Labour isn't Working - Thread 41

[Nuthatch26]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Yes they are very sweet. Made my teeth ache.

I've always wondered what your name referenced, now I know. It was like a light bulb moment. 😂

I don’t think I thought about it that much when choosing a u/n I was getting so much heat off various ahem invested quarters when I n/c, it still surprises me when I see it when we go out and it’s on the menu.

@Nuthatch26 hugs if wanted xx

An Iron dome type system is needed lo g term but Israel is about the size of Wales much easier to shield most the state. The UK will be quite a challenge and like everything else the costs will go up before it is even finished. Saying all that it is still a sensible idea because of the way world politics has been going. We are currently rather like a sitting duck if things were to kick off badly.

There are many other areas of are defence that need to be thought about in a logical manner and heavy investment too.

@Neverstopwondering Agree. I like the idea, and its good to hear some fresh thinking. We need to get serious about defence. Labour just want to brush it under the carpet and spend on their pet projects.

So sorry Nuthatch 🌺

This French stuff seems to be intensifying rather than easing, and has spread to Belgium.
The Guardian, rather hilariously, quotes "heavy-handed" policing complaints. Clearly not that heavy-handed if they're all still at it.

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You've got posters on the French thread praising the kids!! All updates sucked up from the Guardian.

I shouldn't be surprised, really.
But honestly - they look at this and think it's jolly good stuff?

https://x.com/koshercockney/status/2107531734656938137

Most people I have seen posting stuff are complaining the police are not being heavy handed enough

France has for years had some very violent clashes and riots. Lots of setting fire to cars or monuments etc. However this is rather different. There is a bigger lack of concern for human life and other people's property than their normal protests.

Social media and bad faith actors have obviously been winding things up plus the internet has numbed them to violence and any moral reaction to what they are doing.

Surely they are also thugs?
Or is that label reserved for a particular demographic on mn?

Social media and bad faith actors have obviously been winding things up plus the internet has numbed them to violence and any moral reaction to what they are doing.

There's going to be deaths at this rate.

No, no, thise are children. Even the 40-something year olds.

The fact that this is a parenting site is rather scary sometimes

No wonder some kids are lacking in basic human kindness and don't know how to handle themselves appropriately by the time they reach secondary school

I've missed most of the stuff on France today. What I can see on msm, and what I can see on SM look very different.

Ah I see 🙄

If it was one of my kids out there would have been already!

I gave them life so can take it away!

(JOKING, probably)

I am so sorry about your Mum Nuthatch.

I can't believe all the people say that because it can't cover every inch of the UK it would be better not to have a system at all.

Sending much love @Nuthatch26 💐🙏

At @EasternStandard , I always thought you might be from the US East Coast! 😂

Agree. Surely you start with key infrastructure and the most densely populated areas and keep building out as fast as you can.

Ha ik I would change it as that crops up but can’t be bothered.

I was reading an interesting article on French debt and these two paragraphs stood out

To the extent that any ECB rescue of France is a fiscal bailout, it is a transfer of money by German, Dutch or Finnish taxpayers still working in their late 60s to more affluent French pensioners in their early 60s.

France and Germany both had public debt ratios near 60pc of GDP in 2007. It is what made monetary union viable. Today, Germany is still near 60pc while France has doubled to 120pc and is on its way to 140pc. That divergence of the EU’s two core economies is the widening structural crack in the euro edifice

You can see why they are in this position looking at posts on here. So many just won’t accept there’s no more to pay for this.