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Spandauer · 29/09/2026 19:01

Mid-terms looming, approval falling, prices rising, wars ongoing - Ping Ping and Fu Shuang must be wondering what heinous crime they committed to be banished chosen as envoys of friendship between China and USA. 🐼🐼

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RedTagAlan · 17/10/2026 04:17

AcrossthePond55 · 17/10/2026 03:51

@RedTagAlan

That actually made me queasy.🤢

Thanks for spoiling my bedtime milk and biscuits. 😉

Remember. There was a UFO sighting in New Jersey in June 1946. So that transcript is going into my Bacofoil covered file that I keep in my Faraday cage that I hide at the back of the wardrobe.

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Cookingdoesntgettougher · 17/10/2026 07:27

So wish Pope Leo wasn’t in hospital and could respond to that. I wouldn’t be surprised if various other church leaders do on Sunday. It’s amazing how specific a sermon can be even when no name is mentioned.

CaveMum · 17/10/2026 07:55

Today’s HC-R

October 16, 2026 (Friday)

Trump’s new pick for White House press secretary lasted less than five days. Katie Zacharia resigned today after a series of disastrous performances and news that she had misrepresented her legal credentials. Trump said he would let her decide if she wanted to stay but added that if he were in her shoes, he would “reconsider.”

Wags noted that the time unit of a Scaramucci—named for the White House communications director who lasted only 11 days during Trump’s first term and used to identify an official whose stay in public office has been exceedingly brief—has been replaced by the Zacharia.

Yesterday morning, Trump posted on social media that the execution of Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 people and injured 32 others at Fort Hood in 2009, will not be livestreamed. As Amy B. Wang and Alauna Safarpour of the Washington Post reported yesterday, 80% of Americans opposed livestreaming the execution to the public.

A poll by the Washington Post, ABC News, and Ipsos showed that the only demographic polled in which a majority wanted a livestream of the execution was MAGA Republican men, of whom 57% wanted the event livestreamed and 42% were opposed. Veterans, Democrats, non-MAGA Republicans, Independents, and MAGA Republican women all opposed the livestream by overwhelming amounts.

And so, the chaos of Trump’s MAGA administration continues.

Chaos continues as well in Trump’s approach to Ukraine, and it has a deadly pattern.

After SpaceX debilitated Ukraine’s military defenses on October 14, in the midst of one of the heaviest Russian bombardments of the war, by slowing down the speed of Ukraine’s Starlink terminals and the Starshield system that Ukraine’s military uses, Elon Musk, who owns SpaceX, and Trump, who controls Starshield, each blamed the other for the slowdown.

Yesterday, Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), the top-ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, led a bipartisan group of nine senators demanding answers from Platte Moring, the inspector general of the Department of Defense.

Noting that the slowdown meant that “U.S. diplomatic, military, and security personnel were unable to reach designated bunkers during Russian air raids,” they asked “[w]hether any Department of Defense or other U.S. government officials directed, authorized, approved, or had advance knowledge of changes to intelligence-sharing arrangements, warning capabilities, or Starlink and Starshield services affecting Ukraine.”

They also asked if the slowdown was a policy decision or a contractor action, whether U.S. personnel received adequate warning, and whether “any restrictions on Starlink or Starshield services were directed, authorized, or implemented by SpaceX, the Department of Defense, or other U.S. government entities.” They also wanted to hear exactly what “immediate corrective measures are being implemented” to make sure such a crisis doesn’t happen again.

Today Trump told reporters that neither he nor Musk had caused the shortage. “I didn’t do that. No, we didn’t do that at all. In fact, I don’t even think it was slowed down, from what I understood. Because I just checked this morning.” He continued: “I heard about it from the news, the media. And we didn’t slow it down at all. And I think it’s probably functioning, from what I understand.” When a reporter asked if Musk had had anything to do with the slowdown, Trump said: “I don’t know if it was anybody, because it wasn’t me, and I don’t think it was Elon, and from what I understand, it’s the same as it’s always been.”

Joe Barnes of The Telegraph reported today that according to four sources familiar with the discussions over the issue, as well as “[a] high-ranking European official and two “well-placed Ukrainian sources,” it was Musk who approached Trump with the idea of slowing down the Starlink systems in Ukraine, and Trump agreed. But, according to Barnes, the outcry over Russia’s destructive attacks that night made Musk worry that European customers might turn against him, as indeed they warned him on social media.

A source told Barnes: “He tweeted out that he was innocent and that it was the US administration that did it. The reality is that they were both in it.”

Meanwhile, Theodore Schleifer of the New York Times reported today that Musk donated $158 million in September alone to a super PAC that immediately sent $158 million to back Ken Paxton’s campaign to become the next U.S. senator from Texas instead of Democratic candidate James Talarico. Musk donated an additional $10 million to a different pro-Paxton super PAC, as well.

Musk’s huge donations have kept the unpopular Paxton financially competitive with Talarico. Paxton is currently the Texas attorney general, responsible for the few state regulations concerning SpaceX and Musk’s more than 90 other companies and other legal entities in Texas.

Trump has clearly decided his own personal interests require bringing the United States to the rescue of Russia’s president Vladimir Putin. Just a week ago, he announced he was waiving sanctions to allow Russia to sell diesel on the global market, funneling money to Putin to continue his war on Ukraine.

Tonight, in a late Friday night news dump, Trump signed an executive order waiving yet more sanctions on Russia that would have gone into effect in two days under the Lindsey O. Graham Sanctioning Russia and Iran Act of 2026. The president wrote that waiving those sanctions is “in the national interests of the United States,” although he did not specify why.

Congress passed the Graham Act just weeks ago, making clear that it expected stronger measures against Russia. Trump signed the law but is doing the opposite of Congress’s intent. Representative Don Beyer (D-VA) posted: “Trump’s latest surrender to Putin again betrays our Ukrainian partners and defies clear congressional intent of legislation designed to punish Russia for its illegal war of aggression.”

Like Putin, Trump has been determined to sow confusion and fear over the midterm elections, likely hoping to depress voter turnout and destroy faith in the outcome. Central to that is Trump’s insistence that noncitizens are swinging elections against him, even though experts across the political spectrum agree that voting by noncitizens is both illegal and exceedingly rare.

Jacob Bogage and Andrew Goudsward of Reuters reported on October 13 that after losing 26 of its lawsuits designed to get access to state voter rolls and winning none, the Department of Justice gave California officials just two days to review a list of 20,000 people it suspects are not citizens but may have received mail-in ballots for the midterm election. The DOJ sent along a thumb drive that it said identified those voters.

California officials did not do as the DOJ demanded, saying the scheme had no legal basis. Sarah N. Lynch of CBS News reported that Dean Logan, the registrar-recorder/county clerk of Los Angeles County, said his office would not open the thumb drive “because doing so would conflict with established data privacy and information security protocols.” He added: “Federal and state laws are clear on how voter eligibility is established—and any action to remove a voter from eligibility must be based on verifiable information, not assertions of unconfirmed data matching.”

Yesterday Alanna Durkin Richer, Sophie Austin, and Safiyah Riddle of the Associated Press reported that the administration is escalating its threats, suing election officials in California and asking a judge to stop the state from counting mail-in ballots from people the administration claims aren’t citizens until their citizenship has been verified.

Today Juhi Doshi, Alexander Mallin, Luke Barr, and Lucien Bruggeman of ABC News reported that the administration is now threatening criminal prosecution for election workers who knowingly count ballots filled out by noncitizens. Trump added on social media: “They will all go to jail for a long period of time!!!”

According to the ABC News journalists, “Experts overwhelmingly agree the lawsuit is unlikely to succeed. But they fear the consequences of publicly calling election outcomes into question could damage confidence in democracy.”

That concern is behind the No Kings events taking place across the country on Saturday, October 17. While earlier No Kings events emphasized protest and solidarity, tomorrow’s will be about “nonpartisan voter participation, being in community with each other, and making sure every eligible voter has a plan, knows their options, and is ready to make their voice count.”

The organizers remind Americans: “Our democracy depends on every eligible voter having the freedom to participate without intimidation, interference, or barriers.”

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CaveMum · 17/10/2026 08:32

From a Mighty Girl on Facebook:

When Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth fired Vice Admiral Nancy Lacore and ended her 35-year Navy career last summer, he offered no explanation. He also, without meaning to, launched her new political career. Now, three weeks from Election Day, Lacore is running dead even and in the most recent poll, even slightly ahead in a South Carolina district Trump won by more than thirteen points, a seat Republicans had gerrymandered to be unloseable.

That early-October poll put her three points up on her Republican opponent Jenny Costa Honeycutt -- turning what was supposed to be a safe Republican hold into one of the midterm's most competitive races. National Republicans have been scrambling to protect a seat they never thought they'd have to defend: outside GOP groups have poured seven figures into the district, including hundreds of thousands of dollars in ads attacking Lacore.

The contrast between the two women was on sharp display at their first debate in early October. Asked what they would do for women if elected, Honeycutt said she would "encourage them to eat better." Lacore's reply: "make childcare more affordable."

"This campaign has always been about earning support across the Lowcountry and proving that voters are ready for a new kind of leadership," Lacore said after her runoff win in late June. "We're building a broad coalition focused on lowering costs, protecting our freedoms, and delivering results for South Carolina families." Speaking to supporters in Mount Pleasant, she framed the victory as just the beginning -- a movement built for voters of every party who value integrity.

"After decades of service to our country, a career that started as a Navy pilot and finished as a three-star admiral, I was removed from my position without cause," Lacore declared in her campaign announcement. "I still have more to give, more to fight for, more work to do -- and I am not done serving."

As she told Reserve & National Guard Magazine, "I spent 35 years defending the Constitution and upholding the rights and freedoms that are in it. I'm concerned that is at risk right now."

Lacore is a trailblazer in every sense: a Navy veteran who began her career as a helicopter pilot and rose to become a three-star admiral and the 16th Chief of the Navy Reserve, where she led more than 60,000 sailors. A native of Albany, New York, she followed in her father's footsteps by accepting an ROTC scholarship to the College of the Holy Cross, earning her naval aviator wings in 1993.

Over three and a half decades, she accumulated approximately 1,300 flight hours in military aircraft, deployed to Afghanistan in 2011, commanded Camp Lemonnier in Djibouti, and served as the 93rd Commandant of Naval District Washington before ascending to lead the Navy Reserve. Her awards include the Legion of Merit, Defense Meritorious Service Medal, four Meritorious Service Medals, and four Navy Commendation Medals.

Her firing on August 22, 2025 exactly one year after taking command of the Navy Reserve came alongside Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Kruse, who led the Defense Intelligence Agency, and Rear Adm. Milton Sands, who commanded the Navy SEALs. The Pentagon offered no explanation for her dismissal -- the same lack of transparency Hegseth has shown in firing dozens of America's most senior military leaders, some citing only a vague "loss of confidence."

Ironically, this unprecedented purge has been conducted by the least qualified Defense Secretary in modern history -- a former Fox News TV host with no senior military command experience, no experience managing large organizations, and no previous government service at any level.

This systematic dismantling of military leadership has alarmed national security experts across the political spectrum. Five former defense secretaries including retired Gen. Jim Mattis, Trump's own first defense secretary condemned the firings as "reckless" in a joint letter to Congress, asking for "immediate hearings to assess the national security implications" of the dismissals. Former National Security Council member Kori Schake, a George W. Bush adviser, said the Trump administration is "squandering an enormous amount of talent."

In Lacore's case, her extensive military record and broader community service show the high caliber of leader that Hegseth has dismissed without cause. After returning from Afghanistan in 2012, she visited the Women in Military Service for America Memorial for the first time and found herself paging through a book devoted to the stories of women who died in Iraq and Afghanistan -- and realized that even after 24 years in the Navy and her own deployment to a war zone, she had no idea how many women had been killed.

"As a woman who had just served in Afghanistan, I really had no idea who had been killed, how many, what services," she said. "And so, I was like, 'You know what, I can do something about this.'"

So she did. In 2014, Lacore founded Valor Run, running 160 miles in 160 hours one mile for each of the 160 American servicewomen who died in Iraq and Afghanistan from Chesapeake, Virginia to the Women's Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery, raising $33,000 for military charities.

"It's not about me running," she said at the time. "It's about the people coming together and recognizing all the women who have died." The nonprofit ran for ten years, awarding more than $30,000 in scholarships to children whose mothers served in those wars.

Lacore's campaign is centered on putting people first affordability, opportunity, and honoring service. "Hard work should result in a stable life," she said. "Americans deserve a lower cost of living housing, healthcare, childcare, and daily essentials -- so families, seniors, veterans, and young Americans can build secure futures." With four of her six children now in the workforce, she knows the challenges young people, in particular, are facing firsthand.

The fall race will be a steep climb by design. South Carolina's 1st District, which includes Charleston, Beaufort, and the surrounding Lowcountry, was redrawn by Republican lawmakers in 2021 to be far more reliably Republican. A federal three-judge panel unanimously found that the new map was a racial gerrymander, ruling that mapmakers had moved tens of thousands of Black voters out of the district the panel said the plan had "bleached" Black voters out of the seat and made a "mockery" of traditional districting principles. In 2024, the U.S. Supreme Court reversed that finding in a 6-3 decision split along ideological lines, allowing the map to stand. Mace went on to win re-election by double digits under those lines, and Trump carried the district by 13 points in 2024.

But Democrats see Lacore as a uniquely strong candidate for difficult terrain. She has proven to be a prolific fundraiser, raising $500,000 in her first two weeks and more than $2.3 million by the fall, and she's one of just 12 House candidates nationwide this cycle backed by the Bench, a group led by veteran Democratic strategists that recruits and advises contenders in both battleground districts and races seen as harder to win. Combined with the backing of veterans' groups like VoteVets, it's a bet that her record and her story can reach across party lines in a way a typical challenger couldn't.

Nancy Lacore a decorated combat veteran, a three-star admiral, a mother of six, and the founder of a nonprofit to honor fallen servicewomen may be exactly that candidate. As she declared: "I've served my whole life, and I'm not done yet."

To learn more about Nancy Lacore's campaign, visit https://www.nancylacore.com/

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Spandauer · 17/10/2026 08:39

So did the 🍊💩 dictate that drivel? Or is it Bunny Boiler Nanny Nats' tiny manicured talons tapping out the bilge for decrepit Donny's approval?

Meanwhile he makes the Ukrainian people suffer even more.

Once more with feeling...

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Llttledrummergirl · 17/10/2026 10:06

RedTagAlan · 17/10/2026 03:07

I took one for the team :-)

Trump put a vid out on his TRUTH SOCIAL yesterday. It's a vid montage of him "in action". And the site I got it from, the vid actually played. And I transcribed the subtitles to post here. Exactly as they are in the vid.

Why is that taking one for the team? Well, see what it says.

"And on June 14th 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, I need a caretaker. So God gave us Trump.

God said, I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, fix this country, fight the Marxists, eat supper, then go to the Oval office and stay past midnight at a meeting of heads of state, so God made Trump. I need somebody with arms, strong enough to rustle the deep state, and yet gentle enough to deliver his own grandchild. Somebody to ruffle the feathers, tame cantankerous World Economic Forum, come home hungry, have to wait until the first lady is done with lunch with friends, then tell the ladies to be sure and come back real soon. And mean it.

So God gave us Trump.

I need somebody shape an axe but weild a sword, who had the courage to step foot in North Korea, who van make money from the tar of the sand, turn liquid to gold, who understands the difference between tariffs and inflation, will finish his forty hour week by Tuesday noon, but then put in another seventy two hours.

So God made Trump.

God had somebody willing to go into the den of vipers, call out the fake news for their tongues as sharp as a serpent’s. The poison of vipers is on their lips, and yet stop.

So God made Trump.

God said, I need someone who will be strong and courageous, who will not be afraid of the wolves when they attack. A man who cares for the flock, a shepherd to mankind who won’t ever leave or forsake them. I need the most diligent worker to follow the path and remain strong in faith, and know the belief of God and country, who is willing to drill, bring back manufacturing and American jobs, farm the lands, secure our borders, build our military, fight the system all day, and finish a hard week’s work by attending church on Sunday. And then his oldest son turns and says, dad, let’s make America great again. Dad, lets build back a country, to be the envy of the world again.

So God made Trump."

Wowser. There are no words for this absolute batshit lunacy.

Fuck.

LizzieW1969 · 17/10/2026 10:30

I'm absolutely disgusted at the way he acts like he’s in the place of Jesus. But it's probably demonstrating just how insane he is becoming. It's really scary where this might lead.

Spandauer · 17/10/2026 10:40

RedTagAlan · 17/10/2026 04:17

Remember. There was a UFO sighting in New Jersey in June 1946. So that transcript is going into my Bacofoil covered file that I keep in my Faraday cage that I hide at the back of the wardrobe.

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I don't know if you have a cat but I'm reminded of this photo.

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TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 17/10/2026 10:53

I've been thinking about the phenomenon of insane leaders and how difficult it is for sanity to prevail and for them to be removed from office. There was Robert Mugabe of course, I long maintained that he had dementia in his later years but there was no admittance of it by anyone official.
And there was Boris Yeltsin, who was famously alcoholic and out of control. He was replaced by one Vladimir Putin. While I was down this rabbit hole I discovered that Yeltsin's wife is still alive, she's 94, and Putin sent her birthday wishes this year and presumably does every year. In 2017 she published her autobiography, which has presumably not been published in the West.

Anyhoo, they're very hard to get rid of these mad men with power.

placemats · 17/10/2026 11:17

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 17/10/2026 10:53

I've been thinking about the phenomenon of insane leaders and how difficult it is for sanity to prevail and for them to be removed from office. There was Robert Mugabe of course, I long maintained that he had dementia in his later years but there was no admittance of it by anyone official.
And there was Boris Yeltsin, who was famously alcoholic and out of control. He was replaced by one Vladimir Putin. While I was down this rabbit hole I discovered that Yeltsin's wife is still alive, she's 94, and Putin sent her birthday wishes this year and presumably does every year. In 2017 she published her autobiography, which has presumably not been published in the West.

Anyhoo, they're very hard to get rid of these mad men with power.

My uncle told me a story about Boris Yeltsin when he visited Birmingham. It involved alcohol induced sleeping and an overflowing bath in the hotel. The damage was extensive.

Eta: G8 summit 1998 in Birmingham. Also he took ages to leave the plane at Shannon Airport. Not sure about the year that was.

Persephonia1966 · 17/10/2026 11:25

Spandauer · 17/10/2026 08:39

So did the 🍊💩 dictate that drivel? Or is it Bunny Boiler Nanny Nats' tiny manicured talons tapping out the bilge for decrepit Donny's approval?

Meanwhile he makes the Ukrainian people suffer even more.

Once more with feeling...

I like that among all the Jesus imagery you get the peevish
come home hungry, have to wait until the first lady is done with lunch with friends
I am sure she would be fine with Donald eating separately. Actually it would make sense if it was written by Nats.

SerendipityJane · 17/10/2026 12:07

I've been thinking about the phenomenon of insane leaders and how difficult it is for sanity to prevail and for them to be removed from office.

Given that the whole bollocks about the US was that it was created to avoid this tyranny - and they haven't shut the fuck up about it since - I don't blame the rest of the world for wanting an apology for 250 years of arrogance.

Turns our you were supposed to read the constitution, not just use it aas wrapping paper. Who knew ?

placemats · 17/10/2026 13:20

Does Duck know?

RedTagAlan · 17/10/2026 13:43

placemats · 17/10/2026 13:20

Does Duck know?

Ach, Don has 5 of them.

Or he did have 5. Three were revoked, so he just has his two from Liberty University.

"Honorary degrees
Liberty University – Doctor of Business Administration (2012)

  • Liberty University – Doctor of Laws (2017)
Revoked

Robert Gordon University – Doctor of Business Administration (conferred 2010; revoked 2015)
Lehigh University – Doctor of Laws (conferred 1988; revoked 2021)
Wagner College – Doctor of Humane Letters (conferred 2004; rescinded 2021)"

Obama has 16. None revoked. And none from Liberty.

List of awards and honors received by Barack Obama - Reference.org

SerendipityJane · 17/10/2026 14:05

One for overseas readers who might miss it in their current location

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iwishitwouldstartraining · 17/10/2026 14:38

come home hungry, have to wait until the first lady is done with lunch with friends, then tell the ladies to be sure and come back real soon. And mean it.

I'm confused here - in this fantasy, is she somewhere near the White House?

BustingBaoBun · 17/10/2026 15:43

placemats · 17/10/2026 11:17

My uncle told me a story about Boris Yeltsin when he visited Birmingham. It involved alcohol induced sleeping and an overflowing bath in the hotel. The damage was extensive.

Eta: G8 summit 1998 in Birmingham. Also he took ages to leave the plane at Shannon Airport. Not sure about the year that was.

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Interesting you talk of Boris Yeltsin. I remember him distinctly and Trump is very similar on a stage. Impromptu dancing, grinning, talking complete BS, ignoring any sort of protocol.
Yeltsin was of course an alcoholic but also his on stage displays were covering up health issues. He danced just like Trump too

SerendipityJane · 17/10/2026 16:45

BustingBaoBun · 17/10/2026 15:43

Interesting you talk of Boris Yeltsin. I remember him distinctly and Trump is very similar on a stage. Impromptu dancing, grinning, talking complete BS, ignoring any sort of protocol.
Yeltsin was of course an alcoholic but also his on stage displays were covering up health issues. He danced just like Trump too

I remember Yeltsin standing in front of a tank.

Say what you will about the man that took cojones.

It's frankly offensive to compare Trump to him - although I can see the joke.

Echobelly · 17/10/2026 19:00

SerendipityJane · 17/10/2026 12:07

I've been thinking about the phenomenon of insane leaders and how difficult it is for sanity to prevail and for them to be removed from office.

Given that the whole bollocks about the US was that it was created to avoid this tyranny - and they haven't shut the fuck up about it since - I don't blame the rest of the world for wanting an apology for 250 years of arrogance.

Turns our you were supposed to read the constitution, not just use it aas wrapping paper. Who knew ?

I was wildly unsurprised that the men with guns 'in case a tyrant comes to power' immediately sided with the tyrant when he wished to overturn everyone else's democratic rights.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/10/2026 19:08

and failed to realise he was overturning theirs as well.

DuncinToffee · 17/10/2026 21:37

No Kings Day

and Meta suddenly suspended the No Kings Instagram account in the middle of the No Kings' national day of action.

https://bsky.app/profile/headquartersnews.bsky.social/post/3my3ryva3ok2o

JoannCourcyIveGotThePowerNSoul · 17/10/2026 21:41

DuncinToffee · 17/10/2026 21:37

No Kings Day

and Meta suddenly suspended the No Kings Instagram account in the middle of the No Kings' national day of action.

https://bsky.app/profile/headquartersnews.bsky.social/post/3my3ryva3ok2o

Says it all
Free speech in the land of the free.

Spandauer · 17/10/2026 22:58

Stable genius is a senile geriatric.
(Apols to senile geriatrics)

atlantablackstar.com/2026/10/17/trump-walks-right-past-the-beasts-open-door-toward-an-empty-field-before-secret-service-steps-in-sending-viewers-into-a-frenzy/

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