Henry Nowak

[rolloverbeethoven]

Heard of him? Probably not, because there seems to be an almost complete news blackout about him. Basically the police handcuffed him and let him bleed out because they thought he may have said something racist - he didn't, it was a lie told by his murderer. Henry was 18.

Point proven…. The OP was correct and actually OP thank you for starting this. Creating awareness of what is happening in the UK seems more important than ever.

I can’t sleep after seeing that footage. It’s so upsetting to think his last moments were being handcuffed while bleeding to death. The police may not have been able to save him but they handcuffed him in his last seconds of life and didn’t even check after he said he couldn’t breathe and he’d been stabbed. It’s unbelievable.

It happened in December yet we are only hearing about it now. After watching the body cam footage no one can dispute that two tier policing is a real thing and an 18 year old lost his life because of it.

Well, obviously certain details only came out as the case was being tried

I think I posted on this thread saying that I wondered if there was a media blackout because I was only seeing information on X. That was about two weeks ago when the trial started. I'm hearing that only GB News televised the statement made by his father at the court today. I don't know if that's true.

That is why it has been headline news for the past week. All of the national news corporations covered it because it is such an unusual case.

@rolloverbeethoven began this thread claiming there seems to be an almost complete news blackout. That was last Friday, by which point Henry Nowak's murder had already made the front pages.

Even today, as most news channels were feeding live from the courtroom, people have come to this thread making similar claims.

The notion of the media actively avoided reporting on this case, is conspiracy theory nonsense.

She's already been found guilty. She'll be sentenced in July.

That's really interesting but it isnt true @EmeraldRoulette, it was broadcast on the BBC News, Newsnight and ITN. I dont know about Sky.

Where did you hear that only GB News televised it?

@TooBigForMyBoots oh dear

I found it totally believable, I heard it from my neighbour

Is it possible she meant live broadcast from the court? I don't know what time it happened, but I was walking back in from work and she told me.

i'll report my post to MN and they should take it down in the morning - apologies.

The confidence from the murderer and his family ok calling the police with a fabricated story of racism is interesting and the polices attentiveness to attend on that basis.

Getting Police out to any incident isn't easy but it certainly looks like a shout of racism will do it. There wasn't even an ambulance called until the last minute so it wasn't that propelling them to attend.

It used to be known that calling rape would get help. I'll be calling racism if I need anything in the future as clearly that works to bring the police out to help.

You are putting all the blame and the onus to avoid being murdered on the victim. We need people to stop carrying knives and be willing to use them, we need people to stop claiming racism to excuse murder, we need those in authority to admit that there is two tier policing going on, we need to tell apologists to shut up about racism.

Everybody in this country needs to feel safe, the pendulum has now swung so far that white people now have no faith in the establishment to protect them. The words and rights of BAME have taken over. We see the grooming gangs who were allowed to continue because people were frightened of being labelled racist, the men coming here illegally who think it is ok to sexually assault children, the machete wielding youth from the Afro Caribbean community running amok, the rise in crime from foreign nationals.

Our country is being destroyed by this, aided and abetted by the white virtue signallers who are either deluded or who have self masochistic tendencies or who are plain dumb. I actually feel like it is too late. There is no turning back. The woke rot is too bedded in. All this anger we are feeling now, it is going to peter out, nobody has any solutions.

It’s only just become a big news story. It happened in DECEMBER!!!!! It’s not difficult to say, you know that was wrong. Maybe there is a more complicated story and my belief about the system being inherently racist is wrong. The poor kid. I feel sick, and couldn’t watch it all.

It happened in December.

It hasn't been covered up. It was reported in the press when it happened back in December, e.g. see here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0kgnjjrz4o However, in this country (unlike in America) full details aren't reported until during/after the trial. This is what enables people to have a fair(er) trial.

The officers describe attending a ‘chaotic’ scene - a bunch of people standing around and a lad dying on the floor is not chaotic and does not warrant handcuffing him as he groans out he can’t breathe and he (clearly) cannot stand. The officers and all the people there are partly to blame.

Getting this Labour government out might be a start. The most tolerant, welcoming country on earth is rotten to the core with woke ideology.

wtf?? There was no evidence of racism, they went through his phone and his father’s phone, the whole incident was filmed on snap chat, there were witnesses…. There continues to be no evidence but you seem determined that ‘we’ll never know the truth’ so in your mind you’re just going to assume that he’s racist. You are the problem.

from what the evidence shows - he was on snap chat and he could see that he had a large knife on display and commented on it. That’s not racism

the brother of the murderer was also covertly filmed telling his brother to say it was racism

@AndyBurnhamForPMthats a really strange way to look at it. You cannot physically attack someone for saying something.

@AndyBurnhamForPMyour ‘we will never know the truth’ doesn’t tally with footage being released. Hopefully you’ve changed your thinking now it has.

No they didn't ignore the knife. The murderer's mother had removed the knife from the scene, and they didn't see the stab wound at first.

The whole scene was turned on its head because it was the murderer's brother who called police saying his brother had been attacked. There is no suggestion that the brother was lying - he'd arrived on the scene late so didn't see how it started. There was no reason for the police not to believe him. The full truth of what happened was only revealed when they found Henry's phone footage (Digwa had taken the phone from him). If it wasn't for that we might never have known what happened.

Imagine if someone said… the police in the George Floyd case acted terribly BUT (have to use a capital but, just like you…) he was high on fentanyl and was in the process of committing a crime. I bet you would not agree and would be taking the knee.

you have effectively said the same thing above in reverse. You have basically said it’s ok to kill someone if you think they are racist becuase that would be self defence.

Agree. The OP is not well written, which is a huge shame. There is no media blackout but what the police and that sly coward of a murderer did to this poor young many is despicable.

It's complete injustice. Imagine someone murders you and instead of compassion and help you get handcuffed and accused of something you never even did - literally in your final moments. His family will have to live with that brutal experience of injustice.

What ethnicities were the attending officers? White British, or BAME (if that is still the correct term).

There has always been an issue with sexism and racism in the police. With all the EDI training some will now go too far the other way being led by ideology rather than facts. It's reverse bias.

The George Floyd case was filmed by bystanders. The police caused his death.

The police did not cause Henry Novak's death. The pathologist said he was mortally wounded before they arrived. The events that led to his death were only revealed later, from phone footage. With hindsight, it's terrible that he died in police custody, but comparisons with the George Floyd case are not in any way helpful.

Dystopian

AndyBurnhamForPM isn't doing the real Andy Burnham many favours here. I detest it when smart arses have no compassion and witter away to prove an idiotic fixation point.

I cannot believe some of the comments. Watch the body cam footage. Watch Mark Nowak's speech. Then ask yourself why on earth it is this not on every front page and top of every news programme. It is so much worse than George Floyd. RiP dear Henry.