Labour isn't Working - Thread 36

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A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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That's DH's objection. I hadn't realised there was such an issue.

@NoWordForFluffy I think he's useless but incredibly dangerous and self Serving he's very invested into companies around net zero and I believe his wife has something to do with it all as well.

An engineer told me it's not the solar panels themselves that are the risk but the installation of the wiring to the system by inexperienced workers that is.

Urgh. That's really bad.

Surely people are suing for negligence if that's what's happening? Sounds like the insurers of the installers will have to issue a warning to them if it's a real issue.

I was told by a friend who looked into getting panels that the industry has a lot of cowboys in it. I think I’d be waiting a few years until things become more established.

But as I have more urgent house expenditure, like trying to stop all the windows falling out and getting the front door to close properly, I’m not in the market for solar panels for now anyway!

Expensive stuff

🙄 bloody hell ! Cowboys pushing these things out fast !!
I'm in terraced housing id be terrified of a neighbour got some

@DenizenOfAisleOfShame me also I've got 100s of other house hold bits and pieces that need doing.

Remember the push to get foam stuff in lofts and that wasn't done properly causing risks and property value decreasing

Our attached neighbour looked into it, but decided that the costs were too high to go ahead.

I know that Wickes are in the solar market. You'd hope that a company like that would avoid cowboy installers (they bought a company already in existence).

Houses with that aren't mortgageable. And sometimes you have to replace the entire roof to get rid of it. 😱

I’m sure there are good and reliable installers. I guess it’s like anything else to do with building/home improvement, you have to vet carefully.

Wasn’t there a problem with cavity wall insulation as well? I seem to remember a consumer documentary about it.

It's been a nightmare for a friend they had a bay window with damp. They decided on cavity insulation. The damp got worse and spread. They had the firm back twice. No improvement. DH knows a bit about cavity insulation having had a friend who remedies these issues so sent him round. OH joy the cavity was full of rubble etc and the path was above the recommended height for a property of that age.

They had to accrow prop the bay remove the plasterwork etc, dig out the insulation and rubble and make good. It helped enormously.

Unfortunately the owner refused to dig up the concrete path around the frontage which was part of the issue so they still have a bit of damp.

As for expanding foam around windows. That's the devils work.

Yeah. That was a money making racket when the government was funding it. Not every house is suitable for CWI and, as just says, you can get massive damp issues if it's not.

i've also heard that there's a problem with the National Grid and it needs upgrading before it can cope with solar power installations. Didn't they turn them off in the previous heat wave? I can totally believe the National Grid needs a lot of changes. One of many reasons I worry about our infrastructure.

The poster saying that the roof of their new build isn't strong enough for it, that might be an explanation with regards to car park as well. If the roof of even a domestic build can't cope with it then I can't imagine that your standard car park roof would be okay - and now I'm just thinking about the insurance, no car park owner is going to want to take the risk of damaged cars

It is currently being upgraded @SapphireCasino - it's called the Great Grid Upgrade. And yes, a major reason is the need for increased capacity due to inputs from all the new solar farms, but we need all that extra electricity because so many devices - including electric vehicles - require electricity. Here, for anyone that's interested: https://www.nationalgrid.com/the-great-grid-upgrade

Solar panels mandatory in carparks in France /fantastic that now when you stop at a service station you can park in the shade.

@cheezncrackers thanks - that's good to know!

At present if we all went out and bought an electric car would the grid cope?

You just need an mcs accredited installer. I keep seeing people on my local Facebook page ask for an electrician and they should say no because they don't have the training or the insurance but who knows what arrangements people come to. You wouldn't be able to get your electricity supplier to feed into the grid without all the paperwork though.

Anyway, interesting to see find out now and More in Common have labour falling back three points this week. It's not the robust bounce that they hoped for.

Idk. The good thing about electric cars is that most people charge overnight when the grid is less busy.

Plus, we are on the cusp of being able to use the batteries of cars as an extension of the grid. So the grid can deposit excess into plugged in cars and can draw from them when the grid is low, so they have the potential to balance the grid and make more use of our green energy.

Our grid system is old as hell though. It would need sorting even without electric cars.

Down three from up six? I suppose he’s not really in yet. When he’s more in people’s faces with PMQs, pushing out SM clips it’ll get more real.

Yes, I mean losing 3 points before he hits the ground is significant. Kemi is holding the line, Reform is losing ground. It's going to get really interesting.

Utterly shocking news that the police are treating Ann Widdecombe’s death as potentially a murder.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cp9l8l05vxet

Press conference at 4.30pm