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EasternStandard · 09/06/2026 12:10

Dandelionsalad · 09/06/2026 12:08

At Downing Street with the press camped outside after a public outcry and after meeting the leader of the opposition.

Political posturing. It’s not working for Starmer anyway, apart from a few left on here he’ll be ousted soon.

GoldThumb · 09/06/2026 12:11

Yes, let’s all be kind and sing ‘don’t look back in anger’ instead 🙄

Yet again, more scorn for people who are angry about crimes, than the perpetrators of crimes.

So predictable

MelanzaneParmigiana · 09/06/2026 12:11

innalittlepickle · 09/06/2026 12:08

And used them yes. Despicable.

Summoned them to Downing St for the photo op rather than discreetly visiting THEM.
Blatant opportunist.

OP posts:
Dandelionsalad · 09/06/2026 12:11

Happyjoe · 09/06/2026 12:04

And you didn't even have enough respect to find out his name.

Because phone autocorrects are far more important than a young man being murdered….

Persephonia1966 · 09/06/2026 12:12

innalittlepickle · 09/06/2026 12:10

OMG please get a grip. I was using the article to remind people what happened, it's the first one that came up on a search. Not to critique the BBC.

No, you said in your post that it wasn't being reported (I wasn't sure at first if you meant the crime or the mothers words) but, as you say, you linked to an article in the BBC to remind people what the thing that wasn't being reported was. But the fact that the story was there on the BBC to link to undermines the point that it wasn't talked about by the mainstream media.

Dollymylove · 09/06/2026 12:12

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · 09/06/2026 11:33

I think it would be sensible for Starmer to wait for the full facts of the case, rather than making some rash, unworkable promise just to appease the hard-of-thinking.

Oh aye, another Welsh choir boy?

innalittlepickle · 09/06/2026 12:13

Persephonia1966 · 09/06/2026 12:12

No, you said in your post that it wasn't being reported (I wasn't sure at first if you meant the crime or the mothers words) but, as you say, you linked to an article in the BBC to remind people what the thing that wasn't being reported was. But the fact that the story was there on the BBC to link to undermines the point that it wasn't talked about by the mainstream media.

I despair. You're literally tying yourself in knots for no reason. Makes sense I guess.

LizzieSiddal · 09/06/2026 12:14

Dandelionsalad · 09/06/2026 12:08

At Downing Street with the press camped outside after a public outcry and after meeting the leader of the opposition.

The meeting with the PM was already arranged before they met Kemi. Also the family would have been asked if they wished to leave via the front door or one of the many other exits of No 10.

IndigoBrave · 09/06/2026 12:14

Savvysix1984 · 09/06/2026 11:47

There have been lots of protest/ vigils, walks to stormont and VAWG is now always on the local news, and rightly so.

I can be confident the people at tonight’s protests (must likely riots) have never taken part in anything related to the woman killed by local men

Persephonia1966 · 09/06/2026 12:15

MelanzaneParmigiana · 09/06/2026 12:11

Summoned them to Downing St for the photo op rather than discreetly visiting THEM.
Blatant opportunist.

You can't have it both ways.

Taking the knee was a token gesture of solidarity it didn't do anything in itself.

You can't be angry that Starmer didn't show the same respect to Novak by not making a public gesture of sympathy/solidarity AND be angry with him for making a public gesture of sympathy/solidarity to Novak.

Imaginary86 · 09/06/2026 12:15

Waitingfordoggo · 09/06/2026 08:58

Could you maybe say what happened then because the news report describes it as a stabbing and I’m certainly not going to be seeking out a video as I don’t want to watch a video of a violent event.

A Somalian man attempted to behead a man on the streets of Belfast

Persephonia1966 · 09/06/2026 12:15

innalittlepickle · 09/06/2026 12:13

I despair. You're literally tying yourself in knots for no reason. Makes sense I guess.

So we agree that crimes are being reported in the mainstream media and not covered up?

EasternStandard · 09/06/2026 12:16

LizzieSiddal · 09/06/2026 12:14

The meeting with the PM was already arranged before they met Kemi. Also the family would have been asked if they wished to leave via the front door or one of the many other exits of No 10.

What changes are happening, if still too recent what has Starmer done other than empty words and photo ops after Rhiannon Whyte’s death?

He didn’t meet her mother nor listen. But still any changes?

Owlbookend · 09/06/2026 12:16

Ginnyweasleyswand · 09/06/2026 11:33

What like the young rapists who went to trial, whose victims did the right thing the way you say you want, went through the secondary trauma of a court case, and where those rapists, though found guilty were let off by a judge because they're young and shouldn't have their lives destroyed whilst their victims lives are in fact destroyed?

The only way those girls will get justice is via publicity. If they'd had no publicity I doubt a review would have happened. Ditto grooming gangs

Democracy and the rule of law are definitely under threat, but it's not from normal people who are rightly outraged at the way the system is failing and the way criminals' 'human rights' seem to be more important than people who don't break the law.

And if people don't trust 'due process' any more and aren't that convinced it's the right thing to not speak about all the many miscarriages of justice and prioritising of violent criminals' human rights over those of their victims who can blame them really?

The murderer of Rhiannon Whyte delayed his trial by claiming to be a minor. Clearly briefed on what would work. It's a farce.

Many people have objected to the lack of severity of the rape sentences to which refer.
Sentences are public knowledge and are reported in the media. People can attend court and cases are reported in the media. This information is not surpressed.
Campaigning to change specific sentences that are too lenient and to change sentencing guidelines is an appropriate action when people object.

These issues do not relate to requests not to circulate video of violent crimes when it may have a negative impact on an investigation or trial.

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 12:17

innalittlepickle · 09/06/2026 12:08

And used them yes. Despicable.

And followed their wishes I think you meant.

innalittlepickle · 09/06/2026 12:17

Persephonia1966 · 09/06/2026 12:15

So we agree that crimes are being reported in the mainstream media and not covered up?

Edited

What planet are you on. Stop telling me what we might agree on or not.

innalittlepickle · 09/06/2026 12:17

MsJinks · 09/06/2026 12:17

And followed their wishes I think you meant.

No no. I meant he used them.

LBFseBrom · 09/06/2026 12:18

Imaginary86 · 09/06/2026 12:15

A Somalian man attempted to behead a man on the streets of Belfast

We know that, it is all over the news.

I got the impression the op wanted more graphics.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/06/2026 12:19

innalittlepickle · 09/06/2026 12:03

Where is their gesture to support Nowak?

The same place as the gestures to support Katie Fox, Mark Teeton, Alfie Lewis, Harvey Willgoose, Amie Gray and too many more, perhaps?

Imaginary86 · 09/06/2026 12:20

LBFseBrom · 09/06/2026 12:18

We know that, it is all over the news.

I got the impression the op wanted more graphics.

I was replying to poster who asked exactly what happened? Attempted to behead someone is more than a stabbing

Cailleach1 · 09/06/2026 12:20

BelleEpoque27 · 09/06/2026 09:06

Unfortunately stabbings are not that uncommon. Thank goodness very few people have guns in this country.

If there's something more to it then tell us - no-one uses Twitter since Musk took it over to spread propaganda.

Now that is simply untrue, isn’t it? I look at twitter using nitter. If nobody was using twitter, I wouldn’t be able to see anything. I don’t think I’m the only one, either.

FlyingWithBingoWings · 09/06/2026 12:21

Yet more cultural and vibrant enriching of society.

It was a lot more than a stabbing-the victim's head was nearly sliced off and would have been if it hadn't been for the Irish who intervened.

Owlbookend · 09/06/2026 12:22

RingoJuice · 09/06/2026 11:41

Preventing other victims is more important than some strange procedural issue. Yeah of course the video prejudices the jury, they can fucking see the shithead miscreant do it!

People should see it so they know what is happening when borders are not enforced, people are allowed to stay because they can’t get fucking chicken nuggets in their home country or they are from a place that properly deals with rapists (eg kills them)

We prevent other victims by prosecuting and imprisoning offenders. The 'strange procedural system' you refer to is the justice system. Suspects stand trial, evidence is presented and if they are found guilty they are punished.
A prosecution and imprisoning the offender will protect future victims. Viewing a video will not lead them to be protected. I want everything to be done to support the investigation and prosecution.

Happyjoe · 09/06/2026 12:22

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Lol, are you really doing this?

This kid went to British schools, he would've had a British education, British peers. His parents are Christian, been a long time since Christians have recommended killing others so your point irrelevant. Their son never witnessed anything in Africa growing up because he was raised in the UK and believe it or not, it's not in his DNA. His parents had got him help in his earlier years for mental health issues but didn't report him when they witnessed the violence getting worse because they didn't want him to be in care, as well as sounding like they were scared of him. Other issues are also at play. It's much more complicated than him having parents from overseas.

I was born overseas to British parents, lived in 3 Middle Eastern countries, and another European one before coming to Britain (or home as it was for the rest of the British born family). I went to local schools, played with local kids at school and in my neighbourhood and knew their parents. They cannot but be part of growing up and influence. The parents are not the only source of information a child grows up with abroad, I know.

AlternateLook · 09/06/2026 12:24

Imaginary86 · 09/06/2026 12:15

A Somalian man attempted to behead a man on the streets of Belfast

Although, it won't be long until the 'mental health' card's played.

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