Labour isn't Working - Thread 35

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A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour* *government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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The cup doesn’t exactly runneth over with feasible prospective candidates, is my point.

Not many from the cabinet in the HoC to greet Burnham.
Just Bridget, but she looked like she was chewing a wasp. 😂 Let's hope she gets fired soon.

I heard "naughty boy" shouted, and "Rome is saved".

Haha at naughty boy, is it from the Messiah quote.

Labour MPs cheering at his signing. All the talk of the media and us 😅 being responsible. Look to happy Labour back benchers.

Ikr. 😂 I knew we'd get some blame. He failed, the end.

Will be nice not to see and hear Bollard every day, waffling on in that awful voice.

Who will go to the Nato summit now? Starmer can't go surely?

Ik not sure. And the EU summit

Oh, two years on this thread, waiting for this very moment, and I missed all the good stuff.

Need to go back over and catch up.

Yy, NATO, how embarrassing. I suppose we'll still send Starmer and everyone will ignore him, he can make the tea or something.

We are responsible? Okay, I may go for a wander on the various political threads and see where this is coming from. That's so funny. Watch this space to see how we mould the world from this tiny patch of the internet like the Bond Villains we all are. 😅

There’s about twenty of us, I haven’t counted.

What influence and power 😅

🤣🤣
We should take it as a compliment.

🤣 I found it. Personally, I think we have been very fair with doling out criticism liberally across the whole of the Labour Party. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I thought that too. Standard MN lack of comprehension though really!

What did you find, and where?

And generally for the regulars, what were the interventions this morning from elsewhere? I can see comments about them but I can’t see anything from visitors.

Check your pm's.

Can someone pm me too, I’ve got terrible fomo

@Upstartled Could you pm me also, please?

PM too please.

Interesting piece on Labour List by Al Carns.

The next leader has to govern differently' - LabourList https://share.google/kTlQxxwAw93rr7qRc

I don't know if he is just jockeying for a ministerial position but I do think he writes persuasively and the youth triple lock and consigning NEETs to history is strong.

There does seem to be a bit of a view that good leaders face being hounded out by hostile media. With the implication that maybe something should be done about the media.

Or maybe, it would be a good idea to elect a leader who could cope with robust criticism. It wasn't hard to imagine Margaret Thatcher enthusiastically getting up at dawn to sharpen her handbag in anticipation of PMQs or a challenging interview.

I wonder how Kemi or Nigel or Zack would get on, day in day out.

I do think social media amplifies difference but this is the thing, a lot of us centre types are desperate for Labour to take responsibility for unleashing a welter of rushed decisions without vision that nobody wanted, and then sneering when criticised.

not forgetting all the endless floating/leaking of taxes pre budget and then denying they did it.

the political establishment - experts, journalists, civil servants - they lost them too. The media didn’t do that…

And me? I know I'm new!

I listened to Ed & George’s Hot Take earlier.

Ed said he thought that the next few weeks will see lots of jockeying from minor players who want a good job. They’ll talk about wanting there to be a robust debate and get themselves on all the tv/radio shows but when it comes to actually putting their name forward by 16 July they’ll proclaim to have seen the light re Andy and throw their support behind him.

He also implied Labour would look very silly if not a single woman put themselves forward, even if only to be part of the debate.

So my overriding memory of Starmer will be him calling Kemi "totally irrelevant ".

Whose irrelevant now Sir Kier?

True. Karma

Burnham's on manoeuvres - already wooing the older population.

Pensioners apparently represent a significant proportion of the electorate, and Reeves alienated many of them within weeks of her appointment by withdrawing the WFA. Even though it was reinstated less than a year later, I doubt she has ever been forgiven for her catastrophic faux pas.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/2423af0803d51538