failings of our age.
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Midterms, Schmidterms - Trump Thread #171
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Fortuity · 01/11/2026 12:00

What baffles me about the medical tests is that he is producing reports from doctors which contain complete fiction about this medical status, to the point of lying about things we can all see like his height and weight, let alone his cognitive abilities.

I just wonder about the ethical position of those doctors. I know it all gets complicated by issues around confidentiality etc, but surely for someone in his position it cannot be right for them to be actively hiding salient facts about his health, let alone actually lying about it or condoning him in lying?

SerendipityJane · 01/11/2026 12:04

Fortuity · 01/11/2026 12:00

What baffles me about the medical tests is that he is producing reports from doctors which contain complete fiction about this medical status, to the point of lying about things we can all see like his height and weight, let alone his cognitive abilities.

I just wonder about the ethical position of those doctors. I know it all gets complicated by issues around confidentiality etc, but surely for someone in his position it cannot be right for them to be actively hiding salient facts about his health, let alone actually lying about it or condoning him in lying?

The ethical issue is rather solved with large and regular applications of the medicine "cash". Applied topically and intravenously.

Justsaynonow · 01/11/2026 17:23

Spandauer · 01/11/2026 09:50

Agree - Trump's irritability and quite vicious outbursts (especially towards reporters) is definitely a worrying sign.

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walllaw · 01/11/2026 18:10

The Michigan senate race has just turned completely insane. Haley Stevens is campaigning with Mike Rogers. WTF?

Editing to add, her chief of staff has just quit.

DuncinToffee · 01/11/2026 18:11

Hayley Stevens has endorsed Mike Rogers and now her offical staff incl her longtime chief have resigned

DuncinToffee · 01/11/2026 18:11

Xpost with Wallaw

walllaw · 01/11/2026 18:12

DuncinToffee · 01/11/2026 18:11

Hayley Stevens has endorsed Mike Rogers and now her offical staff incl her longtime chief have resigned

Hah. Posted simultaneously. What on earth?

SerendipityJane · 01/11/2026 18:13

DuncinToffee · 01/11/2026 18:11

Hayley Stevens has endorsed Mike Rogers and now her offical staff incl her longtime chief have resigned

I can't speak for Americans (they are more than capable of doing that themselves, and often do). However I know I've never just voted on an endorsement alone.

walllaw · 01/11/2026 18:16

SerendipityJane · 01/11/2026 18:13

I can't speak for Americans (they are more than capable of doing that themselves, and often do). However I know I've never just voted on an endorsement alone.

I haven't either, but I think in this instance - such a tight race after such a bruising primary, her bringing along the faction that supported her could have made the difference.

Spandauer · 01/11/2026 18:16

Ugh! Trump is going to make hay with this one. What a spiteful move by Stevens.

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DuncinToffee · 01/11/2026 18:17

walllaw · 01/11/2026 18:12

Hah. Posted simultaneously. What on earth?

My SM went a bit nuts with the news.

Talkinpeace · 01/11/2026 18:38

I saw it on twitter and the comments were WILD

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