Crisis What Crisis? Is my friend over doing the stockpiling and am I too? Continuation thread (2)

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Continuation of the AIBU to think my friend is overdoing emergency stockpiling thread for discussion about the government advice to stockpile for an imminent emergency and what the heck that emergency might actually be.

I'm moving it over to chat from AIBU as it makes a bit more sense to be there at this point.

Previous thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5576816-aibu-to-think-my-friend-is-overdoing-emergency-stockpiling?page=1

Spoiler: it's more of a perfect storm of lots of factors coming together to potentially form one great clusterfuck from economic woes, global energy shortages (mainly diesel), potential food shortages, war and madmen to crazy weather patterns rather than a clear identifiable singular thread.

This is a practical thread and a bit of a handhold thread to make sense of events and how they may affect you. This is not an end of the world thread.

We are however going through a period where various governments throughout Europe think there is an elevated risk of some kind of problem due to global instability and we should start to get our heads around the possibility of needing to be ready for anything.

Remember an emergency can range from a temporary unexpected event to a much longer crisis but the underlying principles generally stay the same.

So this is for everything from tips and considerations about what might be a good idea to do /save minimise potential risks to just straight old political bollocks talk about how things are developing.

This is the official government information and advice, if you want further details on what the actual recommendations are:
https://prepare.campaign.gov.uk/get-prepared-for-emergencies/

This does actually explicitly say to write a personalised plan for your household which everyone knows and understands and to talk about the issues you may face to help you be able mobilise for any situation which might arise. Which is exactly what this thread is ultimately for.

Well there's this today.

I has felt quiet yesterday and today.

It feels like quiet before the storm given the crap coming out of Trumps mouth.

And there's this.

And I fear if I start looking again for stuff I'll find a whole pile more of crap. So I might not look too hard.

The World's Largest Crude Oil Processing and Stabilization Facility, in Abqaiq, Saudi Arabia, has been set Ablaze following Houthi Missile Strikes

Apparently.

See told you I could find a whole pile of shit to stress about if I looked.

The about combined with a shut down of oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico isn't going to help an already difficult situation.

Brett Eriksson AT BrettErikson28
BREAKING: A new Truth Social post by President Trump clearly seeks to calm the energy markets that are up nearly 4% today alone.

Interestingly, in direct contradiction to Barak Ravid’s Axios reporting yesterday, President Trump explicitly states that:
“We will not be attacking Iran at any time prior to the Midterm Elections”

This statement however should not be taken at face value in any way. President Trump is increasingly erratic, and it makes no sense whatsoever to make a statement such as this other than as a means of psychological warfare with Iran.

While it is highly likely that President Trump will not attack Iran before the midterms, purely due to the damage it could do in the elections, such a clear position would give Iran carte Blanche to escalate freely and aggressively, and would give them an open window to re-mine the Strait of Hormuz to include the Omani Route.

President Trump is trapped. If he doesn’t escalate, Iran has open season for the next month. If he does escalate, it will crush him at the midterms.

Why it's quiet. For now.

Urgh that's horrid! We do need a tiny amount of power for our biodigester tank but at least we can use batteries/generator to keep the pump working. Our old brick septic tank didn't need power at all. The thought of the municipal sewage works not functioning is awful. I hope there are contingency plans.

Russia’s Omsk Oil Refinery, the largest refinery in Russian, go bye bye.

Russian internet go bye bye too. Strikes on Yandex Data Centre and Cloud (Russian answer to Google). There are reports of problems accessing websites, online services, banks and media outlets.

Russia won't be happy.

What will Russia do in response?

You are some of the lucky ones!
Anyone who relies on mains drainage needs to have their own contingency plans.

And now my picture was approved. 😅

Edit; but can’t be seen here. Oh well.

What do you do if you have food intolerance problems where you can only eat fresh food? I have that and it makes it very hard to stock pile usefully, short of turning the garden into a farm and getting chickens. I don't think either of those would work very well. I can't eat wheat, dairy, eggs, or take vitamins. I can't go near LED lights. It's really makes stock piling incredibly impractical and going anywhere other than my house impossible. I think I'd be stuffed in an emergency tbh.

Can you eat lentils, frozen peas?

You could dehydrate foods you have cooked yourself?
Need to make sure you can rehydrate them of course

Exclusive: Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch and members of her shadow cabinet were among more than 100 high-profile figures named in a dossier discovered at the home of the man accused of murdering Ann Widdecombe, The i Paper can reveal.

Shadow foreign secretary Tom Tugendhat, and his immediate predecessor Priti Patel, who is a former Home Secretary, are also on the list found during a search of Joshua Kerry’s home.

The dossier is understood to contain the names of senior Reform figures, Independent MP Rosie Duffield, and a large number of former and serving MPs and peers, as well as potentially other prominent public figures.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/badenoch-list-found-home-widdecombe-suspect-4818324?srsltid=AU7gw4VSDsWMnGW8y2x_Np67e9sgT9yOyHviOiIFMTWPYCx9GRgbtBje

I should really make dinner and plan my holiday (should I be able to go on it!)

Al Jareeza English
Airlines under the Lufthansa Group will suspend flights to Riyadh through October 16 due to current developments in the Middle East, a spokesperson for the German company told Reuters news agency today.

Well that's hardly surprising given what the insurance premiums must be like for war coverage and given there's possibly no where to currently land and park up.

Maybe focus on a small rotating supply of foods you already tolerate, rather than traditional emergency foods like tind. Even two weeks worth is better than nothing.
Then prioritise water, candles and other essentials. Do you eat freshly frozen food?

Ive stocked up on cat, guinea pig and bird food, was fretting about it so feel happier now.

Is that recent? If so it’ll have an impact on prices generally.

Yes.

I’m sorry but did Andy really go I know googles been doing it a while but here you go. Google now shows you petrol prices to help you save money 😂😂😂 what a fucking 🔧🔧

Might as well just rearrange the deck chairs on the titanic. Idiot.

Wheres boris or rishi 😂😂 fucking google maps.

Next up after filling up your local food bank location will be displayed 😂😂😂🙄🙄

I'm sure some people think prepping is over the top but I've been thinking about it since covid.
not because of governments or weather but because for over a week I could barely walk 15ft without struggling to breathe (and I live alone)...it makes sense to have easy prep foods, wet wipes for washing, enough pet supplies, medications, etc in case you are ever really sick.

@henlake7 yes and have some supplies easy to each by your bed. Drinks ,medicine some snacks.

I honestly cant understand why more people aren't worried, some people are really oblivious

Yes he’s being ridiculed for that one on SM. Rightly so

I did the same with cinnamon! 😂

The war game tv show on sky/now tv is pretty terrifying. The speed at which it all escalates... I appreciate its' made for entertainment but I also think it's partly to prep us and inform us. They are really spoon-feeding the viewers with the lines like "Of course the government has a Prepare website" and "food in the shops will last 3 days if we are cut off from overseas supply chains".

Erm...