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Would you vote to re-join the EU in another referendum?

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GorgeousSpringtime · 01/10/2026 14:24

Simple question. If there is another referendum to re-join the EU, will you be voting to re-join?

This isn't to have a go at anyone who supported Brexit, or who supported Remain, it's just a quick straw poll. Thank you. Smile

If anyone is wondering, (or cares!) I think I will vote to re-join. (I won't say at this point what I voted for last time...)

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FlyingCatGirl · 04/10/2026 11:41

Pineneedlesincarpet · 04/10/2026 11:39

Gammon is a racist word though?

No it isn't an angry red faced Brexit voter! What's it got to do with any race! You lot dish out out and turn really pathetic when you get it back! The term is for a Brexit voter! Not a race!

Alternativelyviewed · 04/10/2026 11:44

@FlyingCatGirl as ever these things are never black and white there are thousand of eastern European still here in basic wage jobs .

EasternStandard · 04/10/2026 11:45

FlyingCatGirl · 04/10/2026 11:41

No it isn't an angry red faced Brexit voter! What's it got to do with any race! You lot dish out out and turn really pathetic when you get it back! The term is for a Brexit voter! Not a race!

Why any politician wants to get back to this level of debate and name calling idk. But it seems Burnham does.

It’s not easy though, especially when it comes to what can be opted out of or not.

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BurntBroccoli · 04/10/2026 11:47

Absolutely yes!

It was yes last time and will be again.

Brexit has brought this country nothing but division and hate. We are also poorer as a country by around £180 billion every year.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 04/10/2026 11:47

FlyingCatGirl · 04/10/2026 11:41

No it isn't an angry red faced Brexit voter! What's it got to do with any race! You lot dish out out and turn really pathetic when you get it back! The term is for a Brexit voter! Not a race!

Yes necessarily the voter has to be white to be able to be red faced. Or at least thats the image. Its quite racist so maybe don't use it would be my suggestion.

CoconutRumcake · 04/10/2026 11:50

FlyingCatGirl · 04/10/2026 11:41

No it isn't an angry red faced Brexit voter! What's it got to do with any race! You lot dish out out and turn really pathetic when you get it back! The term is for a Brexit voter! Not a race!

No it isn't an angry red faced Brexit voter! What's it got to do with any race!

You mention skin colour and then ask what it has to do with race. Amazing.

Clavinova · 04/10/2026 11:52

FlyingCatGirl · 04/10/2026 07:59

Let's cut through the waffle, more and more countries are joining the EU so there's no point pretending it's big, bad and nobody wants to be in it, nobody has left except us many countries are in the process of joining!

Very few of us want silly trade deals with the likes of Trump! He's deranged and unstable and we don't want American.food that's absolute garbage! It would be a minefield because it's severely ultra processed, full.of chemicals that are banned everywhere else and they get so many ecoli / listeria outbreaks. By the time it gets shipped here and tariffs paid to trump, you'll have dirty chemical filed £6 loaf of wonder bread sat on the shelves! Have you ever been to the west Indies and seen the high priced American crap on their supermarket shelves?

The EU has everything to offer us! Extra help and resources to tackle illegal immigration, freedom of movement, good supply of fresh, decent produce which we indisputably need with the issues of global climate change! We may need their help with fuel supplies if things get worse, it would bring the prices back down in the supermarket that have become shocking since Brexit, it'll give subsidies back to farming, give more fishing quotas to our fishing industry - how farms, sea food factories and chip shops have shut since Brexit! We'd have access back to EU workforce to fill those care vacancies back up because nobody rushed off benefits to fill those jobs after we kicked the EU workforce out! And the fact that Brexit created vacancies and told the wider world to apply is why illegals flocked here!

There are vast, vast amounts of reasons to be back in the EU, you writing an essay about how much you don't like the EU is meaningless and doesn't stop the population being fed up of the impacts of Brexit.

Very few of us want silly trade deals with the likes of Trump!

In fact, 73% of people in a survey last year would welcome a free trade deal with the United States - obviously less so if the deal involved chlorinated chicken.

it'll give subsidies back to farming

The EU is currently proposing cutting farming subsidies by 20-30%.

In addition, tens of thousands of farmers in France and Ireland were protesting earlier this year - against the EU's trade deal with the South American bloc, MERCOSUR.

give more fishing quotas to our fishing industry

Unlikely overall. The EU had to hand over 25% fishing quotas to us (UK waters) - wouldn't we have to hand those quotas back to the EU?

Alternativelyviewed · 04/10/2026 11:52

Clavinova · 04/10/2026 11:15

There are 4 million EU citizens in the country now, plus 400,000/500,000 non-EU family members who came with them - how many more do we need? Can the EU citizens receiving benefits work more hours to fill up some job vacancies?

We dont actually know the true figure as famously no one counted anyone in
We only started to realise the sheer volume when 2007 turned into a birth boom year when hospitals actually closed their door for women in labour because there was no room.
Remember bulge classes in school ? Classrooms built on play grounds ,panorama /meals on wheels pulled for translator money and eventually councils crying out for money because the offical head count didn't match the need on the ground .
I remember when the census came around and we had several unregulated hmos on our road where three bed homes where housing enourmous amounts of people with very little English working around the clock.
They tended to move on quite fast which caused social and community cohesian issues but it also meant there is no way anyone would pick up the census /read it and fill it out 😂.
Obvioulsly no tennant agreements !
Cash in hand payments and the doors were never locked.
So yes 4 million id view as a very cautious estimate..

BurntBroccoli · 04/10/2026 11:54

Ilovewhippets · 04/10/2026 11:28

Gammons?! I hope that racist sexist word is an autocorrect?

I’m surprised ‘gammons’ haven’t been mentioned already as it’s a favourite insult for leavers. All we need now is “not all brexiteers are racist but all racists are brexiteers”.

Gammon is not racist!

It is in relation to political right wing views rather than someone’s race or ethnicity.

The fact that you think it’s racist diminishes what true racism is all about.

Alternativelyviewed · 04/10/2026 11:55

BurntBroccoli · 04/10/2026 11:47

Absolutely yes!

It was yes last time and will be again.

Brexit has brought this country nothing but division and hate. We are also poorer as a country by around £180 billion every year.

Blair brought us division and hate by flooding our country without our permission causing effects on every aspect of life and has made us sadly more introverted.

If he has waited like the other places we may not have had Brexit.

EasternStandard · 04/10/2026 12:02

Alternativelyviewed · 04/10/2026 11:55

Blair brought us division and hate by flooding our country without our permission causing effects on every aspect of life and has made us sadly more introverted.

If he has waited like the other places we may not have had Brexit.

The rub their noses in diversity strategy was a big mistake. Deliberately winding up a large section of the electorate isn’t going to pan out well.

askmenow · 04/10/2026 12:06

Holsareovertooquickly22929eee · 01/10/2026 14:24

Yes 1000000%

So you just like to hand over our money to unelected shysters running two parallel sites.

Really! Tell me you’re a civil servant 😂😂

CoconutRumcake · 04/10/2026 12:06

BurntBroccoli · 04/10/2026 11:54

Gammon is not racist!

It is in relation to political right wing views rather than someone’s race or ethnicity.

The fact that you think it’s racist diminishes what true racism is all about.

It’s a slur based on someone’s skin colour, I don’t think anyone is too bothered by it but it’s a bit hypocritical considering it’s usually coming from self righteous people accusing others of xenophobia and racism.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 04/10/2026 12:07

BurntBroccoli · 04/10/2026 11:54

Gammon is not racist!

It is in relation to political right wing views rather than someone’s race or ethnicity.

The fact that you think it’s racist diminishes what true racism is all about.

Gammon relates to an angry red faced (therefore white skinned) right wing British voter. It is racist as it is deingrating a certain type of person by singling out people with a particular skin colour.

Unfortunately we are in the UK in 2026. Everything is racist.

Newbutoldfather · 04/10/2026 12:14

@Pineneedlesincarpet ,

Gammon is only used about white middle class middle aged men.

You could not imagine a black person, a young person or a female (well, less so, anyway) being called a gammon.

It is racist. More importantly, it is telling someone their view isn’t considered valid because of who they are rather than what they are saying.

Once insults are resorted to, it’s not really a rational discussion any more.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 04/10/2026 12:16

Newbutoldfather · 04/10/2026 12:14

@Pineneedlesincarpet ,

Gammon is only used about white middle class middle aged men.

You could not imagine a black person, a young person or a female (well, less so, anyway) being called a gammon.

It is racist. More importantly, it is telling someone their view isn’t considered valid because of who they are rather than what they are saying.

Once insults are resorted to, it’s not really a rational discussion any more.

Exactly

EasternStandard · 04/10/2026 12:16

Newbutoldfather · 04/10/2026 12:14

@Pineneedlesincarpet ,

Gammon is only used about white middle class middle aged men.

You could not imagine a black person, a young person or a female (well, less so, anyway) being called a gammon.

It is racist. More importantly, it is telling someone their view isn’t considered valid because of who they are rather than what they are saying.

Once insults are resorted to, it’s not really a rational discussion any more.

Clearly Burnham thought we were getting on too well and the use of gammon needed to flood SM again.

Newbutoldfather · 04/10/2026 12:29

@EasternStandard .

I am not sure he should have gone as far as mentioning EU membership. However we were crazy to exit the single market.

It cost us £50-60bio. If Burnham can get the IFS to price in rejoining, it will give him a lot more fiscal headroom in future budgets.

SevenYellowHammers · 04/10/2026 12:30

Ilovewhippets · 04/10/2026 09:51

Islamophobia and antisemitism on the rise

@SevenYellowHammers why did leaving the EU cause Islamophobia and antisemitism to rise?

It legitimised hate

EasternStandard · 04/10/2026 12:44

Newbutoldfather · 04/10/2026 12:29

@EasternStandard .

I am not sure he should have gone as far as mentioning EU membership. However we were crazy to exit the single market.

It cost us £50-60bio. If Burnham can get the IFS to price in rejoining, it will give him a lot more fiscal headroom in future budgets.

This led to a few questions as I’m surprised fiscal headroom for a post GE outcome that is not certain can be used for budgets prior to it.

This came up on OBR v IFS.

No, Labour cannot use the flexible IFS projections over the fixed OBR data when delivering pre-election budgets.
While think tanks like the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) offer valuable, flexible forecasting tools, the Chancellor is legally restricted during formal budget processes. 1]
There are several structural and legal reasons why the Labour government must stick to the "fixed" OBR framework for official fiscal events:

  1. The Legal Framework
Under the Budget Responsibility and National Audit Act 2011, the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR)is the only statutory body legally mandated to examine and report on the sustainability of the UK's public finances. A Chancellor cannot substitute the OBR's baseline figures with data from an external private think tank like the IFS when presenting an official Budget to Parliament

Fiscal risks and sustainability – July 2026 - Office for Budget Responsibility

The latest update of our assessment of fiscal risks and sustainability was published in our Fiscal risks and sustainability report. Read the Executive summary for the key points from our analysis or the full report below. Chapter 2 explores long-term e...

https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAESdQHrOzAVMIP4ovJ1_xrzb-mfIpvZWUAO_HZbvqSJ5NkKxXlz39IPERKUbbro1f0YryF4-WlrV1X2bJPAwsd4Dz5SKk1hZAPVYXMolD6Tdidl3W2CHyAOjMY3cNGE8xnMBf3jinVhPrk6vLTQvg_FyublDQccdA

SevenYellowHammers · 04/10/2026 12:47

EasternStandard · 04/10/2026 10:59

Why do you think the EU solves this?

Germany has the highest number of undocumented migrants.

Germany has the highest number but there are other EU countries (both Island and landlocked) that have proportionally more. Germany is attractive due to its economy and number of refugees already there. Germany has taken quite big numbers of migrant workers for some time.

In terms of what EU membership would offer us in terms of undocumented arrivals, I do believe it would afford us a shared agreement and procedures. I understand use of fingerprinting across EU is being rolled out to combat it also. I am going to say that I think the treatment and processing of asylum seekers and economic migrants in Europe should be better. At the time of the referendum I was disappointed with the EU’s response and would hope it could be better if we rejoined. Overall though, it makes sense to have a coordinated and shared response to undocumented migration. It’s not ever going to be easy.

LongDarkTeatime · 04/10/2026 12:50

EasternStandard · 04/10/2026 11:18

No that’s your post. I’m interested in the economic reality of adopting the euro and the impact on mortgages and pensions for a start.

Guessing it would help to stabilise and maybe even adopt the 25yr model.
Can you give refs to economists opinions on this? It would be interest to see.
Obviously we wouldn’t be able to regain the power and jobs which were soared away with Brexit. But as Europe are openly welcoming us (with Russia ascendant and happy their backing of Brexit worked) it would be interesting to know what the deal would include.

Newbutoldfather · 04/10/2026 13:08

@EasternStandard ,

Thank you for that.

The OBR could take it into account were it to become a more concrete and specific policy.

The OBR would model the structural impact neutrally: If a government officially initiated the process to re-enter the Single Market, the OBR would adjust its structural economic assumptions. Because the OBR previously calculated that leaving the EU reduced the UK's long-term potential GDP by roughly 4%, it would logically reverse parts of that model—factoring in reduced trade friction, changes to net migration, and productivity shifts. 1, 2, 3]

‘The growth strategy no one will say out loud: rejoin the European Union’ – LabourList

Last week, a two-day seminar bringing together center-left participants from both Britain and the EU, including Labour MPs and party officials, MEPs, think tankers, academics…

https://labourlist.org/2025/07/uk-rejoin-european-union-growth-strategy/

EasternStandard · 04/10/2026 13:13

Newbutoldfather · 04/10/2026 13:08

@EasternStandard ,

Thank you for that.

The OBR could take it into account were it to become a more concrete and specific policy.

The OBR would model the structural impact neutrally: If a government officially initiated the process to re-enter the Single Market, the OBR would adjust its structural economic assumptions. Because the OBR previously calculated that leaving the EU reduced the UK's long-term potential GDP by roughly 4%, it would logically reverse parts of that model—factoring in reduced trade friction, changes to net migration, and productivity shifts. 1, 2, 3]

Yes but first to get it as a concrete policy and part of fiscal headroom Burnham needs the mandate, ie a win at the GE.

He won’t go for the single market without a GE. So headroom is only a post GE change.

Alternativelyviewed · 04/10/2026 13:16

EasternStandard · 04/10/2026 11:45

Why any politician wants to get back to this level of debate and name calling idk. But it seems Burnham does.

It’s not easy though, especially when it comes to what can be opted out of or not.

Our problems and the winter we are facing need urgent action and instead of putting us first and getting on with the permits for the oil fields it's all about rejoing a failed experiment !

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