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Is Glasgow a safe place to live?

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GoodnessGraciousMeh · 17/08/2026 21:14

My DD has recently moved to Glasgow for a job. She is shocked at how rough it seems, and there is a programme on iplayer which is on later tonight on player about Glasgow which was filmed recently. It's really shocking. She is living alone in a not particularly nice area and I am really worried. For people who have experience of Glasgow, please tell me your thoughts.

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KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 12:23

AuntieBiotics · 18/08/2026 21:02

OP has said she can only afford Tollcross. She can't afford to move to Dowanhill or Bearsden.

Bearsden wouldn"t be on many young professionals or students radar?

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 12:35

Sodthesystem · 18/08/2026 18:24

Yes..I agree. I mean we are saying the same thing…?

Im talking around 2012-2014ish. Was absolutely fine then imo. Again, as far as any city can be safe.

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Yes, we agree to a point, I am talking much earlier time zones though, 80"s and 90"s, it was very vibrant in the 90"s, clubs, music scene etc. and relatively safe if you were sensible, but you still couldn"t just wander into random pubs and expect to be "safe", so that isn"t really a safe overall environment is it? 80"s first half and certainly 1970"s were not particularly safe IMO. Of course the sort of violence that cities like Glasgow, (parts of) London, Liverpool etc. were notorious for back in the day happens everywhere now, there has been a big shift in that respect, and drugs are certainly a part of that.

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 12:42

NancyThompson · 18/08/2026 19:53

Glasgow city centre is just depressing now, it used to have such a buzz.

Used to be very grim up until they started the "City of Culture" thing, was that mid 80"s or later? Edinburgh as well at that time, Leith Walk, now full of "wine bars" was rough as fuck, and still was up until relatively recently, still dangerous at night IMO.

MeridaBrave · 19/08/2026 12:49

Nice suburbs in Southside - Giffnock Newton Means etc

NancyThompson · 19/08/2026 12:58

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 12:42

Used to be very grim up until they started the "City of Culture" thing, was that mid 80"s or later? Edinburgh as well at that time, Leith Walk, now full of "wine bars" was rough as fuck, and still was up until relatively recently, still dangerous at night IMO.

When I got there it was the peak of the awful knife violence, Victor Morris sold samurai swords!
It was an amazing job that was done massively lowering that, really gold standard, so it's sad to see the violence creeping back up again.

The town centre itself looks its worst for twenty years though imo. I think partly it never recovered from covid and the sudden absence of all the office staff, partly retail suffering from online shopping, plus general mismanagement.

Funny you mention Leith Walk, just been reading the newest Trainspotting sequel. Right at the start of the gentrification.

AuntieBiotics · 19/08/2026 12:59

All cities change over time. You would not have been hanging around the derelict buildings of Albert Dock in Liverpool in the 1970s. When I was growing up in Edinburgh, Leith was very sketchy in places and where the prostitutes solicited for business. Blythswood Square in Glasgow city centre was the prostitution area there, and now it's where the nicest hotel in the city centre is.

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 13:10

NancyThompson · 19/08/2026 12:58

When I got there it was the peak of the awful knife violence, Victor Morris sold samurai swords!
It was an amazing job that was done massively lowering that, really gold standard, so it's sad to see the violence creeping back up again.

The town centre itself looks its worst for twenty years though imo. I think partly it never recovered from covid and the sudden absence of all the office staff, partly retail suffering from online shopping, plus general mismanagement.

Funny you mention Leith Walk, just been reading the newest Trainspotting sequel. Right at the start of the gentrification.

How many sequels are there? I see the musical got cancelled, couldn"t sell enough tickets, audiences not interested in cartoonish depictions of squalor any more?

Piggywaspushed · 19/08/2026 13:17

AuntieBiotics · 19/08/2026 12:59

All cities change over time. You would not have been hanging around the derelict buildings of Albert Dock in Liverpool in the 1970s. When I was growing up in Edinburgh, Leith was very sketchy in places and where the prostitutes solicited for business. Blythswood Square in Glasgow city centre was the prostitution area there, and now it's where the nicest hotel in the city centre is.

There was always a nice hotel there though!

BoredZelda · 19/08/2026 13:19

oscillatora · 17/08/2026 21:19

The east end is very dangerous and the city centre is but other than that it’s fine. London is much more dangerous. Best city in the UK to live

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Oh behave yourself “very dangerous” 🙄

Looking at 2025 figures for reported crimes in the east end, excluding motoring offences, the number is:
North East Glasgow - 134 crimes per 1000 people.
Shettleson - 123 crimes per 1000 people.
Dennistoun - 132 crimes per 1000 people.
Calton - 159 crimes per 1000 people.

The number for central is 458.

That all might sound quite bad, but let’s look at Inverness

Central Inverness - 239 crimes per 1000 people.
Millburn - 157 crimes per 1000 people.

Is there any world where you would describe Inverness as “very dangerous”?

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 13:20

AuntieBiotics · 19/08/2026 12:59

All cities change over time. You would not have been hanging around the derelict buildings of Albert Dock in Liverpool in the 1970s. When I was growing up in Edinburgh, Leith was very sketchy in places and where the prostitutes solicited for business. Blythswood Square in Glasgow city centre was the prostitution area there, and now it's where the nicest hotel in the city centre is.

Blythswood Square was office blocks, lawyers etc, as the daytime business not as dodgy as Salamander St?, and there will still be higher end clients at the posh hotel? Leith is still sketchy and drug ridden, a little veneer of overpriced flats added to an area does nothing really to change the underlying dynamic.

AuntieBiotics · 19/08/2026 13:26

That's why Blythswood Sq was so popular with the prostitutes - lots of offices round about and very quiet in the evening. The building which is now the fancy hotel was the AA club but I don't think you could stay there? As a student in the 90s, living at that end of Sauchiehall St, I would never walk through the square after dark.

Salamander St and Constitution St were dodgy in Leith. I don't remember Leith Walk as being particularly dodgy - probably because it's quite a wide and busy street, always people about and traffic.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 14:32

Leith is night and day different to what it was in the 80s and 90s, and even significantly changed by comparison to what it was 15-20 years back.

Yes, there are still obvious hotspots where people with issues tend to congregate, and for the most part it is still overwhelmingly a working-class area, but to dismiss the changes as just a "veneer of overpriced flats" is absolutely ridiculous.

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 14:38

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 14:32

Leith is night and day different to what it was in the 80s and 90s, and even significantly changed by comparison to what it was 15-20 years back.

Yes, there are still obvious hotspots where people with issues tend to congregate, and for the most part it is still overwhelmingly a working-class area, but to dismiss the changes as just a "veneer of overpriced flats" is absolutely ridiculous.

What are the other changes?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 15:09

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 14:38

What are the other changes?

The thriving cafe and food culture. It's the epicentre of this in the City. Leith Walk is full of businesses owned and staffed by 20 and 30somethings, the pubs are far more geared toward catering for foodies and socialising than just plain old drinking, which is pretty much all Leith socialising used to be about even up to and including back in the 2010s. Pavements are covered with young affluent people dining, drinking, socialising.

There is a significant population of foreign entrepreneurs living in the area, so aside from the usual Italian, Indian, Chinese cuisine which has long been a part of most Scots high streets, there are Hungarian, Greek, Georgian, Nigerian, Argentinian, Kurdish and a few others who I've no doubt forgotten, all seem to be fairing well. Surprisingly few Fish & Chip shops.

This is before you get to the Shore, which now has high-end boutique accommodation, high-end restaurants, quality pubs that mean it's not uncommon on a summer night to see literally hundreds of young people sitting by the water of Leith socialising. This is the area that until recently was awash with all the usual diaspora and detritus you'd associate with a busy port, i.e. less salubrious drinking dens, rampant violence, open prostitution with the girls standing by the side of the road looking worse for wear. The people who make up the local patrons now would not, and could not have set foot in the same place 25-30 years back. The Fort estate is gone, so there is no longer a housing scheme 2 minutes away which was a total no-go area for emergency services, instead, it's open and clean social-housing for families in an area thriving with the same type of businesses now seen on the Shore and Leith Walk.

Leith Links and Pilrig park are both now clean and busy any time the sun is out. You no longer need eyes in the back of your head just to sit and relax in the sun, or constantly comb the ground for fear of accidently sitting on a dirty needle. The scrap yard in Salamander Street is going, the associated noise will be a thing of the past, the contamination of the ground is being dealt with, newbuild flats all around, so the approach to the port itself no longer looks like a scene from a post-apocalyptic movie. Seafield prom is being regenerated, the car dealerships going, more flats and businesses in their place along with public gardens and recreational areas.

So yes, there are undoubtedly some "overpriced" flats available in Leith, but that's a symptom of the fact Leith is not what it once was and there are actually people who do aspire to come and live here now. The property price rises reflect the changes.

NancyThompson · 19/08/2026 15:13

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 13:10

How many sequels are there? I see the musical got cancelled, couldn"t sell enough tickets, audiences not interested in cartoonish depictions of squalor any more?

Quite a few books now - the newest one is Men in Love, which is set just post Trainspotting and thankfully a bit less squalid, less druggy.

There's also Skagboys, Porno, The Blade Artist and Dead Men's Trousers.

I think there is a musical on in London till September? Kept seeing posters - Spud and Renton look face swapped.

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 15:18

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 15:09

The thriving cafe and food culture. It's the epicentre of this in the City. Leith Walk is full of businesses owned and staffed by 20 and 30somethings, the pubs are far more geared toward catering for foodies and socialising than just plain old drinking, which is pretty much all Leith socialising used to be about even up to and including back in the 2010s. Pavements are covered with young affluent people dining, drinking, socialising.

There is a significant population of foreign entrepreneurs living in the area, so aside from the usual Italian, Indian, Chinese cuisine which has long been a part of most Scots high streets, there are Hungarian, Greek, Georgian, Nigerian, Argentinian, Kurdish and a few others who I've no doubt forgotten, all seem to be fairing well. Surprisingly few Fish & Chip shops.

This is before you get to the Shore, which now has high-end boutique accommodation, high-end restaurants, quality pubs that mean it's not uncommon on a summer night to see literally hundreds of young people sitting by the water of Leith socialising. This is the area that until recently was awash with all the usual diaspora and detritus you'd associate with a busy port, i.e. less salubrious drinking dens, rampant violence, open prostitution with the girls standing by the side of the road looking worse for wear. The people who make up the local patrons now would not, and could not have set foot in the same place 25-30 years back. The Fort estate is gone, so there is no longer a housing scheme 2 minutes away which was a total no-go area for emergency services, instead, it's open and clean social-housing for families in an area thriving with the same type of businesses now seen on the Shore and Leith Walk.

Leith Links and Pilrig park are both now clean and busy any time the sun is out. You no longer need eyes in the back of your head just to sit and relax in the sun, or constantly comb the ground for fear of accidently sitting on a dirty needle. The scrap yard in Salamander Street is going, the associated noise will be a thing of the past, the contamination of the ground is being dealt with, newbuild flats all around, so the approach to the port itself no longer looks like a scene from a post-apocalyptic movie. Seafield prom is being regenerated, the car dealerships going, more flats and businesses in their place along with public gardens and recreational areas.

So yes, there are undoubtedly some "overpriced" flats available in Leith, but that's a symptom of the fact Leith is not what it once was and there are actually people who do aspire to come and live here now. The property price rises reflect the changes.

Obviously you bought a flat there and there is little point in continuing to discuss because your view won"t change, I would swap "Affluent young people" with Debt soaked young people" though, they are soaked in Uni and mortgage debt and basically they are being rinsed by property developers and bankers, any hint of a bond market crisis and/or recession just watch the area change.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 15:20

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 15:18

Obviously you bought a flat there and there is little point in continuing to discuss because your view won"t change, I would swap "Affluent young people" with Debt soaked young people" though, they are soaked in Uni and mortgage debt and basically they are being rinsed by property developers and bankers, any hint of a bond market crisis and/or recession just watch the area change.

Obviously you bought a flat there

Nope.

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 15:22

NancyThompson · 19/08/2026 15:13

Quite a few books now - the newest one is Men in Love, which is set just post Trainspotting and thankfully a bit less squalid, less druggy.

There's also Skagboys, Porno, The Blade Artist and Dead Men's Trousers.

I think there is a musical on in London till September? Kept seeing posters - Spud and Renton look face swapped.

Yes but after London it closes, they were hoping to do a UK tour. The Blade artist was supposed to be a film/TV film with Robert Carlyle, not sure if that happened?

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 15:22

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 15:20

Obviously you bought a flat there

Nope.

Smart move.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 15:26

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 15:22

Smart move.

No, the smart move would have been to buy in Leith 10-20 years ago.

I've owned my property outright for years because I bought in the early 90s. It's not in Leith, but nearby, and I spend most of my days actually in Leith proper due to work and social life. My property has continued to climb in value since I bought it, even in the aftermath of the 2008-2010 recession, and since that's a feature of being a property owner in Edinburgh, I seriously doubt people who have recently bought in Leith have much to worry about. We've been through crashes before, and all it did was slightly slow escalating prices.

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 15:31

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 15:26

No, the smart move would have been to buy in Leith 10-20 years ago.

I've owned my property outright for years because I bought in the early 90s. It's not in Leith, but nearby, and I spend most of my days actually in Leith proper due to work and social life. My property has continued to climb in value since I bought it, even in the aftermath of the 2008-2010 recession, and since that's a feature of being a property owner in Edinburgh, I seriously doubt people who have recently bought in Leith have much to worry about. We've been through crashes before, and all it did was slightly slow escalating prices.

And what crashes would those be?

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 15:42

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 15:26

No, the smart move would have been to buy in Leith 10-20 years ago.

I've owned my property outright for years because I bought in the early 90s. It's not in Leith, but nearby, and I spend most of my days actually in Leith proper due to work and social life. My property has continued to climb in value since I bought it, even in the aftermath of the 2008-2010 recession, and since that's a feature of being a property owner in Edinburgh, I seriously doubt people who have recently bought in Leith have much to worry about. We've been through crashes before, and all it did was slightly slow escalating prices.

You do realise that there was massive central bank intervention to lower borrowing costs (QE, money printing etc.) after 2008, and you realise that in today"s global economic climate that can"t happen again? Prices went up because of a sea of cheap mortgage debt not because some rough pub changed it"s name to the Hooray Henry! If you bought in the early 90"s you are insulated from a property crash, the people trying to look "affluent" on the Shore drinking £7.50 glasses of wine on their Debt Diddy app are not, they have borrowed top dollar for flats that are realistically worth under 100k if that.

A thing that happened years ago when development started at Ocean terminal was that muppets borrowing 500k for an "executive" flat ended up next door to smackheads when the developer couldn"t sell all the overpriced stuff to daft people from London etc. and got bought out by the council! Another classic was the Dalry Gait development, truly rough vibe there a few years ago and suddenly all these "executive" flats pop up at 500k to 700k or some other stupid number, look on a map and it is next to Princes St. walk round the block and it is a ghetto, well it was when they built them anyway, honestly not much better now.

NancyThompson · 19/08/2026 15:48

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 15:22

Yes but after London it closes, they were hoping to do a UK tour. The Blade artist was supposed to be a film/TV film with Robert Carlyle, not sure if that happened?

Not sure either about the film but I don't think so.
Oh right okay, I just remember seeing the posters in London.
I do like reading/rereading the books but it's probably a large dollop of nostalgia for me.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/08/2026 15:51

KeepPumping · 19/08/2026 15:31

And what crashes would those be?

1992 and 2008.

You do realise that there was massive central bank intervention to lower borrowing costs (QE, money printing etc.) after 2008, and you realise that in today"s global economic climate that can"t happen again?

Of course

Prices went up because of a sea of cheap mortgage debt not because some rough pub changed it"s name to the Hooray Henry! If you bought in the early 90"s you are insulated from a property crash, the people trying to look "affluent" on the Shore drinking £7.50 glasses of wine on their Debt Diddy app are not, they have borrowed top dollar for flats that are realistically worth under 100k if that

That's a lot of assumption about a lot of people, the most egregious being that they've all bought massively overpriced newbuilds in Newhaven etc. Leith still has an enormous quantity of Tenement flats which are bought and sold every single day. If those are "realistically worth under 100k", then I'm sure that will come as a shock to anyone who has bought or sold one in the past 20 years since you've have been hard pushed to find one for 100k even in the early 2000s.

CrazyCatMam · 19/08/2026 15:55

We're from a teeny tiny village in the arse end of nowhere with zero crime. Regularly go to Glasgow for festivals / concerts / weekends away, as do my two teenage daughters. Always feel safe and have never worried. Everyone we've encountered has gone out of their way to be friendly and helpful. Some are a bit rough around the edges, but not dangerous towards random strangers.

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