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3 year old injured by crocodiles - man arrested

409 replies

DecisionTime123 · 18/06/2026 19:18

So I assume the man deliberately placed the child into the crocodile enclosure. Psychopath? Sounds similar to the man who threw the boy off the Tate?

(And also, not connected but these places are shit for the animals and should be shut down)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx50n2vj74o

(& apologies if thread already started?)

A crocodile with its mouth open  in an enclosure near a wooden walkway going through the centre

Man arrested after boy injured in zoo crocodile enclosure

A 30-year-old man has been arrested after a child ended up in a crocodile enclosure at a farm zoo.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx50n2vj74o

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XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:43

KvotheTheBloodless · 18/06/2026 21:39

Those carers will be on minimum wage, or close to it. How much responsibility is it appropriate to put onto people paid so little?

Carers on 2:1 should be properly supervising.
I know people say they see carers out on their phone.. I have too, but their client has been sat eating or chatting to someone else at that time.

Happytaytos · 18/06/2026 21:43

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:41

How on earth would they know that before it happened?
Did they sit him down and ask him?
People with profound SN can act unpredictably. I doubt there was anything in his care plan about possibly picking up a child and throwing them over a railing.

The unpredictability means proper supervision is needed then. Because we can't have a world where these incidents are OK because SEN.

Inastatus · 18/06/2026 21:43

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:41

How on earth would they know that before it happened?
Did they sit him down and ask him?
People with profound SN can act unpredictably. I doubt there was anything in his care plan about possibly picking up a child and throwing them over a railing.

@XenoBitch - his carers shouldn’t have allowed him to be near this child.

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:44

Inastatus · 18/06/2026 21:41

So awful. They should consider having separate visiting hours for severely mentally ill/sn.

Why? So you don't have to see them?

MushroomQueen · 18/06/2026 21:44

It’s high up, it’s a very deliberate act to throw a kid in there. I go with my kids every year. Cannot fathom it why they would - it’s awful

BlushingBrightly · 18/06/2026 21:44

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:26

So this man should never be out then?

No, he shouldn't. Not because he has, reportedly, a learning disability. Because he acted on a violent impulse, hurt someone and could have killed them. For other people to be safe he can't be allowed out like this, certainly without strong evidence that he'd never do this kind of thing again, which would be almost impossible to provide.

frozendaisy · 18/06/2026 21:44

It’s usually best to wait and find out the actual event rather than assumptions from social media.

If this man has severe needs he won’t be sent to prison he will be placed in a secure mental health facility.

A three year old was picked up, and thrown down into a pen of crocodiles.

He will be tried under the law with his mental capacity taken into full consideration, as his human rights.

You are not allowed to throw three year olds into crocodile pens no matter who you are, and keep your freedom afterwards.

This incident will be investigated in minute detail.

Can you imagine if it was your three year old who got thrown over? Being locked up is probably the safest place for the man right now.

I wouldn’t give a shit about his human rights if he threw my baby over the railings. He needs to be locked up somewhere. He went for a child and threw them to a crocodile. Establishing how much of that was a conscious decision, well that might be hard, but even with diminished responsibility it’s still an act of pure wrong.

Happytaytos · 18/06/2026 21:45

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:44

Why? So you don't have to see them?

No, so they don't harm innocent children.

Kirbert2 · 18/06/2026 21:45

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:43

Carers on 2:1 should be properly supervising.
I know people say they see carers out on their phone.. I have too, but their client has been sat eating or chatting to someone else at that time.

Yep.

My son has 2:1 support at school. Of course they are paid far too little for what they do but it is their job and part of their job is supervising/keeping the child and others around them safe if necessary.

Britneyfan · 18/06/2026 21:45

@RonaldMcDonaldTrump I’ve seen a few comments on Facebook saying the fact the man’s name or photo hasn’t been released given he’s already been arrested for attempted murder “tells us all we need to know” etc etc.

I didn’t find that unusual at all while the news is still fairly fresh, but I have to say I thought it was being reported a bit weirdly in that several news agencies were reporting it with the headline of “3 year old ended up in crocodile enclosure” as opposed to “3 year old thrown into crocodile enclosure” which from several accounts is more like what may have happened.

But if the man in question has a learning disability or something it makes a lot more sense of all of that. I can imagine a scenario where a learning disabled person sees a small child trying to get a better look at the crocs and trying to be helpful lifts them up or even over the barrier then accidentally drops them, or even may not understand the dangers at all and deliberately drop the child in. I think we just have to wait and find out more details. I would have thought that barrier was addquate and it probably is in most circumstances but not where there is an adult incapable of understanding the dangers perhaps.

@MrsTerryPratchett thank goodness for some humanity. People with learning disabilities and/or mental health difficulties are not criminals, and legally there are robust processes in place for depriving someone of their liberty if they are felt to be a risk to themselves or others. I do personally agree that too many “mental health asylums” have been shut in favour of care in the community, leaving a serious lack of inpatient psychiatric beds. And I very much suspect some of that was funding driven as well as ideological. However there are also good reasons for moving things more towards care in the community rather than institutionalising people who are simply unwell or disabled. It allows people to live more normal lives. Look at those dating shows for people with learning disabilities etc. Nobody would have imagined when I was a kid in the 1980s that we’d see people with eg Downs syndrome achieve that sort of normalcy in their lives. Let alone see them become models and professional atheletes etc. That’s a very positive thing in my opinion. But yes the carers are largely there because these are vulnerable people open to exploitation by others, not to be able to overpower them as they’re such a danger to the public.

As someone who had puerperal psychosis and ended up under section in a mother and baby unit (and quite rightly too, it’s exactly what I needed), I don’t think locking innocent people up for illness or disability alone is the answer at all. And even though I understand why I was sectioned, and prevented from escaping when I tried, you really have no idea how psychologically difficult it is to not be in charge of even small decisions in your own life or be able to go for a short walk on a nice day etc. Deproving someone of their poverty, particularly where no crime has been committed is not and should not be taken lightly.

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:47

Inastatus · 18/06/2026 21:43

@XenoBitch - his carers shouldn’t have allowed him to be near this child.

Edited

Did they know he was a danger to children? What were the parents doing?

We don't know what happened there.

As an example, the child could have been running up and down the walkway shouting. The person could have found the noise overwhelming, and acted out by picking the child up and throwing them over the barrier.
Or they might have overheard the kid say they love crocodiles, and threw them over so they could see them.
Both a bit mad, I admit, but entirely plausible.
But we don't know.

All we all know is someone threw a kid over the railing. Everything else is speculation until the facts come out.

Kirbert2 · 18/06/2026 21:47

Happytaytos · 18/06/2026 21:45

No, so they don't harm innocent children.

The vast, vast majority don't.

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:48

Happytaytos · 18/06/2026 21:45

No, so they don't harm innocent children.

Why are you assuming that anyone with SN is harmful to children.
They often have the mental age of a child themselves.

BlushingBrightly · 18/06/2026 21:49

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:41

How on earth would they know that before it happened?
Did they sit him down and ask him?
People with profound SN can act unpredictably. I doubt there was anything in his care plan about possibly picking up a child and throwing them over a railing.

I would wager that somewhere in his history or treatment record he'll have expressed the desire to inflict significant harm on someone. It'll been ignored cos budgets, human rights, staff overworked, he was fine last week.

Inastatus · 18/06/2026 21:49

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:44

Why? So you don't have to see them?

😅 yeah, of course that’s what I meant in the context of the whole thread. WTF.

Happytaytos · 18/06/2026 21:49

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:48

Why are you assuming that anyone with SN is harmful to children.
They often have the mental age of a child themselves.

I'm not assuming all do. But as you have said their actions can be unpredictable and in this case very dangerous. So a time when there are fewer people and no small children in the zoo would be less risky for them to visit.

nomas · 18/06/2026 21:50

Men are getting out of control. Where does it end?!

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:52

BlushingBrightly · 18/06/2026 21:44

No, he shouldn't. Not because he has, reportedly, a learning disability. Because he acted on a violent impulse, hurt someone and could have killed them. For other people to be safe he can't be allowed out like this, certainly without strong evidence that he'd never do this kind of thing again, which would be almost impossible to provide.

But he was out in the community, so has not acted this way before

You can't lock up all people with SN just in case

MarshaMarshaMarsha · 18/06/2026 21:53

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:44

Why? So you don't have to see them?

No, so they don’t randomly chuck me into an enclosure with wild animals 🤨

OrigamiRabbit · 18/06/2026 21:54

If it's the case that he had carers but they were on their phones and not paying attention to what he was doing, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

Years ago I was attending some classes and a man was there who had severe learning difficulties. He seemed benign enough and I - along with pretty much everyone else - thought it was great that he was able to join in the class.

Except that he took a shine to me (he'd told several people in the class that he wanted me to be his girlfriend) and one night he followed me to my car. Most other people had already left so I was alone in a dark car park, he was a lot bigger than me and it scared the hell out of me.

In the run up to this, every time he attended the class he had a different carer. And every single one of them spent the entire time they were there glued to their phone. He could have done anything and they wouldn't have noticed. They didn't notice that he left the class which was a risk to him, as much as anything else.

I get that it's not a great job and I expect it's poorly paid. But that's absolutely no excuse of failure of the duty of care to vulnerable people and the others they might harm.

Hjsjshsn · 18/06/2026 21:54

Family live near to the farm. I hate it, always left me feeling nervous with my children, just didn’t feel secure and I vetoed going a few years ago. I also didn’t like how the animals were treated and I saw practices that just felt like it was an e-coil time bomb waiting to happen. Never could have fathomed this in a million years though. Thinking about the boy and his family this evening.

DaisyChain505 · 18/06/2026 21:55

Happytaytos · 18/06/2026 21:36

Oh come off it. It's reasonable to expect that people won't throw other people over a barrier into a crocodile pit.

The fault lies with the man who threw the child and possibly with carers not supervising. This isn't the fault of the zoo.

Accidents also happen. Children climb things, people slip and fall. Either way, if this wasn’t a possibility to start with this boy wouldn’t have nearly lost his life. I wouldn’t be surprised if the zoo is told to immediately change its set up.

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:55

Happytaytos · 18/06/2026 21:49

I'm not assuming all do. But as you have said their actions can be unpredictable and in this case very dangerous. So a time when there are fewer people and no small children in the zoo would be less risky for them to visit.

So you don't have to see them?

Why are you assuming that anyone with a carer is dangerous to kids?

MarshaMarshaMarsha · 18/06/2026 21:55

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:48

Why are you assuming that anyone with SN is harmful to children.
They often have the mental age of a child themselves.

Somewhere along the line surely those who should have been looking after him would have had some indication what he was capable of. Obviously you can’t think of all scenarios but he should not have been in this zoo (or any public setting) unless properly supervised.

Happytaytos · 18/06/2026 21:55

XenoBitch · 18/06/2026 21:52

But he was out in the community, so has not acted this way before

You can't lock up all people with SN just in case

I'll wager a bet that there will have been some indicator in his actions and possibly words before the incident.

I don't think anyone has said lock up all people with SEN just in case. People are reasonable to point out that incidents from people with SEN or severe MH problems are on the rise. Therefore more precautions are needed to protect the public.