Belgast last night - horrific attack - why is this not being reported on BBC/Sky etc?

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Absolutely shocking details of the injuries inflicted - the BBC minimise it.
https://x.com/paultreyvaud/status/2064244770742956256?s=46

Well we need to sort out the system then, because climate change and increasing instability are going to create many more asylum seekers. An international approach is needed in my view. Campaign for that.

Yes, because not a word was said when white racists horrifically stabbed Stephen Lawrence to death, eh..?

What has this got to do with the asylum system?

It was reported less. If you think that worse - much, much worse - than this didn't go on 40 years ago, it's because it wasn't reported. Unfortunately I had first hand experience of seeing this 'worse'.

Imagine being so dumb you don't understand why it might take reputable media organisation a bit longer to check a story and report it in a factual and truthful way than it takes davy23543 to upload a video on to twitter with no verification.

Many people I think do not realise a lot of the brown people they see are British. They cannot be deported anywhere.
The boats do need sorting out. They need to find a solution so they do not land or claim they have landed in the UK.
The pretend shops selling drugs need closing. All of them.

if that video wasn't out it would just be seen as a stabbing rather than beheading
Sorry - are you arguing that the court, with medical evidence of the victim’s injuries, wouldn’t be able to know how vicious the attack was unless people circulated the video on social media? Really?

I think we’ve had enough of “it’s just a mentally-unwell individual” narrative. This is a crime particular to a certain demographic. I’m sorry, but we have to say No to asylum from Somalia. This country is over-represented in violent crime and failure to find employment. See also the situation in the US: rampant fraud and sending of government benefits to corrupt and terror-related organisations.

@EasternStandard It has a great deal to do with the far-right agenda that the UK is being flooded with asylum seekers.

Those figures don't take into account illegal immigrants, admittedly. Not sure what those are.

Southport it's because he was under 18. That is NOT me saying he isn't responsible, but the UK police have rules on not revealing the identity of under 18 year olds. Look through any news report and you will see the over 18s on trial are named but the younger ones are referred to by age and sex only. It was very unusual for them to release his identity but they had to because of false rumours.

Recently there was a case of a suspected rape in a churchyard and there was immediate outrage that the police hadn't released the ethnicities/names of the suspects. So people rioted. In that case it turned out (very fortunately) that the lady had not been raped at all. But even when rapes do occur, women don't always know the identity of their attackers don't always see who attacked them in order to give a description. Especially when they have a head injury/are unconscious. That there was no awareness of this fact at all, just an instant demand for all the details shows that the shit stirrers weren't really concerned with the well being of the victim.

We live in a 24 hour media world now. It wasn't that long ago you had to wait at least a day for the paper to see a story, or at least a few hours till the regular news. It's great that information is much quicker but most news sources will still report the main details as breaking news and only a little later give details on the suspect etc. that's normal and nothing to do with them being forced to do it by the details being shared online first. I would rather the BBC waited an hour to fact check everything before reporting details actually. Waiting an hour longer to find out if the attacker was black won't hurt you.

I think the current violence is of a completely 'new' character and prevalence.

I do not recall football, poll tax or miner rioters getting people on the floor and trying to methodically saw their head off with a knife without so much as a flinch.

Perhaps our recollections vary.

You never heard of the Krays then. Or similar….

@Ginmonkeyagainwhy the personal insults? Does it make you feel good to put people down?

It’s more likely not someone on a work visa, your figures are for legal migration.

A pp mentioned checks for asylum process, there are not checks.

Incidentally-Starmer and the local MP and the Stormont Justice Minister have all made statements on this incident that is apparently not being reported. Farage has made a political point out of it.

As I said, it is a brief factual report, if you want drama go to the Mail. Personally I find it appalling and I have no desire to wallow in all the details.

Not for years, no.

Stephen's own parents had to lead a prosecution in the end.
The police did nothing.

Has Starmer said what he’ll change to make people safer or was it just some empty word like ‘sickening’.

Yeah.. Gang rapes at footy matches, not so much

If America MAGA can persuade via influence the UK to vote Reform in, America would largely manage the UK.

I understand media and political influence. But it is a bit of a leap to say that if Reform are voted in, Musk et al will largely manage the UK.
Yes, if Reform get in there will be honours and contracts handed out as rewards, I can see that, but isn't that the case with all political parties now?
Perhaps privatisation of the NHS is the big one - I can see how that would be a strategic goal of American business.

Besides which, if there is widespread civil unrest, no-one will be managing the UK. Once the genie of mob violence on the streets is released, it is not an easy thing to get it back in the bottle.

I'm sure he was 'appalled'.

People "have a right to be angry" they don't have the right to centre their needs/feelings at the expense of justice, the victims or the victims families.

Their need to be safe? Their concern for their families? The suggestion that only those close to a victim get to comment on violence in their communities is just another attempt to shut down and cover up. ‘Justice’ has never been limited to only the immediate victim and their family.

As PP stated upthread, we have enough murderous individuals of our own. We don't want the rest of the world's detritus as well

There were horrific murders back then. But they weren't shared online. It wasn't normal to regularly see videos of people being murdered, filmed by bystanders. Instead you read it in the paper or heard it reported by a news reader.
It is good, as a previous poster said, that we have videos now as it does make public authorities more accountable (I agree there). But it doesn't follow that following normal procedures not to jeopardize a trial is automatically a cover up.

If you do follow the logic that if it weren't for Elon Musk sharing the video on twitter the media would have covered it up (as other posters have argued) then logically also maybe there were loads of horrific public murders being done in the 70s and 80s that we don't know about because Twitter and Elon Musk didn't exist to expose them.

Oh yes. That’s useful then.