Help me not to tell DP it's his own stupid fault

[Kingfisherfly]

And offer words of encouragement.

First I'll say I don't have a perfect driving record and have points on my licemce, from doing 27 in a 20 limit without realising it wasn't 30.

DP has done similar, although this time it was 72 in a 50 (not 70) limit. He was pulled over by a police officer on a motorbike, who he felt enjoyed his job a little too much, and is incensed that he was only going at the speed of the traffic, why him etc (yes, I know I'm taking that with a pinch of salt).

Beyond that he's worried about what it will mean re points and/or a ban, mainly because of how it will affect work.

He wasn't given any paperwork at the time, and hasn't received any yet. At what point does he tell his insurance company?

And what will likely happen next?

Oh shit
there is a very real likelihood then he will receive a ban for 6 months

this wasn’t just mild speeding . This was very reckless

quite possible could be driving without due diligence and attention

Accumulating 12 or more penalty points within three years—known as "totting up"—usually results in an automatic minimum 6-month driving disqualification. You will be summoned to a Magistrates' Court where the ban is typically imposed,

I think he'll be happier to get a short ban than points. He'd manage without a car for a while. He's worried about having a ban hanging over him if he's got say 9 points. I.e. one more offence would mean a ban.

3 + 6 is 9?

No you have misunderstood

he will get the points
which will mean he reaches the threshold for a ban AS WELL

plus he will have to declare for years ahead that he received a ban
might as well hire a private plane

You still get the points as well as a ban.

If he receives a summons to the magistrates court - and he hasn't yet - he should expect a Band B fine which is 100% of week's net income (not a month) with a 1/3 reduction if he pleads guilty at the first appearance. They will ask him what he earns and he should tell them his average take home pay. Courts don't have the resources to check peoples tax returns!

I would anticipate 5 points (but it could be 6) and he will still have a little wiggle room before becoming a totter.

When he receives the points, not before, he should contact his insurance company. It might have no impact on his premium.

He cannot choose to take a short ban instead of points - that's not how it works.

He got 3 points less than 2 years ago

He didn’t just go higher than the limit he SMASHED it.

I think he will be very lucky not to get 9 points which would mean 6 month ban

Has he not already dealt with the renewal?

Insurers ask if there's anything else that you know about that is likely to affect if you would get insurance. I think he's screwed for insurance at the mo to be honest, I don't think any decent insurer would offer him insurance until they know what's what, and if he witholds the information (that he's just been caught speeding and is awaiting further information) his insurance will be invalid.

There is no way he will get 9 points for 72 in a 50. The sentencing guidelines are public - https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/guidelines/speeding-revised-2017/?source=7510

On the back of 3 points for speeding not even 2 years ago

Yes

but that doesn’t reflect of the person already has a live speed conviction that resulted in 3 points

added to which, it is explicit that those punishments are the starting point

@Aninkling & @AndWorseAFemale both of you are just making stuff up which is not helpful to the OP.

The sentencing guideline is 4-6 points, they can’t just give him 9 cos they feel like it ffs😂

and worse a female, its a potential speeding conviction. Depending on the wording, he may need to tell them but most likely they will say we can’t do anything till you know the conviction/points/fine, literally because they won’t have anything to input onto their system such as the conviction code, fine, points which they will use for rating. He does need to tell them once he knows

He will probably get a ban and a fine.

Band B can be up to 6 points or a short ban and also a fine up to £2500, his argument of he was going at the traffic speed is arrogant and stupid, he should be embarrassed not trying to badmouth the police officer.

What sort of road was it? DH didn't realise he was in a 50 zone on a motorway. There was no other traffic around (5 a.m.) and he just had to do a speed awareness course. On a smaller road that speed is much more serious

I would imagine this isnt the first time he’ll have bad mouthed police

Those guidelines are a “starting point” irrespective of any past convictions

he has a live conviction

is he on your insurance?
if so you will have to tell them as well and your premium will probably go up as well next time

Well since you can only do 70 on a dual carriageway/motorway it's not like he made a mistake. I would tell him it's his own stupid fault

It was a dual carriageway, with a 50 limit.

He knows it's his own stupid fault, what does havimg someone who's supposed to love him piling on improve anything about the situation?

The guidelines aren't a starting point (although in exceptional circumstances magistrates will go outside them). The starting point, in this example, is 4 points and because his speed was towards the higher end of that range he might expect 5 or even 6 points.

On a separate matter, if the police do decide to pursue this, they have 14 days to contact you.

You’re going to be seriously impacted by this if he gets or ban

and if he doesn’t - then his premiums given he has two offences within 5 years and all those points will be eye watering.

It explicitly states on the link you posted that they are a starting point and do not factor in past convictions

Don’t need to yell your insurance now as there is nothing yet to tell.
As and when he gets points, that’s when he tells them. They’ll ask how many points, and also what fine was, or at least they did a friend of mine. My friend was doing similar to your husband, it cost her £500 (which was a fine and court costs or something like that) and I think it was 4 or 5 points. She wasn’t offered a speed awareness course.
From memory, her insurance didn’t really increase much at all.