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Farage to make statement this afternoon …

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AgitaAndroid · Today 12:38

Fingers crossed.

Farage to make statement this afternoon …
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5128gap · Today 16:43

PropertyD · Today 16:19

Well Josh is apparently getting a job when Burnham is in place. Why would he stand down unless there was a promise he would get his reward later?

Burnham wasn't in a position to promise him anything. Neither he nor Simons knew what the outcome in Makerfield would be.
He could have stood down as a gamble that Burnham would see him right, but it was risky.
So many in the Labour Party wanted Burnham to take over as PM, there's no reason to suppose Simons wasn't one of them, and he was uniquely plaved to start the ball rolling to make the magic happen.
Whether he is rewarded with a plum job or not, there's many think he has done a great service. Maybe that's enough if he's passionate.

baroqueandblue · Today 16:46

Loubissou · Today 15:37

Not the same thing at all. Burnham isn't re-running for the position. And didn't trigger a by-election to stand in it himself.

Oh, and hasn't taken enough money from criminals, Russians and crypto billionaires to be able to pay for the costs. Let alone "forgotten" to declare it all.

But if you can't see that Farage is a lying griffer by now, you are too far gone to be worth my time.

PS I have never voted Labour in my life.

Oh they can see he's a lying grifter alright. They're just expecting us to overlook the truth and unquestioningly stoop to their level, where apparently it's acceptable.

Never going to happen.

BrandiedAromatics · Today 16:51

5128gap · Today 16:43

Burnham wasn't in a position to promise him anything. Neither he nor Simons knew what the outcome in Makerfield would be.
He could have stood down as a gamble that Burnham would see him right, but it was risky.
So many in the Labour Party wanted Burnham to take over as PM, there's no reason to suppose Simons wasn't one of them, and he was uniquely plaved to start the ball rolling to make the magic happen.
Whether he is rewarded with a plum job or not, there's many think he has done a great service. Maybe that's enough if he's passionate.

It was reasonably certain that Makerfield would go to Burnham through all the projections. Simons had been exposed for trying to undermine journalists and had to step down from his aide role. He had nowhere to go in Westminster. He can go to Downing Street with Burnham, though.

JimBobsWife · Today 16:52

HerbaceousQuestions · Today 14:37

Can Rory Stewart be rehydrated?

Oh god no. He's so tedious now he and Alastair Campbell are best mates. Seem to think they're leaders of the free world in podcast form.

Nowisthetimeforicecream · Today 16:53

5128gap · Today 16:43

Burnham wasn't in a position to promise him anything. Neither he nor Simons knew what the outcome in Makerfield would be.
He could have stood down as a gamble that Burnham would see him right, but it was risky.
So many in the Labour Party wanted Burnham to take over as PM, there's no reason to suppose Simons wasn't one of them, and he was uniquely plaved to start the ball rolling to make the magic happen.
Whether he is rewarded with a plum job or not, there's many think he has done a great service. Maybe that's enough if he's passionate.

It's just a co-incidence is it? Simons is the best man for the job? Bullshit - it was a stitch up that will be paid for by taxpayers.

EasternStandard · Today 16:53

JimBobsWife · Today 16:52

Oh god no. He's so tedious now he and Alastair Campbell are best mates. Seem to think they're leaders of the free world in podcast form.

Haha yep

PropertyD · Today 16:54

5128gap · Today 16:43

Burnham wasn't in a position to promise him anything. Neither he nor Simons knew what the outcome in Makerfield would be.
He could have stood down as a gamble that Burnham would see him right, but it was risky.
So many in the Labour Party wanted Burnham to take over as PM, there's no reason to suppose Simons wasn't one of them, and he was uniquely plaved to start the ball rolling to make the magic happen.
Whether he is rewarded with a plum job or not, there's many think he has done a great service. Maybe that's enough if he's passionate.

Of course he was. Starmer was finished. There was no one to challenge him. This is what his third time going for the leadership. He took the opportunity that was presented to him.

Josh had his own issues and he also saw an opportunity to draw a line under those and then arise after AB is PM. Unless you think this is just a coincidence and that Josh will never appear within politics again?

TopPocketFind · Today 16:56

KeepPumping · Today 16:40

Why? Boris would have no chance, he only got the support he did because he took the right stance on Brexit, Farage is the architect, Boris was an apprentice who covered the shop for a few days.

A shopkeeper who did immense damage to this country.

I doubt Boris wants to live in Clacton or give up the money he is earning giving talks.

Nowisthetimeforicecream · Today 16:57

BrandiedAromatics · Today 16:51

It was reasonably certain that Makerfield would go to Burnham through all the projections. Simons had been exposed for trying to undermine journalists and had to step down from his aide role. He had nowhere to go in Westminster. He can go to Downing Street with Burnham, though.

There is no way a 32 years with a shit CV like Simons would get a £200,000 "special" role if he hadn't made way for the king. I'd beat my boittom dollar that if it hadn't worked out Simons would have popped up as an "advisor" to Burnham as Manchester Mayor.

It is just the same labour cronyism that saw Mandleson as US ambassador.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Today 16:57

BackToLurk · Today 15:41

Let Reform and Restore fight it out amongst themselves. Grubby little fuckers

Restore seem to be saying that they won't contest the seat. They're apparently waiting for the second by-election after the investigation into Farage's finances has been concluded.

He would actually look a bit of a twat if none of the other parties chose to engage with this PR stunt. It will be interesting to see how this one pans out.

PerkingFaintly · Today 16:58

I'm not sure Farage on his own is that politically aware.

He needs the help of people in the orbit of Trump's strategist, Steve Bannon.

BTW, those freebie services from Bannon associate Alexandra Preate and her firm CapitalHQ are another thing Farage forgot to declare in the register of MP's interests.

He further forgot to declare that CapitalHQ paid his $3,531.10 hotel bill at the Hilton Garden Inn during the 2024 Republican National Convention.

All while he was an MP in the UK House of Commons.

According to their own declaration, CapitalHQ's work for Farage included “promotion, perception management, public relations, speeches, appearances, communications, travel, accommodation and logistics and other political activities in furtherance of political interests of the foreign principal”.

Farage given free team of US PR advisers by former Bannon aide’s firm
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/17/farage-given-free-team-of-us-pr-advisers-by-former-bannon-aides-firm

Farage given free team of US PR advisers by former Bannon aide’s firm

Reform UK leader received support for his American activities after becoming an MP but has not declared the services as a benefit

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/17/farage-given-free-team-of-us-pr-advisers-by-former-bannon-aides-firm

SadiraOfTyr · Today 16:58

KeepPumping · Today 15:39

Have any of them applied for politics?

One of them is a local councillor. Do you think Dan Jarvis had a proper job? He's never run or worked for a business as far as I know.

PerkingFaintly · Today 17:00

TopPocketFind · Today 16:56

A shopkeeper who did immense damage to this country.

I doubt Boris wants to live in Clacton or give up the money he is earning giving talks.

Neither does Nigel. Grin

He's doesn't live in Clacton and he hasn't given up his other gigs.

Loubissou · Today 17:01

Nowisthetimeforicecream · Today 15:56

He did trigger a bi-election to run himself. He bribed Josh Simons with a plumb job to stand down - paying with public money!

Evidence?

TopPocketFind · Today 17:02

PerkingFaintly · Today 17:00

Neither does Nigel. Grin

He's doesn't live in Clacton and he hasn't given up his other gigs.

Bring back Boris didn't go well last time iirc

BrandiedAromatics · Today 17:03

Nowisthetimeforicecream · Today 16:57

There is no way a 32 years with a shit CV like Simons would get a £200,000 "special" role if he hadn't made way for the king. I'd beat my boittom dollar that if it hadn't worked out Simons would have popped up as an "advisor" to Burnham as Manchester Mayor.

It is just the same labour cronyism that saw Mandleson as US ambassador.

My point is that I will call it out when I see it and I will even more when people aren't choosing to see it. So let's all unite in calling out the horrendous company and handouts pocketed by Farage. Just look into the credentials of George Cottrell .....

Nowisthetimeforicecream · Today 17:04

Loubissou · Today 17:01

Evidence?

Former Makerfield MP lined up for key role under Burnham

ByGraptharsHammer · Today 17:08

It looks like the other parties may not stand at all. Which puts Farage right back in where he left, with the investigation still pending

JimBobsWife · Today 17:08

Notmycircusnotmyotter · Today 15:12

You can't oppose this by election while supporting the Makerfield by election (and subsequent mayoral election). Both a huge waste of taxpayers' money.

They are a little bit different. He's standing down only to stand again for the same seat. As stunts go, it's quite impressive.

LoftyPlumLion · Today 17:09

Amazing how reform deflect onto Burnham rather than tackle the foreign bribe their man took, and then repeatedly lied about.

Or maybe we should talk about his house purchase, did he buy it? His partner? Her family? Lie, lie, lie again.

Quick everyone deflect, the bigger boys made him do it, it's all their fault miss, we can't possibly take any responsibility for our actions. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

5128gap · Today 17:10

BrandiedAromatics · Today 16:51

It was reasonably certain that Makerfield would go to Burnham through all the projections. Simons had been exposed for trying to undermine journalists and had to step down from his aide role. He had nowhere to go in Westminster. He can go to Downing Street with Burnham, though.

Well hindsight always 20/20, isn't it? I don't recall it being at all certain. Who knows what may have happened had the left not united, the right not split, and Reform had managed to find someone who wasn't a misogynist half wit to represent them?

Nowisthetimeforicecream · Today 17:13

ByGraptharsHammer · Today 17:08

It looks like the other parties may not stand at all. Which puts Farage right back in where he left, with the investigation still pending

Then he will constantly say they were all too scared of Reform to stand against him. Which would be true in that case.

Nowisthetimeforicecream · Today 17:15

5128gap · Today 17:10

Well hindsight always 20/20, isn't it? I don't recall it being at all certain. Who knows what may have happened had the left not united, the right not split, and Reform had managed to find someone who wasn't a misogynist half wit to represent them?

The king didn't resign as Mayor Manchester - he hedged his bets. I he hadn't of won Simons would have popped up as an advisor in Manchester. It was a safe bet for a low grade MP.

Chenecinquantecinq · Today 17:16

SinnerBoy · Today 16:41

Chenecinquantecinq

Now compare this to Farage's daughter actually having people turn up at her address. Can people not see the problem? We live in dark times.

Hmm. There's no Police report, not even in his head. I don't believe a word of it, he'd definitely have reported it, were it true.

Farage has just released the CCTV footage seems Sky lied again today. Do people not realise were permanently lied to?

TemperanceWest · Today 17:17

If Sky lied that is really bad. His daughter has nothing to do with any of this.