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Jason Arday dead

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ThisWiseRobin · 14/08/2026 22:01

Just putting this out there, but just heared.A sad end to a whole sorry mess.

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likelysuspect · 15/08/2026 13:16

Very difficult to prove given that the whole point was that his fantasy (which might be from MH issues) was believed. And in fact people are still trying to push the lies by saying they're true.

CloverAndGrass · 15/08/2026 13:17

Paul Embery talking a lot of sense (as always) on Twitter

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ThatMintQuail · 15/08/2026 13:20

likelysuspect · 15/08/2026 13:06

Theres no victim narrative around Lance Armstrong so no one would give a shit.

Because he didn't kill himself.

If he had, it would be different.

Even without a protected characteristic it could have been said he killed himself because of all the media attention.

Just thinking off the top of my head, John Barrowman and Philip Schofield said they had been hounded by the media to the point of contemplating suicide and claimed it was because of a protected characteristic i.e the media and public were homophobic and that's why people were so bothered about inappropriate age and power gap relationships and getting your cock out at work (Barrowman).

Gregg Wallace said he was hounded to the point of suicide by the BBC and the media for sexual harassment and exposing himself but then got a diagnosis of ASC and said he really didn't understand because of his Autism why his conduct was so awful and his Autism meant he had sensory issues so couldn't wear underpants so was accidentally exclusively showing his cock to female employees of the BBC.

Had any of those people and their 'protected characteristics' killed themselves you can bet it would have led to a lot of discourse about 'hounding to their deaths'.

Except they didn't. So it's just accepted they're ass-holes and not a victim of anything.

mishmashmess · 15/08/2026 13:20

In my opinion, Cambridge University have a lot of questions to answer. Something is clearly deeply rotten there.

In 2023 they let off a professor who'd nicked work from an undergrad and published it: https://www.varsity.co.uk/news/26105

Also, they refused to answer Byline Times when it uncovered evidence of overseas influence and massive safeguarding concerns around James Orr (Reform's head of policy and a professor of theology) building a right-wing recruitment centre and encouraging students he'd hand picked to come and live in his personal compound with him: https://bylinetimes.com/2026/07/09/peter-thiel-and-reform-uks-cambridge-university-pipeline-project/

And then there's this.

Plagiarising professor stays in post and threatens student journalists

More than twelve pages of an article published under O’Reilly's name had been lifted almost word for word from two essays by one of his students

https://www.varsity.co.uk/news/26105

FivePots · 15/08/2026 13:25

ThatMintQuail · 15/08/2026 13:20

Because he didn't kill himself.

If he had, it would be different.

Even without a protected characteristic it could have been said he killed himself because of all the media attention.

Just thinking off the top of my head, John Barrowman and Philip Schofield said they had been hounded by the media to the point of contemplating suicide and claimed it was because of a protected characteristic i.e the media and public were homophobic and that's why people were so bothered about inappropriate age and power gap relationships and getting your cock out at work (Barrowman).

Gregg Wallace said he was hounded to the point of suicide by the BBC and the media for sexual harassment and exposing himself but then got a diagnosis of ASC and said he really didn't understand because of his Autism why his conduct was so awful and his Autism meant he had sensory issues so couldn't wear underpants so was accidentally exclusively showing his cock to female employees of the BBC.

Had any of those people and their 'protected characteristics' killed themselves you can bet it would have led to a lot of discourse about 'hounding to their deaths'.

Except they didn't. So it's just accepted they're ass-holes and not a victim of anything.

Edited

Yes and it's also very unfair to people who are actually autistic for those in the public eye to be using this as an excuse for their malign behaviour.

Holidayhooha · 15/08/2026 13:30

Switchnow · 15/08/2026 13:08

Congratulations on outing yourself as totally unsuitable for FE teaching. Your poor students deserve better.

Why is ignoring it better for them?

x2boys · 15/08/2026 13:33

FivePots · 15/08/2026 13:25

Yes and it's also very unfair to people who are actually autistic for those in the public eye to be using this as an excuse for their malign behaviour.

Or for those who are severley autistic and have no understanding of social norms
My son for example would hsppliy expose himself to anyone and everyone as he has no concept of it not being appropriste
We dont let him of course but thats because we are hyper vigilant
Unlike Greg wallace who is cognitivley very able and despite his autism is fully aware that he shouldnt be exposing himself to anyone.

Switchnow · 15/08/2026 13:33

Holidayhooha · 15/08/2026 13:30

Why is ignoring it better for them?

If you’re unable to see the difference between ‘ignoring plagiarism’ and ‘confronting young people with suicide to scare the shit out of them’ then again, FE is not for you.

Holidayhooha · 15/08/2026 13:37

Switchnow · 15/08/2026 13:33

If you’re unable to see the difference between ‘ignoring plagiarism’ and ‘confronting young people with suicide to scare the shit out of them’ then again, FE is not for you.

Rather presumptuous based on an online discussion forum.

Justmerach · 15/08/2026 13:39

RIP to Jason
I hadn’t considered that he might do suicide although I didn’t know why Cambridge had it such a public affair. I avoided the case. I found him unsettling to look at. He had eyes that used to stare. I decided not to watch to respect him and wished him well and wanted it to be resolved.

Last I heard was this his former university had cleared his thesis.

I find the case a bit odd to work out with things not explained. He was a non verbal autistic and then taught himself and not a tutor. My siblings have had tutors in life with exams and me to. I have problems with grammar. I didn’t learn perfectly and my spelling and grammar at university I used to get marks knocked off, I got a word processor which helped. Today I use word but am not perfect in this area.

With severe autism if he had that it comes for some with for many sensory problems like balance and coordination. If he had this he improved.

Some people state online that they were “healed” from their autism and some say they improved like Temple Grandin. I listened to one story and a man said he was non verbal but I was looking at it I thought he was probably very mild now, but not “healed”. That is the extent I know of those stories. There were things missed out from the story like he did he improve from autism aside to of being non verbal to become verbal.

It is very sad for his children.

I could think he was mild to very mild autistic in the end. One shouldn’t use the condition to cover up errors at the level of university.

I think that there should be a review of the case.

CloverAndGrass · 15/08/2026 13:40

Holidayhooha · 15/08/2026 13:30

Why is ignoring it better for them?

Are you honestly not reconsidering? What if one of your students has lost a sibling or parent or close friend to suicide? They manage to get their life back together enough to go to college and then are confronted with “Don’t plagiarise or you’ll end up like JA”. Can you imagine how they’d feel?

And also you are doing that thing of presenting JA’s death as if he had no choice. He could have done all the plagiarism and lies and then chosen to live. Suicide is really not that simple.

Please, please, explore this issue more and consider the issues and possible ramifications for your students further before you start launching into a discussion about “plagiarism leads to suicide”.

CheeseNPickle3 · 15/08/2026 13:46

Switchnow · 15/08/2026 13:33

I’m down a rabbit hole now and going to get off all social media, but I thought this is worth sharing (links to instagram, hope that’s allowed)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcDtxrcA2EV/?igsh=NXl0ZzVnZjlodmE5

This makes me think more investigation is needed, not less. If you're found guilty of plagiarism, falsifying data or misconduct then this shouldn't be ignored and you shouldn't be hired back. Nobody should be profiting from academic theft.

I think when it gets to the case of JA, some of his claims were so obviously false to ordinary members of the public, it really was an emperor's new clothes moment that cast doubt on the validity of PhDs from Liverpool John Moores and the hiring practises of other universities.

I dislike liars because you can never trust what they say or do. Saying that JA got too much unfair press attention when other people do similar is bordering on saying that it should be ignored because other people get away with it.

likelysuspect · 15/08/2026 13:47

ThatMintQuail · 15/08/2026 13:20

Because he didn't kill himself.

If he had, it would be different.

Even without a protected characteristic it could have been said he killed himself because of all the media attention.

Just thinking off the top of my head, John Barrowman and Philip Schofield said they had been hounded by the media to the point of contemplating suicide and claimed it was because of a protected characteristic i.e the media and public were homophobic and that's why people were so bothered about inappropriate age and power gap relationships and getting your cock out at work (Barrowman).

Gregg Wallace said he was hounded to the point of suicide by the BBC and the media for sexual harassment and exposing himself but then got a diagnosis of ASC and said he really didn't understand because of his Autism why his conduct was so awful and his Autism meant he had sensory issues so couldn't wear underpants so was accidentally exclusively showing his cock to female employees of the BBC.

Had any of those people and their 'protected characteristics' killed themselves you can bet it would have led to a lot of discourse about 'hounding to their deaths'.

Except they didn't. So it's just accepted they're ass-holes and not a victim of anything.

Edited

Well I dont agree, Greg Wallace was ridiculed when he came out with the autism reason/excuse (take your pick)

People really didnt have sympathy for Barrowman and Schofiled at all when the claimed psychological distress, doubt that would have changed if they killed themselves.

Look at the Huw Edwards reaction.

DepressedOfLewes · 15/08/2026 13:52

Switchnow · 15/08/2026 13:33

If you’re unable to see the difference between ‘ignoring plagiarism’ and ‘confronting young people with suicide to scare the shit out of them’ then again, FE is not for you.

Jesus. What a namby pamby society we live in. Should we stop teaching about WWII atrocities in case it upsets someone 🙄

CloverAndGrass · 15/08/2026 13:54

DepressedOfLewes · 15/08/2026 13:52

Jesus. What a namby pamby society we live in. Should we stop teaching about WWII atrocities in case it upsets someone 🙄

I’m going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that you haven’t lost to anyone close to you to suicide.

smallglassbottle · 15/08/2026 13:54

Switchnow · 15/08/2026 13:33

If you’re unable to see the difference between ‘ignoring plagiarism’ and ‘confronting young people with suicide to scare the shit out of them’ then again, FE is not for you.

How is it 'scaring the shit out of them'? Perhaps they need to know just how far these things can go and therefore it's best to be honest and not plagiarise. Young people need to build resilience, not be sheltered from everything. Life isn't a series of fluffy rainbow coloured sprinkle sandwiches. Their lives are going to be tough in the coming years due to where the country is heading. Keeping them sheltered and soft is doing them no favours.

smallglassbottle · 15/08/2026 13:57

CloverAndGrass · 15/08/2026 13:54

I’m going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that you haven’t lost to anyone close to you to suicide.

People face terrible things all the time and have to live with them. Being 'triggered' is a modern phenomenon. We used to be able to face bad things, now we're permanently sheltered. You get to a point where you can deal with things. It's called being grown up.

likelysuspect · 15/08/2026 13:59

smallglassbottle · 15/08/2026 13:57

People face terrible things all the time and have to live with them. Being 'triggered' is a modern phenomenon. We used to be able to face bad things, now we're permanently sheltered. You get to a point where you can deal with things. It's called being grown up.

Totally agree with this.

smallglassbottle · 15/08/2026 14:00

More stoicism less wet lettuce is my recommendation. Shit happens, deal with it. Think of those who are worse off. I bet the 18 year old Russian soldiers who're currently being killed in their pointless war aren't going around complaining of being 'triggered' 🙄

DepressedOfLewes · 15/08/2026 14:06

CloverAndGrass · 15/08/2026 13:54

I’m going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that you haven’t lost to anyone close to you to suicide.

Irrelevant. Wrapping young people up in cotton wool is ridiculous and ironically making them less resilient mentally.

Jane379 · 15/08/2026 14:14

LindorDoubleChoc · 15/08/2026 13:15

"May all those who contributed to his death answer to his blood."

This is the point at which I fear we are getting into the realms of pointless hand wringing and self righteousness. No one contributed to his death, did they? If he died by his own actions, then no one contributed to it. He is responsible. So very sad for his loved ones, he did not need to make that choice.

'No one contributed to his death, did they? If he died by his own actions, then no one contributed to it. He is responsible.'

Maybe not in this case, but this can sometimes happen. Ofsted were ruled to have contributed to Ruth Perry's suicide, for example.

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/ofsted-inspection-contributed-to-head-ruth-perrys-death-coroner/

CloverAndGrass · 15/08/2026 14:15

DepressedOfLewes · 15/08/2026 14:06

Irrelevant. Wrapping young people up in cotton wool is ridiculous and ironically making them less resilient mentally.

I’ll take that as an acknowledgment that I’m correct.

Amazed how many people don’t seem to think it’s possible to adequately teach students about the ethical, legal and academic problems of plagiarism without bringing a suicide (which as we all know wasn’t just about plagiarism) into it, but there you go.

DepressedOfLewes · 15/08/2026 14:19

CloverAndGrass · 15/08/2026 14:15

I’ll take that as an acknowledgment that I’m correct.

Amazed how many people don’t seem to think it’s possible to adequately teach students about the ethical, legal and academic problems of plagiarism without bringing a suicide (which as we all know wasn’t just about plagiarism) into it, but there you go.

Actually I've had two family members attempt suicide but as I said that's irrelevant to the point here.

His suicide was a direct result of plagiarism. An extreme case but a case none the less. It should be a warning to others contemplating what they think is a harmless bit of copying.....

Switchnow · 15/08/2026 14:19

smallglassbottle · 15/08/2026 13:54

How is it 'scaring the shit out of them'? Perhaps they need to know just how far these things can go and therefore it's best to be honest and not plagiarise. Young people need to build resilience, not be sheltered from everything. Life isn't a series of fluffy rainbow coloured sprinkle sandwiches. Their lives are going to be tough in the coming years due to where the country is heading. Keeping them sheltered and soft is doing them no favours.

‘Don’t plagiarise because you might end up taking your own life’ is a fairly pointless lesson, imo. Much better to teach students how to avoid plagiarism, which is probably fairly simple at BTEC level.

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