3 year old injured by crocodiles - man arrested

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So I assume the man deliberately placed the child into the crocodile enclosure. Psychopath? Sounds similar to the man who threw the boy off the Tate?

(And also, not connected but these places are shit for the animals and should be shut down)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx50n2vj74o

(& apologies if thread already started?)

It is high up, the walk way is about 3m/10ft above the crocs, from memory. I took my toddler there earlier this year and was worried that they could squeeze through gaps in the walkways in some places.

I assume the crocs house will have to close, but I hope the whole enterprise survives, it's a lovely day out when bloody awful things aren't happening :/

So this man should never be out then?

and so it begins.

It is an awful situation. Fingers crossed he makes a full recovery.

I don't think it's sad at all. If he's done this, he should be locked up fo prevent him harming others. It's only sad that it wasn't realised sooner that he was dangerous and capable of something like this.

Well given he threw a child into a crocodile enclosure, even under the supervision of two carers he probably shouldn’t be out and about!

Sounds like a you problem...
And yes, human rights apply to all luckily. You dont get to pick and choose

I think it sad that a disabled person will lose their freedom and liberates... not due to a crime but because of the utter failure of the people caring for them.

I suppose the point on funding is valid - if he has 2 carers it can’t be about money

and in terms of him being out and about - I assume they will have had to do a risk assessment and it will have to be considered whether or not this was done correctly

I don’t think the barriers look adequate as they’re not designed to stop someone picking a child up and throwing them over

He can be out if safe to be. Clearly in this circumstance he wasn't safe and has been allowed to cause harm to a child.

With rights come responsibilities.

Hopefully the carers were supervising him adequately.

I read this story earlier and was shocked that someone would do this to a random child. That poor baby and his family having to witness it. I do hope his injuries are not life altering.

2 carers doesn't always mean the person has challenging behaviour though. It can also just be because the person cannot be left alone when a carer needs the toilet, so two carers are needed. Speculation about the man's disability or his carers abilities to keep him and others around him safe can be quite harmful if not found true.

However, as a side note, there is a carer crisis in the UK, I've seen many carers over the last few years just do the job as they want a wage, not because it's something they want to do, and depending on the employer, very little training is given before you're expected to just know what to do. It's an easy job to get into, not easy to actually do it well.

If there wasn’t the ability to be able to throw someone into the enclosure this wouldn’t have happened. From the picture provided by another poster it shows the exact set up and that glass or even safety netting at a minimum should have been in place.

I think that throwing someone into a crocodile pit is considered a crime. Also, you’re assuming he hasn’t got mental capacity, but we don’t know whether he has or has not. If he has, then he’s responsible, although obviously the carers should be investigated as well, to see if they were negligent or not.

Why should he have not been out and about?
Are disabled people with SN to be locked up and never go out? Ever?

I mentioned the lady I see with 2 carers upthread. She goes to my local Costa... always has the same drink. Her carers use Makaton with her. She comes across as enjoying her time there. But, if you get to close to her, she tries to bite you. But from a distance, she will wave at you and give a sweet smile.
Why on earth should she be locked up and never experience all the things we take for granted?

Yes, I'm completely with you on this.

Absolutely terrifying. I have a 20 month old and he's usually on reigns (he absolutely won't hold my hand) I was beginning to think i will relax that, but reading this and others, I dont think I will!

Oh come off it. It's reasonable to expect that people won't throw other people over a barrier into a crocodile pit.

The fault lies with the man who threw the child and possibly with carers not supervising. This isn't the fault of the zoo.

Always a fucking man

The barrier is the same height as the ones in multi story shops. How many news articles are there about kids falling off them, or people throwing kids over them?
This just feels like you are trying to blame the zoo owners. I read the owner's wife jumped into the enclosure to save the boy. A hero in my eyes.

Lots of speculation about his skin colour and being an immigrant.
Someone even said it was a terrorist act 🙄
One poster even said his name (an obviously foreign one). I Googled it, and the only hit was their comment.

Are you mad? OF COURSE someone capable of throwing a toddler into a crocodile enclosure shouldn’t be out and about. What on earth am I reading.

Those carers will be on minimum wage, or close to it. How much responsibility is it appropriate to put onto people paid so little?

It’s unbelievable I couldn’t believe what I heard, he was thrown into the crocodile enclosure.

A 30 year old arrested on attempted murder.

Every day awful things happening, someone seriously dangerous mixing near children.

Hope he pulls through, thoughts are with the family. They must be in bits a lovely day out ends in unimaginable horror.

How on earth would they know that before it happened?
Did they sit him down and ask him?
People with profound SN can act unpredictably. I doubt there was anything in his care plan about possibly picking up a child and throwing them over a railing.

So awful. They should consider having separate visiting hours for severely mentally ill/sn.