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School asking for flight details after unauthorised term-time absence abroad

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PersonalData · 20/09/2026 17:19

We went abroad mon-thu last week, ds (10) was in school the week before and went back on Friday. We let them know and obviously knew it would be unauthorised. As it was 8 sessions we don’t qualify for a fine. His attendance is usually 100%.

They asked on friday before and after for us to provide proof of the flights and other details for ‘safeguarding’ but he was back in school and clearly fine ?? We declined as this is private personal data. They replied back that we must submit the evidence by the end of tomorrow?

Is this usual ?

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C8H10N4O2 · 20/09/2026 21:13

legallyblond · 20/09/2026 17:49

OP I am married to a teacher and it’s sadly very common for abused children to be away from school for a “holiday”, or “visit family” when in fact the period was required for marks etc to heal from abuse. They absolutely need to know that you went away and to be able to prove it. Obviously it’s fine here, but many abused children are “fine!” after their “holiday”. The school is doing the right thing (yes it’s required), and doing it well. Don’t be an idiot about it.

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How many of those parents give advanced notice of the absence with dates?

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:13

Surprisinglynice · 20/09/2026 17:27

If you were away - you literally could not take your child to school

If you weren’t away… safeguarding would kick in

And what do you mean 'kick in'

What is going to happen?

If you mean the child would be referred to social services, on the basis of what?

Bearing in mind that non CP referrals need the parents consent.

greyboringgrey · 20/09/2026 21:14

Why are you reluctant to provide the information?

Information creep should be resisted as a point of principle. It isn't the case of asking 'why don't you want to provide it' more a case of 'why are you asking and what is your entitlement to have it'.

If someone asks you what kind of pants you are wearing, why would it matter to you that they know? Why would you be reluctant to provide the information? It doesn't matter, they'll never see them, what's the problem?

PestoPastaLife · 20/09/2026 21:16

PersonalData · 20/09/2026 17:25

I’ve asked them. They just keep repeating for safeguarding and that it’s a requirement not a choice .

As of September 2026 the updated Keeping Children Safe in Education rules have “upgraded” attendance to a core safeguarding issue rather than just another metric, so yes, schools are required to show they have done everything possible to get proof of where children are if missing from school.

If Ofsted asked what they had done to safeguard your child when he was missing for four days at the start of term, they would be hung out to dry for anything less than what they have asked for.

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:16

Needmorelego · 20/09/2026 17:34

What do you mean?
A child is off school for a week.
The school will want to know why. You say "oh yes we were on holiday".... should they just accept that?
With no proof?

Erm in the same way a parent rings in and says little Johnny has a cold/flu and wont be in this week. You dont have proof for that either.

Whats happened to parents having any authority here?

HonorBound · 20/09/2026 21:16

Why do the school think you are lying? Id ask why they think you are lying about your whereabouts?

21ZIGGY · 20/09/2026 21:17

What a strange hill to die on

PestoPastaLife · 20/09/2026 21:19

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:13

And what do you mean 'kick in'

What is going to happen?

If you mean the child would be referred to social services, on the basis of what?

Bearing in mind that non CP referrals need the parents consent.

Not anymore they don’t.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6aa2a5b1c5796a7a179c665a/Information_sharing_duty_statutory_guidance.pdf

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:19

Surprisinglynice · 20/09/2026 17:39

You wouldn’t say that if in a fortnight times a child has been killed by a step father who only a few months earlier had beaten her senseless and then told the school she was on holiday for a week whilst she recovered

Or the parent could just say she was ill. This is a nonsense. I cant believe people actually think this makes any sense, is logical or in any way reasonable.

KeepPumping · 20/09/2026 21:21

notimagain · 20/09/2026 19:09

If they do investigate they start asking to see stuff like bank records (so they can see where you've used cards) and similar...they're won't take flight info on it's own as proof.

Ok, I would have thought flight records were more robust because you could have someone else make purchases on a card to pretend you were somewhere?

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:21

We wont take a referral for CHIN/Early Help without the parents consent

CP referrals have never needed consent.

This situation, theoretical though it may be, would not be a CP referral.

DaisyDooley · 20/09/2026 21:24

PersonalData · 20/09/2026 17:25

I’ve asked them. They just keep repeating for safeguarding and that it’s a requirement not a choice .

If it’s a ‘requirement’ I would be asking for a copy of the legislation which states that this is a requirement for parents of primary school children.

MrMucker · 20/09/2026 21:24

You've taken your child away almost as soon as the school year has started, so they will miss out on key plans shared thought their classes for the rest of the year. You've triumphed that it's just short of "qualifying" for a fine. Youre happy to incur additional workload for teaching staff as they are duty bound to monitor catch up work after absences. But you've declined to provide the school with a really basic piece of information which they require by their own safeguarding procedure. A flat "no". And an "myob" attitude.
You're being difficult because you can.

Scrimblescromble · 20/09/2026 21:25

Moveoverdarlin · 20/09/2026 18:25

Is that what you want? A referral? Social services poking around your family? Questioning your parenting? That would be my idea of a nightmare. Jesus. Help your children out here! Why on earth can’t you say to them it was EasyJet flight EJ47612?

That will get you off the hook and avoid referrals.

I would do all of that to avoid the school and SS knowing I took my child out of school mid September to get my teeth whitened in Turkey.

Good grief. Your logic here is mental.

There is absolutely no chance children’s social work services would investigate someone not giving flight details after taking their kids out of school for a trip to Turkey so it’s a moot point.

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:25

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · 20/09/2026 17:45

I'm a senior social work manager. I make decisions about actual safeguarding every day. What safeguarding is NOT is assuming all parents are abusive with no evidence of abuse and demanding parents prove they aren't abusing their children when there is no reason to suspect they are.
Demanding flight details is an overstep for one thing, and if it's being used as some kind of 'evidence' of an absence of abuse then it's dangerous nonsense.

Same here, same job. This thread is unbelievable!!

KeepPumping · 20/09/2026 21:25

21ZIGGY · 20/09/2026 21:17

What a strange hill to die on

Not really, it is part of the long journey back to common sense, your personal flight details have got fuck all to do with the school, their limit is that they can report too many days off that doesn"t tick whatever their current box is and they can be vigilant for and report signs of abuse or neglect to the appropriate authorities.

User451278 · 20/09/2026 21:26

Send them a msg. that you made a mistake. You didn't go on hols. Your child had a bad cold and couldn't go to school. The end.

Movingonup313 · 20/09/2026 21:27

Id understand if they requested the paperwork before you went away - as a potential safeguarding step. But once your dc is back safe and sound? Seems unnecessary - unless want to have it incase questioned about it.

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:27

MrMucker · 20/09/2026 21:24

You've taken your child away almost as soon as the school year has started, so they will miss out on key plans shared thought their classes for the rest of the year. You've triumphed that it's just short of "qualifying" for a fine. Youre happy to incur additional workload for teaching staff as they are duty bound to monitor catch up work after absences. But you've declined to provide the school with a really basic piece of information which they require by their own safeguarding procedure. A flat "no". And an "myob" attitude.
You're being difficult because you can.

A 'basic piece of information they require for their own safeguarding procedure'

Well thats on them then isnt it. That they devise a 'safeguarding procedure' that requires information they're not in control of and have no right to

And again with the 'SAFEGUARDING'.

People just love this word.

Scrimblescromble · 20/09/2026 21:28

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:21

We wont take a referral for CHIN/Early Help without the parents consent

CP referrals have never needed consent.

This situation, theoretical though it may be, would not be a CP referral.

A CIN referral can be made without consent (technically so can EH) it’s the assessment/plan that would require the consent.

KeepPumping · 20/09/2026 21:28

MrMucker · 20/09/2026 21:24

You've taken your child away almost as soon as the school year has started, so they will miss out on key plans shared thought their classes for the rest of the year. You've triumphed that it's just short of "qualifying" for a fine. Youre happy to incur additional workload for teaching staff as they are duty bound to monitor catch up work after absences. But you've declined to provide the school with a really basic piece of information which they require by their own safeguarding procedure. A flat "no". And an "myob" attitude.
You're being difficult because you can.

"You've taken your child away almost as soon as the school year has started, so they will miss out on key plans shared thought their classes for the rest of the year."

The teacher or one of their pals could text it to them?

PestoPastaLife · 20/09/2026 21:29

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:21

We wont take a referral for CHIN/Early Help without the parents consent

CP referrals have never needed consent.

This situation, theoretical though it may be, would not be a CP referral.

I don’t know what messaging you’ve been getting from your side, but from the school side the message has been clear: as of this September, if there is a lawful and appropriate need to share information, we are expected to do so, and we simply inform parents of the decision. Obviously if there isn’t a lawful and appropriate reason, the referral simply shouldn’t happen.
The parents don’t have to engage in eg Early/Family help, but the referral is not up to them. We also don’t need to consider whether sharing the information is in the “overriding public interest” anymore.

KeepPumping · 20/09/2026 21:30

Movingonup313 · 20/09/2026 21:27

Id understand if they requested the paperwork before you went away - as a potential safeguarding step. But once your dc is back safe and sound? Seems unnecessary - unless want to have it incase questioned about it.

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No, they would still be overstepping.

Peacoconut · 20/09/2026 21:31

They might not be so willing to authorise future days off though. I’m not sure why they need the info but I would just give it, no skin off my nose and there will be bigger school issues to fight.

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 21:31

PestoPastaLife · 20/09/2026 21:16

As of September 2026 the updated Keeping Children Safe in Education rules have “upgraded” attendance to a core safeguarding issue rather than just another metric, so yes, schools are required to show they have done everything possible to get proof of where children are if missing from school.

If Ofsted asked what they had done to safeguard your child when he was missing for four days at the start of term, they would be hung out to dry for anything less than what they have asked for.

He wasnt 'missing from school', he had a planned absence.

Given that there is no proof that can be given for children off sick, as GPs wont give notes (quite rightly) for illness that is a week or so, sometimes even longer, this is completely irrational.

If a child doesnt turn up, disappears, no information from parent, other markers around parents behaviour or observations about the child, thats a different matter.