Police investigating death of Ann Widdicombe

[GoodHonest]

Very strange

I've seen the Morning Star in shops, even purchased it a couple of times, but then again I used to live in Islington...

She studied Latin at Birmingham University, then philosophy, politics and economics at Oxford University.

Think you are looking like the unintelligent one tbh.

@OneAmberFinch That is not true with regards to Jo Cox. She was very vocal about the issues she supported e.g. refugees. An article she wrote about refugees is used in schools to teach English Language GCSE, so she was hardly an unrecognised, random victim. There are many people who would have hated her for the views she held.
Nigel Farage refused the security offered by the government as he did not want a record of his dodgy meetings/dealing. There is no reason he should have a better security than the leaders of other parties. Just because he is viler than the others doesn’t mean more of taxpayers’ money should be spent on him.
Modifying his views would probably make him less hated so he should try that instead.

Look, I'm not saying that MPs as a whole aren't targets in general. By the nature of their role they have elevated risk.

But do you think there are as many people who viscerally hated Jo Cox as do Nigel Farage? Surely not?

I have my criticisms of Farage but "he wants to have a high level of security that is in his direct employ" isn't one of them.

Why did Farage not accept the offer of police protection then? I can well believe he might be a target of copycat nutters now though. Sad world .

Where did you read that as the reason NF refused security?

No one has been charged with an offence yet. The police have 7 days to question the suspect under anti-terrorism legislation.

It’s been confirmed it was a targeted attack, that’s very sad.

Well that seemed fairly obvious from the outset. Too much of a coincidence for her to be murdered as opposed to any other elderly and vulnerable person living on their own in a rural area.

Although it seems that our journalists can't read statements. At no point did the D&C police say it wasn't a political or terrorist attack, they said there was no evidence that it was but they were keeping an open mind.

Yet every media outlet is screaming that the police were misleading.

@2dogsandabudgie
It is obvious. The dodgy man claims his life is at risk but refuses FREE ARMED security and instead goes for private security, which cannot be armed in this country. Why else would he do that?

Have you not seen the visceral hatred for Starmer on MN alone? Lammy(whom mumsnetters have said has a face asking to be punched for example)?

Farage makes out he is the only MP vulnerable to violence. He really is not.

Your first paragraph doesn’t tally with posts on here, any suggestion it was targeted didn’t get met with it’s obvious.

On the police they’d have been better off not honing in on the no suggestion line, perhaps it’ll be left out in future cases.

Same with Reddit - first day of reactions to the original police statement "see, no political motive, sounds like it was just a random burglary, much to the disappointment of Reform nutters I'm sure"

Second day with new information after people are upset that the police were misleading - "only an absolute illiterate idiot would interpret that statement as saying there was no political motive"

Yep

Perhaps in future the police would be better advised to say as little as possible until someone is charged. The TV and social media will turn into foaming Dementors but that's happening anyway. Then they can get on with their job in peace.

Your argument doesn’t make sense. If he is under such a severe threat why did he refuse the armed security and chose to employ unarmed private one?

And sure he can employ private security just like celebrities do, but he should pay for it himself, either from his earnings, or if that is not enough, then he can liquidise some of his assets.

When it comes to the taxpayer funded security, he should get the same level as Badenoh or the leaders of other major political parties. His vile actions should not entitle him to anything more than everyone else.

Mumsnet would be unbearable, but I agree.

They probably will risk assess politicians including reviewing death threats.

Yes, they did and offered him appropriate level of security, which he refused.

Something I also found a bit interesting is that people also had a reaction something like "ha, it was a white guy, the Reform nutters will be shocked". I think this is an interesting theory of mind failure. Before they said anything, I jumped to conclusions immediately to assuming it was a deranged Discord leftist, not an asylum seeker etc. I found it a bit surprising that anyone would default to thinking that based on the profile of this case!

I think it is very dubious for a politician to be beholden to a donor in the way Farage appears to be now to this cr**to guy, but the worst feature of all here is that he didn't bother declaring it. It seems to be a case of rules are for little people. Worrying sign in one who says he wants to be the country's top lawmaker.

The political views of the suspect have not been confirmed by the police. Yes, apparently he had some “communist/Russian leaning propaganda” on him. That does not mean anything. He could have chosen those deliberately to misdirect the investigation . There is huge “lefties are violent commies” propaganda being spread by MAGAs and other far right lunatics.
Anyway, isn’t Farage the biggest Russian/Putin puppet supporter in the UK? So wouldn’t having such literature be a sign of links with Reform?

"When it comes to the taxpayer funded security, he should get the same level as Badenoh or the leaders of other major political parties. His vile actions should not entitle him to anything more than everyone else."

That's not how it works though - it's about the level of threat he is deemed to be under, not how much you or anyone else feels he deserves to be murdered.

WHERE DID I SAY HE DESERVED TO BE MURDERED???

Yes, the threat was assessed and he was offered the same level of security as Badenoch. So not sure why you have a problem with this.

Ed Davey making the speech he did doesn’t help either. It adds risk which costs money.