How would you split this cost?

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Here’s the scenario
Mum and teenage son plan a 3 night trip to Europe. Mum intend her partner and also son’s friend. Apartment sleeps 6 (2 bedroom). Partner invites two relatives.

Apartment can’t be cancelled.

There was no mention of cost split when friend was invited, it has subsequently become clear a split is expected.

Partner and relatives are no longer going.

How much of the apartment cost should be attributed to the friend?

I also would expect the people who have cancelled to pay for any losses/costs they were originally responsible for and I would express that to the woman. It shouldn’t be up to you to make up their share.

You should never accept offers without knowing the exact conditions of them first. And if the exact conditions aren't clear, you should always ask for all of the conditions. When you know exactly what you're committing to, and you agree to them, that's when you actually pull the trigger and start booking flights. You've done it the other way around: You've booked the flight for your son, then you've looked into the conditions of the offer. It amazes me that adults do this all the time - becaus, assumptions. Parents assuming things instead of asking to know for sure seem to get them into trouble too often.

Hopefully you've learned your lesson. It's not easy to negotiate the terms now, after you have booked your son's flight and he's excited to go. Unless you want to argue with the other parents and risk them saying they don't want to take him after all, you're kind of a hostage to their conditions now. If they want you to pay X, I guess you've got to.

Partner and relatives who pulled out pay half, your son 10% (standard child rate?) if pushed.
Have the Mum and partner split up, hence the sudden u-turn?

I think what you have to remember is that what you would do and what others would do and expect are two different things. For example. My daughter was invited to Rome with her best friend and her parents amazing opportunity. I wouldn’t expect a free ride however, it ended up very costly. We paid for her flights, hotel stay in London before and after flights, share of the apartment and obvs spending money. Now here where I could have got miffed when I actually looked into it more. The hotel rooms in London they would have had to pay for anyway for their daughter, and the apartment in Rome didn’t mean they needed a bigger one than they already needed if it was just the three of them. Sooooo personally if I was the parents taking my friends daughter I wouldn’t have asked for anything for the hotel rooms nor apartment because I would be paying for that anyways regardless. But that’s my personal morals and suppose upbringing plays a factor. Not everyone would think like me and that’s ok.

I think if they have been invited you shouldn’t assume that no contribution would be required and if they would like that then if you wish for him to go you accept that’s what’s to happen and to do it. It’s irrelevant to you who was going and who isn’t going now. Get the amount decide if you are happy to pay pay it he goes or you don’t and he doesn’t xx

Personally wouldn't charge anything for accommodation! Having a friend for her child will make the holiday more enjoyable for mum (we've all been bored teens in the most amazing places, right?!) and presumably she would have had the same size accommodation with the original plans as not many places cater to 5 people, so it's probably not going to cost her anything extra either way.
I mean personally I wouldn't invite another child unless I intended on fully paying for them, including travel, accommodation, food and activities.

Fgs just say their ages! The post was very poorly written in the first place and now you're being cryptic too. No one can offer proper opinions when it makes little to no sense.

We often took a friend on holiday. If flying I asked for the flight to be paid and that they had own spending money. Accomodation was usually B and B or Self Catering and one more meal was neither here nor there. I suppose if expensive days out were included Id ask for something to cover that.

I figured you were. Since the other mum's partner and those relatives flaked out, 100% should be covered by the mum. You should send money for him to eat and have fun but the room/taxes etc. are on the mum, since the cost would not go down if your son did not go.

Sounds like the mum got herself into a pickle when the partner and relatives bailed. That is not on you or your son to fix.

13, 14 and 15 are still children as well as teenagers

This is like one of those weird logic questions.

The fact that fewer people are going is not your problem OP, the person making the invites should take it up with the persons letting her down. To ask to subside it now is bu.

I can’t follow this at all. Mum and partner and her son going on trip so two rooms. Partner invites two rellies and a falling out and they’re not going now. So mum and son and his friend are only ones so mum will take one room and son and friend take other room. Mum pissed off because she was only expecting to pay for one room and now landed with cost of two rooms? I’d take it up with ex partner since he messed up the arrangements

You don’t suddenly blurt out to someone after booking that you expect them to pay a share for the accommodation. You just don’t.
They must have been invited or a discussion taken place. If no money was mentioned right from the start then too bad.

However much you told them it would cost in the first place. They shouldn't have to pay extra for other people not turning up. Your partner and the relatives should pay their parts.

I think either the son’s friend should have paid nothing for the apartment (presumably he was just bunking with son). Or he should have paid a 6th. I still think this is true regardless of whether the other grownups are going….

I think this is more than generous. Especially as you probably shouldn’t have paid anything and they didn’t mention it at the start….

25% is very fair.

This whole thing is weird / cheap and a lesson learned....

The original booking for for four people, there’s two bedrooms. So imo 1/4…. Would have been a “bonus” if split 6 ways but as it happens it should go back to original plan, not be upped to a 1/3.

Oh sorry just read that they’re children! No you should only be paying for his flight, accommodation and food/drink should be covered by the parent who invited him unleee stated originally! Don’t offer if you can’t afford it!

Surely you are not expecting your teen sons teen friend to pay or his family to pay when he was invited as your sons plus one ?
sounds like your partner and his friends have bailed on you and you want money to pay for the rather large accommodation for just three people ? You seriously cannot do this your partner and his plus two need to pay whether they are now going or not !!!

Jesus! I feel as though there’s a much simpler way to have written this. I understand that you wanted to secure anonymity, but I think it’s safe to say you’re all good in that aspect, because it seems as though a good percentage of this thread are confused AF, as am I! Maybe it’s just because it’s late, Saturday and I’ve had one hell of a week, but this thread has me questioning my comprehension skills🤭

Bugger it, I’ll play too.

So, If Derek buys 7 tins of beans in Swansea on a Tuesday, loses 3 of them somewhere near Gloucester, and Brenda travels to Paris at 47mph on a mobility scooter carrying a jar of pickled beetroot, how many sheep are required to tile the roof of a medium-sized bungalow?

None. You invited sons friend. Do you ask for a contribution to the bills if he comes for a sleepover?

So initially 6 going? Now only 3?

Mum booked it and booked for 6, so your son (you) pay 1 sixth as a maximum …

it is not your fault her partner and his plus twos have cancelled and they should still pay their half between them

It is not mentioned why the other 3 people are not going, an important factor, what went wrong and why is she left with the bill?