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Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 16:12

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · Yesterday 15:47

Do you really think women on here support white men and British men committing rapes and murders?
That’s a huge allegation

No but some of the people who are at the forefront of the agitation in the UK HAVE very openly supported white men who committed rapes and murders. Eg...

Tommy Robinson- openly and very publicly backed Connor McGregor; happy to stand with Putin despite the very well documented sexual crimes committed by his army in Ukraine; reacted to the rape of a Sikh women by saying it was wrong because "we don't have a problem with Sikhs"; friends with a man who set up a chat bot that makes sexually explicit images of real women and children on request.

Nigel Farage - also very chummy with Connor McGregor; mentioned numerous times in the Epstein files, has multiple friends/connections in common with Epstein, very open admiration of trump another adjudicated rapist with several allegations of CSA against him; openly supported Andrew Tate a man with multiple active sexual assault cases against him

Connor McGregor himself - a violent rapist

Elon Musk - spent 100s of millions of dollars getting a man elected to President whom Musk himself claimed was a paedophile; described McGregor as Ireland's last hope; tried to get onto Epstein's island but failed; created a tool on his "free speech" social media site that lets you undress children to their underwear and then post the pictures with a click of a button, settled at least one sexual harassment case out of court.

1/4 of the recent rioters - had DV, assault and other criminal convictions

None of those men care about sexual violence. If you want to listen to them then more fool you. Women on here that support men that support. If people really cared about violence against men (the victim of the stabbing was a man) they wouldn't be trying to invite more violence in which more men would be hurt. Including white men.

Miyagi99 · Yesterday 16:13

PropertyD · Yesterday 15:23

My son's friend has just finished her medical training. Is moving to Australia...something has gone very wrong where we fund the training and then import foreign trained medical Drs leaving few jobs for the young people

Well we import them because people like to live all over the world which they can with that qualification!

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 16:13

CheeseyOnionPie · Yesterday 16:10

They are far right because the demonstrations are only put on when it’s a non-white person who has committed a heinous crime.

Where were the demonstrations when Louise Hunt, Hannah Hunt and Carol Hunt were all murdered by crossbow killer, Kyle Clifford?

Don’t be ridiculous. That was terrible - but a domestic murder. Everyone was appalled but a “known to the victim” is never as concerning as a random stranger murder.

chaos76 · Yesterday 16:13

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 15:44

Brought on by an attack done by an attacker who targeted someone because of the colour of their skin… but that’s all ok yeah?

you don’t know why he attacked you are just assuming because the victim was white

VillageFete · Yesterday 16:13

soddingspiderseason · Yesterday 16:10

X is awful. Its been reported on BBC. People - unfortunately - get stabbed everyday. Why so much interest in this?

One reason may be because it was an attempted beheading. Not a stabbing.

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 16:14

chaos76 · Yesterday 16:13

you don’t know why he attacked you are just assuming because the victim was white

And you are just assuming that everyone on these protests are racist! So I’m using your own logic right back at you. Or are you unable to see past your own hypocrisy?

FlyingWithBingoWings · Yesterday 16:14

MsJinks · Yesterday 15:56

Are you saying that today it’s ok to be a racist, just it wasn’t a few years ago?

And we are supposed to be progressing …

I'm not the poster you are referring to but you raise an interesting point.

The definition of Racism has been extended and extended and extended. It has been so extended, so wide a net that now almost everyone-apart from those clothed in celestial garments and whose shit doesn't stink-has finds themselves entangled on it.

We even have posters on here wondering if it is racist to call a Chinese takeaway, a Chinese and the answer to that, according to many who responded, was that it was indeed racist to do this.

So, to many people-maybe not on these boards-the word 'Racism; has now lost its power. It becomes something to laugh at in a derisory way.

There are two aspects to this-one positive and one negative.

The Negative: When a real racist incident occurs-like someone being denied a job or assaulted becuse of the colour of their skin-people tend to just shrug their shoulders. They are no longer upset or shocked by it.

The Positive: People are no longer held hostage by the ever widening definition of racism. They know that much of it is nonsense and are no longer scared of being called racist if they put cornrows in the hair of their daughter.

So yes, we are progressing.

There will be a sweet spot but there has to be a correction of the ever widening net of the definition of racism. It went too far-until almost everyone felt themselves to be guilty of racism even if it was simply not acknowledging their so called White Privilege or not believing in positive discrimination rather than simple equality.

It became like the French Revolution where, even-in the end-even the most ardent revolutionaries were executed.

So yes, progress is being made.

BackToLurk · Yesterday 16:14

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 16:13

Don’t be ridiculous. That was terrible - but a domestic murder. Everyone was appalled but a “known to the victim” is never as concerning as a random stranger murder.

Where were the demonstrations when the rich, privately educated killer of Yousef Makki walked away scot free?

KerryWeaversSpecs · Yesterday 16:16

chaos76 · Yesterday 15:43

if you live in Belfast then you will know this is not a protest about immigration its an excuse to attack people for the colour of their skin

It is really shocking that people on this thread are advocating for violence on the streets of Belfast. I hope you and yours and everyone else who just wants peace not chaos in Belfast stay safe tonight.

LoremIpsumCici · Yesterday 16:16

Why is this particular attack being focussed on when there are around 130 knife homicides (50,000 attacks) per year in the UK?

chaos76 · Yesterday 16:16

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 16:14

And you are just assuming that everyone on these protests are racist! So I’m using your own logic right back at you. Or are you unable to see past your own hypocrisy?

lol no right minded peace loving citizens will be at these protests just bigots

38thparallel · Yesterday 16:16

chaos76 · Today 15:45
there is no evidence the attack was racist

Oh well that’s okay then…..so long as it wasn’t racist, that’s the main thing.

Brainstorm23 · Yesterday 16:17

Mainstream news outlets like the BBC are all reporting this but they can't put out all the gory details for tedious legal reasons that ghouls on Facebook and Twitter don't abide by.

Coincidentally it's the anniversary of the last set of race riots we had in NI and that ended up with the charges being quietly dropped - www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crl9kd2pne2o That's unlikely to happen here but have a bit of sense and don't believe everything you read online.

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 16:18

chaos76 · Yesterday 16:16

lol no right minded peace loving citizens will be at these protests just bigots

is that the best you can do? Hurl insults! Oh yes that’s all those on the left can do when they are losing an argument!

You have no argument to put across because your points have so many flaws in them it’s unreal

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 16:19

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 16:10

I’m not upset because I know it’s a load of bollocks, in fact this over use of the racist card is quite frankly, laughable. I always have a bet with myself to see who will throw the word around first. 😂

What I cannot get past is people who are upset about a protest because someone was beheaded then feel the need to hurl the word “racist” around with no evidence that anyone is racist!

Nobody was beheaded. The victim is still alive.

MightyDandelionEsq · Yesterday 16:19

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 16:12

No but some of the people who are at the forefront of the agitation in the UK HAVE very openly supported white men who committed rapes and murders. Eg...

Tommy Robinson- openly and very publicly backed Connor McGregor; happy to stand with Putin despite the very well documented sexual crimes committed by his army in Ukraine; reacted to the rape of a Sikh women by saying it was wrong because "we don't have a problem with Sikhs"; friends with a man who set up a chat bot that makes sexually explicit images of real women and children on request.

Nigel Farage - also very chummy with Connor McGregor; mentioned numerous times in the Epstein files, has multiple friends/connections in common with Epstein, very open admiration of trump another adjudicated rapist with several allegations of CSA against him; openly supported Andrew Tate a man with multiple active sexual assault cases against him

Connor McGregor himself - a violent rapist

Elon Musk - spent 100s of millions of dollars getting a man elected to President whom Musk himself claimed was a paedophile; described McGregor as Ireland's last hope; tried to get onto Epstein's island but failed; created a tool on his "free speech" social media site that lets you undress children to their underwear and then post the pictures with a click of a button, settled at least one sexual harassment case out of court.

1/4 of the recent rioters - had DV, assault and other criminal convictions

None of those men care about sexual violence. If you want to listen to them then more fool you. Women on here that support men that support. If people really cared about violence against men (the victim of the stabbing was a man) they wouldn't be trying to invite more violence in which more men would be hurt. Including white men.

It’s very tiresome when other women think women only reach a certain conclusion if a man has told them to.

As you state in your post, we have enough issues with western men that we really ought to put the brakes on importing more male violence.

chaos76 · Yesterday 16:19

38thparallel · Yesterday 16:16

chaos76 · Today 15:45
there is no evidence the attack was racist

Oh well that’s okay then…..so long as it wasn’t racist, that’s the main thing.

i never said the attack was OK ! I was just opposing to using a violent crime as an excuse to bring Belfast to its knees tonight at the behest of racist groups

ATrollHunter · Yesterday 16:20

Ginnyweasleyswand · Yesterday 14:30

The problem with the BBC is that they've been calling violent male murderers and rapists 'she/her' for years. And similar falsehoods.

So trust in their 'accurate reporting' is more than a little lacking now.

Community notes on X are a wonderful thing.

Edited

Evidence?

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · Yesterday 16:20

I've just listened to the news- it's the first item.

I assume that anyone who is "desperately worried" will be very happy now to know that the perpetrator has been arrested and justice will now take its course.

I don't see what else there is to say about it.

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 16:21

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 16:19

Nobody was beheaded. The victim is still alive.

Oh yes my bad! It was an attempted beheading, which if people hadn’t intervened would have been a beheading. Is that better? Or does it make it ok and not much of a big deal that he wasn’t actually beheaded??

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · Yesterday 16:21

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 16:12

No but some of the people who are at the forefront of the agitation in the UK HAVE very openly supported white men who committed rapes and murders. Eg...

Tommy Robinson- openly and very publicly backed Connor McGregor; happy to stand with Putin despite the very well documented sexual crimes committed by his army in Ukraine; reacted to the rape of a Sikh women by saying it was wrong because "we don't have a problem with Sikhs"; friends with a man who set up a chat bot that makes sexually explicit images of real women and children on request.

Nigel Farage - also very chummy with Connor McGregor; mentioned numerous times in the Epstein files, has multiple friends/connections in common with Epstein, very open admiration of trump another adjudicated rapist with several allegations of CSA against him; openly supported Andrew Tate a man with multiple active sexual assault cases against him

Connor McGregor himself - a violent rapist

Elon Musk - spent 100s of millions of dollars getting a man elected to President whom Musk himself claimed was a paedophile; described McGregor as Ireland's last hope; tried to get onto Epstein's island but failed; created a tool on his "free speech" social media site that lets you undress children to their underwear and then post the pictures with a click of a button, settled at least one sexual harassment case out of court.

1/4 of the recent rioters - had DV, assault and other criminal convictions

None of those men care about sexual violence. If you want to listen to them then more fool you. Women on here that support men that support. If people really cared about violence against men (the victim of the stabbing was a man) they wouldn't be trying to invite more violence in which more men would be hurt. Including white men.

So by this logic, by supporting illegal immigration I can assume that you support every rape and murder an illegal immigrant commits?

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 16:21

Well, it seems to me we have a rump of posters whose battle cry is “Elon Musk!” (er, why? I’m no fan but he wasn’t the attempted beheader), “Racist!” (just because it’s always racist to object to violence/crime by foreign nationals) and even “Why care about this victim?” or “It was just a stabbing.”

chaos76 · Yesterday 16:22

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 16:18

is that the best you can do? Hurl insults! Oh yes that’s all those on the left can do when they are losing an argument!

You have no argument to put across because your points have so many flaws in them it’s unreal

I am not hurling insults I am stating facts from my observations of living in Belfast all my life and what the dogs on the street could tell you about what is really happening here tonight this place is small and we all know what’s going on

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LoremIpsumCici · Yesterday 16:23

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 16:19

Nobody was beheaded. The victim is still alive.

Oh, so one of 50,000 knife attacks per year and we are meant to be super duper concerned about this one attack?

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