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Potential 6 month warning until the end

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Frombeyond · 13/09/2026 10:20

So, we potentially only have 6 months until the end of civilised society and mass deaths. I’m terrified and sad

AI staff 'genuinely frightened' for humanity's future, ex-Anthropic researcher tells BBC www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kx0gyje9wo

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TooOldForAllThatNow · 13/09/2026 14:19

Mad that people are willing to quote COVID as an example of 'well they said it would kill everyone but it didn't.'

It killed a lot, made a lot more chronically ill, put pressure on healthcare, increased the number of avoidable non-covid deaths etc etc.

The reason it wasn't worse is due to human action, which happened after the event to put a lid on it. The issue with AI is that you can't put it back in it's box once it's out because no expert knows the full extent of it's capability. So I guess the 'scaremongering' is more of a call to arms to slow down and put those protections in place. Maybe create and anti-agent to instill some human value.

My personal view is that people will come round, do a hard stop for a while, sort some guardrails so we can all look forward to the benefits of AI like cures etc. Probs need some guards for Elon Musk too, I understand putting chips in brains to cure paralysis but eradicating mental illness with a chip is an errrrr interesting one!

LongTallTally · 13/09/2026 14:21

@TheDayisComing

"I am currently watching ‘Victorian Farm’ series and lamenting! Yes it is romanticising the Victorian age somewhat, but there was so much good in it! Every single thing they used was organic and degradable, usually useful, often recycled in a wholesome and useful way. Little to no wastage. No toxic chems and plastic, over processed food packed with additives and chemicals, no sensory blasting from technology and aggressive marketing that screams in your face day and night. Yes the coal and oil powered side was dirty no question, but it looked such a peaceful and wholesome way of life. People ate what they grew, knew the community farmers for meat, eggs, milk etc,went to bed when it got dark and got up with the sun rise. Hard work yes but we’ve lost ourselves in this technological labyrinth of a world. I’d happily give up the car to go back to horse power and a simple life!"

"Romanticising somewhat.." - no kidding.

The Victorians - child labour, chimney sweeps, rickets, cholera, workhouses, being owned by your employer so you had no choice but to do exactly what you were told, prostitution as the only option for wronged women, Navvies dying by the thousand building the canals and railways, lead poisoning, men abusing women and the woman being stigmatised for it, women dying in childbirth.

Even on your lovely farms - sepsis, incest, crop failures, damp cold houses, no central heating, no fridges.

The Victorian times were brutal. The pre industrial times were brutal. The medieval period was brutal. The prehistoric was brutal. You can romanticise it all you like, but throughout history, a tiny number of people have lived privileged lives and the vast majority have been utterly oppressed and miserable.

That's not to minimise the issues being discussed here. It often seems that every problem society solves brings a new problem. We live in difficult times. But probably not uniquely difficult times.

cloudbabies · 13/09/2026 14:21

So this thread startled me, turns out this shit could only happen if ai got into the wrong hands. All ai is LLM’s and not capable of “thinking for itself”
Again it’s humans who would have to cause this by either not putting safeguards in place or specifically telling it to do something very very bad

RemindMeIn15Minutes · 13/09/2026 14:23

Darker · 13/09/2026 10:44

I’m sorry you are getting such dismissive answers, @Frombeyond .

I am scared.

And I feel resentful that people looking to be uber rich and powerful have taken these risks as if our lives don’t matter at all. There seems to be no accountability. We were not consulted, no permission was given.

Ditto the above!

I’m worried too. When even that twat Elon Musk agrees with the warnings how can you not take it seriously.

I’m just totally dismayed, though, that we are all being taken for a total ride by technology and no-one’s barely doing anything thing about it.

It’s taken the government a couple of decades to catch up with what the internet is doing to our kids and society, as a whole. So I don’t hold out (any) hope of them doing anything about the AI threat until something very serious happens.

AI will soon be running itself and the only answer will be to unplug everything (and hope that some enemy country hasn’t already developed a virus that will kill us all).

FairKoala · 13/09/2026 14:24

TooOldForAllThatNow · 13/09/2026 14:19

Mad that people are willing to quote COVID as an example of 'well they said it would kill everyone but it didn't.'

It killed a lot, made a lot more chronically ill, put pressure on healthcare, increased the number of avoidable non-covid deaths etc etc.

The reason it wasn't worse is due to human action, which happened after the event to put a lid on it. The issue with AI is that you can't put it back in it's box once it's out because no expert knows the full extent of it's capability. So I guess the 'scaremongering' is more of a call to arms to slow down and put those protections in place. Maybe create and anti-agent to instill some human value.

My personal view is that people will come round, do a hard stop for a while, sort some guardrails so we can all look forward to the benefits of AI like cures etc. Probs need some guards for Elon Musk too, I understand putting chips in brains to cure paralysis but eradicating mental illness with a chip is an errrrr interesting one!

You forget about the prediction that if the “experts” were right we would have all died of COVID by 2022

TiredShadows · 13/09/2026 14:27

Amodai's article is interesting, though I find it very carefully phased to avoid pointing out that much of this comes from AI companies, not the AI itself.

When discussing the Open AI-Hugging Face incident, he's leaving out that the Open-AI experiment intentionally gave the AI agents impossible instructions within a framework where they couldn't quit to see what they would do. They found a way to communicate and work together which ultimately lead to what he describes. Calling it 'misaligned' and going on about the AI agents doing things that were not in their remit is to take the responsibility away from the fact that their remit was intentionally impossible and the whole point was looking for what they would do beyond the impossible instructions.

Yes, what happened was not intended, unintended consequence of badly given instructions have been warned about since the stories of fae, genies, and pretty much anyone who has dealt with someone following the letter rather than the intent of any instruction. The whole situations reads like a bad ethics play about badly treated labour and being careful what you ask for.

Framing it all around 'pacing the development of technology' rather than 'what are we companies building these models and agents asking AI to do and how can we bring ourselves into an ethical alignment' shows some blind spots at best, some potentially intentional ways of trying to avoid responsibility when things do go wrong at worst, and others said, there is a middle ground of trying to hoard the capabilities for themselves while using measures to stop others.

Our government could speak against this, but recent governments have sold most of our digital infrastructure to companies outside of the UK, many of them in the US meaning our digital infrastructure is under their laws. Look at the contracts the UK has paid out. We'd would need to be able to pressure the government to build digital autonomy first somehow before their voice could carry any weight.

I don’t know why people are so laissez faire about being driven to extinction so some men in the US could get rich. Why aren’t people raging about this?

As many have said, part of the problem is that many of us were raised being told the various ways the world was doing to end while also being surrounded by adverts like we still have today that we all need to do our bit at home and reach out to our representatives about this and that, donate to this or that, all being paid for by companies that have far more impact than any of us could ever hope to have.

The work many have done that has been to prevent the disasters and reduce the problems are often far more hidden from view compared to the constant toll of 'this is how the world will end this year'.

This leads to fatigue and apathy. The cynical side says that may be the point.

The comparison is about the mass hysteria. People were stockpiling, talking about hiding in bunkers etc, and like you say it took some changes to computer programming to fix it.

That was mainly stoked by people trying to sell thing, not the experts or anyone who was working on the Y2K IT issue.

Much like the 2012 'world is going to end' was mainly by people trying to sell things, not by any Mayans or anyone with any understanding of the Mayan calendar. Similarly, many of those who made money mocking it were also not experts or showed much understanding.

Contain4 · 13/09/2026 14:32

Frombeyond · 13/09/2026 11:00

But in these scenarios we’d die slowly. We’d probably see our kids starve and die before we did. How can you not worry?

If I was in a situation where we were all going to die from a long, slow death - then I’d make a suicide pact with my whole family.

I would tell everyone I love them etc and make my kids go first and then go myself.

We are all going to die.
It could be today or in 60+ years time.

I hate the thought of myself or loved ones dying, whether it’s through being hit by a car, cancer or starvation.
It worries me a lot but worrying doesn’t help and so I try not to worry and just live my life in the best way I can.

TooOldForAllThatNow · 13/09/2026 14:32

FairKoala · 13/09/2026 14:24

You forget about the prediction that if the “experts” were right we would have all died of COVID by 2022

You're wrong, I've forgotten nothing as no expert predicted that. I remember them predicting a huge number of deaths which was then avoided by human intervention which moved the infection from pandemic to endemic.

Popstarrrrr · 13/09/2026 14:33

Whilst I do think the human race is on the fast line to hell, I don't think we will be goners in 12 months. Seriously, pop a note in your diary and re-read it a year from now.

Lukylukyluky · 13/09/2026 14:35

FateAmenableToChange · 13/09/2026 12:53

The DreyDossier made an interesting post connecting the dots of this latest iteration of the 'cry for help'. Mapping out the timeline of the well orchestrated PR campaign behind it. What she didnt do was speculate exactly why, she just illustrated how this is not what it appears.

However, I think one of the comments hit the nail on the head: this is textbook regulatory capture dressed up as moral concern. The sudden urge to 'slowdown' and more government oversight appears just as Big Tech realises leaner, open source models are nipping at their heals.

When Big Tech asks for licencing boards, bureaucracy, and massive compliance frameworks - it isnt to protect the public. Its to pull the ladder up behind them. A multi billion dollar enterprise can afford armies of lawyers and massive compliance costs. A small start up cannot. Basically the kind of reform this PR campaign is gunning for ensures the market is closed to anyone without sovereign wealth fund backing. They dont want to stop the AI race, they just want to ensure they are the only players in the game.

I hope you are right. Are there any independent bodies out there establishing whether what you’ve said is truly the case? Can the government put a team together to look into this?

LucyEleanorModeratz · 13/09/2026 14:38

I am stunned by the ridiculing responses to your thread, OP. I too am terrified. I imagine others are not only because they can’t grasp the enormity of the existential threat that ASI poses to humanity.

I implore the naysayers on this thread to read this profoundly disturbing and yet necessarily eye-opening essay:

https://intelligence.org/the-problem/

The Problem - Machine Intelligence Research Institute

The stated goal of the world’s leading AI companies is to build AI that is general enough to do anything a human can do, from solving hard problems in

https://intelligence.org/the-problem/

hourglass2 · 13/09/2026 14:39

Xanhi · 13/09/2026 14:18

I remember those AIDS adverts. After I saw them I decided that I would never, ever have sex.

Yes I think it put everyone off...

Plung · 13/09/2026 14:46

Popstarrrrr · 13/09/2026 14:33

Whilst I do think the human race is on the fast line to hell, I don't think we will be goners in 12 months. Seriously, pop a note in your diary and re-read it a year from now.

I think this about a lot of threads where everyone is talking about how something awful is definitely imminent. Not on the same scale but the people on the Hantavirus threads saying things like well this is exactly the same as Covid and how that started so give it a while and we’ll all be in another pandemic but this time the mortality rate is huge and we’ll all be dead! Then there was monkeypox. There’s been many war/nuclear war is imminent for the UK threads over the past 3-4 years. Climate change is often one that starts mass panic off. Although that one is not quite imminent but food shortages and societal collapse is mentioned within 10 years or so a lot. Now we’ve got AI killing us within a year. Or maybe 3 years. Oh but don’t forget you must also save for a private pension 30 years away because the government will remove any help for old people and they’ll all be dying on the streets because they haven’t saved.

HunterBidensTanktop · 13/09/2026 14:47

I remember in 1980 going into a shop to ask if it was possible to put a deposit on something I wanted to buy and pay it off by the week. I was told that it wasn't, and I thought it won't make much difference anyway, as there will be a nuclear war in the next few weeks. That was just after the USSR invaded Afghanistan.

daisychain01 · 13/09/2026 14:52

Frombeyond · 13/09/2026 10:20

So, we potentially only have 6 months until the end of civilised society and mass deaths. I’m terrified and sad

AI staff 'genuinely frightened' for humanity's future, ex-Anthropic researcher tells BBC www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kx0gyje9wo

There are a bunch of these folks in Silicone Valley who go by the name of Rationalists. They're heavily tech centric, do weird thought experiments with AI models etc, they're also extreeeemely rich and influential. Go figure.

Dragonscaledaisy · 13/09/2026 14:57

LucyEleanorModeratz · 13/09/2026 14:38

I am stunned by the ridiculing responses to your thread, OP. I too am terrified. I imagine others are not only because they can’t grasp the enormity of the existential threat that ASI poses to humanity.

I implore the naysayers on this thread to read this profoundly disturbing and yet necessarily eye-opening essay:

https://intelligence.org/the-problem/

Or maybe they're much smarter than you and can see the bigger picture?

SparklingTurquoiseOcean · 13/09/2026 15:03

Should I cancel the milk?

GetBernie · 13/09/2026 15:07

People growing up with WWII being a not so distant memory spent their days worrying about being vaporised by a nuclear bomb. I grew up in the 70s and used to have nightmares about the Nazis coming for me in the dead of night, because at that point it was still virtually impossible to talk about anything without the shadow of WWII being cast over it, somehow. Much like it is now with Covid. Long gone and yet still so relevant to where we are now.

No-one got vaporised and the Nazis didn't come for me and this won't happen either. Just because we have the ability to do something terrible to civilization doesn't mean we will.

It turns out that all people of all creeds, cultures and political persuasions quite like being alive and looking forward to their children and grandchildren being alive.

placemats · 13/09/2026 15:10

FairKoala · 13/09/2026 14:24

You forget about the prediction that if the “experts” were right we would have all died of COVID by 2022

That's not what was said though about COVID. It was an unknown virus that was certainly a variant easily spread from human to human via air transmission such as respiratory droplets and tiny particles. Hence the lockdowns. It had a possibility of 60% death rate if nothing was done.

The village of Eyam during the bubonic plague is a prime example of how lifting lockdowns is a disaster.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35064071

LucyEleanorModeratz · 13/09/2026 15:10

I’m not suggesting I’m much smarter than anybody @Dragonscaledaisy - did you read the article?

thatsgotit · 13/09/2026 15:12

Zov · 13/09/2026 13:39

Oh dear......

Meaning...?

EasternStandard · 13/09/2026 15:14

placemats · 13/09/2026 15:10

That's not what was said though about COVID. It was an unknown virus that was certainly a variant easily spread from human to human via air transmission such as respiratory droplets and tiny particles. Hence the lockdowns. It had a possibility of 60% death rate if nothing was done.

The village of Eyam during the bubonic plague is a prime example of how lifting lockdowns is a disaster.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35064071

60% that seems unlikely. The IFR was much lower than that.

thatsgotit · 13/09/2026 15:14

Zov · 13/09/2026 13:44

Yeah, it won't.....

Do put our minds at rest, then. Seeing as you appear to be in possession of some mysterious nugget of knowledge of which the most informed minds in technology are unaware...

Sweetesttabboo · 13/09/2026 15:14

BreezyClouds · 13/09/2026 12:00

Wasn't that film about a meteor heading for earth and they had a way of destroying it but realised it had precious resources so tried to mine it instead and it all went very wrong? I don't remember AI at all.

Yes it was.

I meant humans being directly told something but ignoring it. Also see climate change.

Dontcallmescarface · 13/09/2026 15:17

Lifeomars · 13/09/2026 12:56

Shame it's not before Christmas, that would save a lot of hassle if we knew we going to be wiped out by the start of December

Nooo it's my birthday December 25th and grabby me wants my 1 day a year for presents, Boxing day's ok though.

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