Henry Nowak

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Heard of him? Probably not, because there seems to be an almost complete news blackout about him. Basically the police handcuffed him and let him bleed out because they thought he may have said something racist - he didn't, it was a lie told by his murderer. Henry was 18.

Ok

Would you still defend the legal carrying of weapons by the sikh community if, God forbid, the victim of digwa was your brother or son?

Noone should be allowed to carry a knife for no good reason. And I don't think having a cultural tradition of carrying knives counts as a good reason.

Yes. Because he used an unauthorised weapon not required by his religion.
You will note that the Nowak family has specifically said this is not a Sikh crime.

Funnily enough I was ghosted after 2 interviews at a company - I assume because I told them I was pregnant. They had a lot of info on the job ad about wanting to hire BAME employees and being an inclusive employer.

There were very few details to report because there were no witnesses other than the deceased victim and the family who were arrested. Few details were made public because that would have prejudiced the trial.

I posted a BBC article from December up thread, and it was in the Southampton local press too.

👏🏻👏🏻 exactly it's gone full circle and some. How is it NOT racist to actively seek BAME employees but it would be deemed highly racist to only seek white employees? Two wrongs don't make a right. And thighs certainly aren't right at the moment.

Progress stalled and hit reverse.

He was wearing a white shirt. All they had to do was unzip his jacket.

Oh and spot the blood all over the floor maybe.

And just pay attention to his demeanour. Basic first aid training tells you the person who is quiet is the one likely to be most seriously injured.

Trying to explain the police's utter incompetence and prejudice with "but dark t shirt" is abhorrent and you should be ashamed of yourself.

So it's perfectly OK then to carry a weapon that IS authorised by your religion.

Alternatively how about treating all citizens equally regardless of their religion, so that carrying a knife is a crime for everyone without any exemptions based on religion?

But that may hurt their feelings and we don’t want that do we….

You are fixated on the Sikhs when the real problem is that the police are choosing to believe a man of colour over a white man because of orders from above

When it was noted his pupils weren’t reacting.

I think I have explained myself enough.

Would be great if some Sikh people came on. I do know one regular MNer is Sikh.

It's not a good thing (a Reform government would be disasterous), but Vikram Digwa and his family might just be the biggest gift Reform has ever had. And that's saying something when Starmer and Labour are feathering Reform's nest as the days go by.

This

It's not relevant that his injuries were not survivable.

They did not know that on arrival at the scene.

If he had died from non survivable injuries but had had care, compassion and been believed that would have been a whole different situation. He would still have died but dieing being arrested, being branded a racist and with no medical care, no compassion and while handcuffed and being dragged across the pavement is absolutely awful.

If he had died from survivable injuries this would also be absolutely awful

The only situation that should have occured was proper medical attention at the time

Their directives have turned into an almighty own goal

@Scamworriedexactly. Imagine living knowing these were the last moments of your little boys life.

Replying to the person who said it wasn't dark, and that I should watch the video ...

I have watched the video. It's a night-view camera.

I also read the judge's summary. It was late at night in December, and dark.

@rolloverbeethoven I need to work but I have a feeling this thread will fill up quickly. Please do a Henry Novak thread Part 2, when it does. We need to keep daylight on this.

This case shows how far we have fallen as a country.

To be blunt, I don't even know if I believe the police pathologist on that, given the situation. The only way we'd know for sure is if they tried by calling an ambulance immediately and applying pressure to the chest injury rather than opening it further by handcuffing his arms behind his back.

Assuming it is true though, they let an 18 year old, fatally injured boy, die alone and uncomforted, in handcuffs, when they were right there, and that alone is unforgivable.