Can they stoop any lower? Surely this is inhuman?

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From The Washington Post

Coming soon to an American football field in Ohio. Location considerately chosen, with several fast food restaurants nearby for any spectators who get peckish.

Yeah, until it's your brother, sister, mum or dad getting executed and then they find out years later they were actually innocent. Oops ...oh well !

Some people on death row, and this person may be one of them, will love the notoriety of their live streamed execution. How exactly does that help their victims/victims' family.

And how will it reduce the crime rate, it won't

What's the issue with the KSA. It's changed so much since 2010

Yes but you are advocating for the STATE to do the killing for you. I do not think any government should have that power. Governments make mistakes, they abuse power, they are influenced by public anger and political pressure. Limiting state power is a safeguard for all of us.
Ultimately capital punishment is not a deterrent, it serves only as vengeance. Personally I think a whole life rotting in a horrible prison and fading into obscurity is a worse punishment. Death is the easy way out.

This man isn't exactly innocent. He admitted to it.

With modern DNA and forensics come on, the chance of being wrongly convicted is negligible.

This particular man. I shed no tears for his death

Agree, but yes, welcome to the future ( THE PAST!)

People always say this...but how often are other people's family members getting wrongly convicted of crimes that this is actually a pressing concern?

I can't say I know anyone who's ever been wrongly convicted of a crime.

My friend told me this is going to be on livestream?! This can't be right can it? 😱😞

Yes, but it's not been clarified who it will be live-streamed to.

I don't think the death penalty is in any way a deterrent for the sort of crimes it is applied to, perhaps especially the radicalised.

Not quite. 100s of our own men who wouldn't / couldn't fight in WW1 were executed publicly by firing squad following court martial. And enemy combatants were still being executed by firing squad in WW2. I believe several in the Tower of London.

It's important not to confuse civilian capital punishment with military court martial. The US really isn't that far behind.

There's currently a Sri Lankan man who has been sentenced to death in KSA for "blasphemy" because of a comment he made about Islam on facebook.

They have said that about lots of executed people . " we are totally sure they are guilty" " we are just following the law" " they are terrible people"... I'm sure the Saudis and Iranian courts are ok with how they carry out the letter of the law too. Dead is forever and in some ways execution is an easy way out for anyone that actually is guilty . Premeditated killing is an abhorence and states are the most guilty of that in their inhumanity saying to the prosecuted " on a certain day at a certain hour we will remove you from prison and do (?)to you until you are dead " Disgusting.

@Faceonthewrongfoot

To be honest, carrying out torture and murder sprees out of public view is not something that sounds like much of an improvement.

Also, I wouldn’t trust the numbers given by some, or maybe even all of those countries you mention. At least, in the US, you will probably have people independently recording what is happening. Well, as it has to go through the legal system, I hope so. I’m not sure China, Yemen, Iran et al, would be trustworthy, open and transparent on the rates of their murder sprees.

Oh yeah that is unfortunate. I thought they'd just deport you for that TBF

You find it disgusting. I don't. Nidal's actions warrant what he's getting. I have no qualms about him passing.

I don't think this about the death penalty itself and whether that is right or wrong - it's about the fact they will be live streaming it. It makes entertainment out of death, desensitizes people to violence, which just leads to more violence ultimately because it erodes people's humanity, it erodes the value they put on life. I think this particular guy deserves the death penalty, but live streaming it is unnecessary - what is the point? It won't deter anybody else from committing crime at all. It will just draw in every creepy weirdo on the internet to gawp at the spectacle of it and further pollute their minds. It's really fucking stupid, and almost a childish revenge type scenario. Execute him behind closed doors and be done with it. I think the guy who decided to do this is totally lacking in critical thinking skills, idiot.

They exist though and (for eg) the Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4 would undoubtedly have been executed had we still had the death penalty.

It’s not about sympathy for the perpetrator. It’s about live streaming an execution for entertainment value. Do you really want to live in a world where that is seen as acceptable? I couldn’t care less about murderers either, but I don’t believe for a second something like this should be made into a spectacle for the masses.

I agree with you @SharkyBait this is what I find really dreadful, what next knitting while watching the guillotine drop? It also has the potential to turn the perpetrator into a martyr. I actually do not know what they are trying to achieve by live streaming this.

It only has to happen once to your family member. Don't feel so immune and confident that any of your family couldn't " lose it" and be in that situation . The world just doesn't work like that . Killing people is WRONG however your dress it up or WHATEVER " authority" you hide behind to excuse your actions.

THIS !!!!

His supporters will absolutely use the live streaming to boost his status as celebrated martyr, and stoke the jihad.

Killing people isn't always wrong .you can kill in self defense

Are you not capable of seeing a problem in something unless it directly affects you? I think it happening once would indicate a fairly pressing concern, I mean it does have pretty serious consequences.