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Labour isn't Working - Thread 33

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Nuthatch26 · 18/05/2026 10:16

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/05/2026 09:21

They don’t understand that once you slay the goose there won’t be any eggs.

Upstartled · 21/05/2026 09:29

Babylon5 · 21/05/2026 09:17

And so it begins.

Wes Streeting has pledged to introduce a wealth tax if he is elected Labour leader in a fresh challenge to Sir Keir Starmer.
The former health secretary has pledged to reform capital gains tax by bringing it in line with income tax, in a move he says could raise £12bn a year.
Higher or additional rate taxpayers pay 24 per cent on gains they make in the current financial year. Under Mr Streeting’s proposal that would be equalised with the income tax rate of 40 per cent for higher rate taxpayers and 45 per cent for additional rate taxpayers.
It is the first major policy which Mr Streeting has set out since quitting the Government last week and demanding that the Prime Minister set out a timetable for his departure.
DT

Well, that's the sound of the last tranche of private landlords shutting up shop.

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/05/2026 09:33

It’s incredibly shortsighted.

Look at California with their wealth tax proposals and the exodus of high value individuals.

Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 09:39

Looks like Wes is setting out his stall as the one who can fight the Greens, vs Burnham who thinks he can fight Reform.

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Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 09:41

38thparallel · 21/05/2026 09:22

Interesting article about Wes Streeting in the Spectator today:

https://spectator.com/article/my-encounters-with-wes-streeting/

Thanks. Very worrying to read.

Archive link to above article
http://archive.today/ve3Yb

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Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 09:57

Big reduction in immigration numbers reported today. Well done Shabana Mahmood. 👏

Shame most of the Labour party want her gone, and describe her efforts as un-British (Rayner).

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SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2026 10:05

As Shippers often says, 70% of Labour voters (and 50% of Green voters!) support Shabana's immigration reforms, but you'd be hard pressed to find 10 Labour MPs who do.

No wonder Nigel keeps teasing her about when she's going to defect.

Babylon5 · 21/05/2026 10:12

Upstartled · 21/05/2026 09:29

Well, that's the sound of the last tranche of private landlords shutting up shop.

Yes.

I also think they know exactly what they are doing - socialism, red in tooth and claw.

GiaGia16 · 21/05/2026 10:13

Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 09:57

Big reduction in immigration numbers reported today. Well done Shabana Mahmood. 👏

Shame most of the Labour party want her gone, and describe her efforts as un-British (Rayner).

Yes let’s hope the Un-British lot of Labour don’t get to her

Babylon5 · 21/05/2026 10:13

Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 09:39

Looks like Wes is setting out his stall as the one who can fight the Greens, vs Burnham who thinks he can fight Reform.

Right, and can you believe that the Greens are contemplating standing aside in Makerfield, in order to give Burnham a free hit?

Forgive lack of paras - FT

Senior Green Party figures are proposing to hold back from investing significant resources in the Makerfield by-election next month to help clear the path for Labour’s Andy Burnham. Several party members, conscious the Greens have limited support in the constituency in north-west England, are wary of being blamed for splitting the progressive vote and allowing Nigel Farage’s Reform UK to win, according to people involved in discussions. “We do not want this one to go to Reform, and to be quite frank, we do not want Labour to be able to turn around and say ‘if you vote Green, you’re actually voting Reform’ because that will be used for the next three years,” a senior party figure said. “It should be a case of standing but saying, actually, this isn’t going to be a big priority or a Green target.” Burnham’s team contacted the Greens over the weekend to gather intelligence about how the party planned to approach the forthcoming by-election, according to two people briefed on the matter. The by-election is scheduled for June 18. Labour’s Andy Burnham campaigning ahead of the Makerfield by-election in June © Ryan Jenkinson/Getty Images One of the people said there was a feeling in the party that it was a missed opportunity to seek concessions or policy commitments from Burnham’s team. “The moment has passed. His team has no need for that now and it might just make him look weak,” they said. In the 2024 general election, the Greens won 4 per cent of the vote, while Labour took 45 per cent and Reform 32 per cent in Makerfield. At local elections in Wigan, just north of Makerfield, earlier this month, the Greens came fifth, behind the Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives, while Reform took control of the council. The by-election in Makerfield, which is seen as a stepping stone for Burnham to challenge Sir Keir Starmer for the Labour leadership, is expected to be a battle between Burnham, the Greater Manchester mayor, and Farage’s populists. Rupert Lowe’s far-right Restore Britain has vowed to run a fierce campaign for the Greater Manchester seat and the Tories will also stand a candidate, meaning Reform could see its vote chipped away. Following their unprecedented by-election win in the Manchester seat of Gorton and Denton in February, some in Zack Polanski’s party are eager to take the fight to Burnham, or use the threat of whittling away votes from Labour to force concessions, such as support for proportional representation. On Wednesday evening, the Greens selected Chris Kennedy, a registered nurse and children’s safeguarding specialist who lives locally, to run in Makerfield. After Kennedy’s selection, Polanski said “we know there are many voters fed up with the status quo who will only choose between Reform and Greens”, adding “we have shown we can take votes from Reform in a way Labour just can’t”. Another party strategist said the biggest strategic priority for the Greens was to “win over more moderate voters on the soft left”. “By making a big song and dance about ‘we hate Andy Burnham’ — probably the most popular politician in the country — we will really alienate a lot of those people,” they said. Former Green leader Caroline Lucas wrote on X that she hoped her party would not properly contest the seat. “There are times when it’s more important to put country before party. This is one of them,” she said. Adrian Ramsay, another former co-leader, wrote: “Progressive parties need to recognise that the big threat to the country is a Reform-led government. And in my view avoiding that will involve some give and take from everyone. Burnham must clearly set out his position on a fair voting system.” However, the Green Party strategist dismissed calls to offer a toned-down election campaign in favour of concessions on proportional representation as “essentially student politics”. Reform UK’s candidate in Makerfield Robert Kenyon with Nigel Farage © ReformUK “That isn’t a bread-and-butter issue, nobody in the general public outside of a very niche group of graduates cares about proportional representation at all,” they said. Reform’s candidate in Makerfield Robert Kenyon, a plumber who also stood in 2024, has drawn criticism for alleged affiliation with extremists and controversial online comments. Critics have said Kenyon was friends on Facebook with ex-BNP and Britain First member Gary Raikes who now leads the New British Union, the modern successor party to Oswald Mosley’s British Union Fascists. Kenyon’s X account was suspended after reportedly making comments about Asian men walking around Birmingham “assaulting white people en masse”, and claiming that far-right rioters “don’t really exist”. Reform said it stood by Kenyon completely. IN PERSON & ONLINE CFO Summit 2026 Aligning capital, talent and technology in a disrupted global economy MONDAY 8 JUNE DUBLIN, IRELAND & ONLINE Presented by Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2026. All rights reserved. Reuse this content (opens in new window) CommentsJump to comments section

38thparallel · 21/05/2026 10:18

Re the Spectator article, if a Conservative MP had encouraged far right supporters at university we’d never hear the end of it.

Babylon5 · 21/05/2026 10:24

S&P PMI’s May print 48.5 - below 51.6 forecast and showing private sector contraction.

Buckle up, guys.

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2026 10:27

I want to say about Kenyon, if the best they can do is a Searchlight hitpiece saying that he used to be Facebook friends with some guy who used to be in the BNP, that's incredibly weak. Everyone has a bunch of random people on their Facebook, and at least one will be a complete loony.

I had never heard of this Raikes guy, and his "party" seems to have fewer than a dozen members. It would not amaze me to learn that he was doing a job for Searchlight/HNH by sending friend requests to Reform figures so they could write hitpieces.

Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 10:30

@Babylon5 I never get any work done when you're on the thread. 😂😂

ZP has already said that he wouldn't work with Starmer, but he would work with Burnham. Looking forward to it - not.
Tbf, I don't think the tories will put much effort in either, even though they are standing a candidate.

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Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 10:32

SionnachRuadh · 21/05/2026 10:27

I want to say about Kenyon, if the best they can do is a Searchlight hitpiece saying that he used to be Facebook friends with some guy who used to be in the BNP, that's incredibly weak. Everyone has a bunch of random people on their Facebook, and at least one will be a complete loony.

I had never heard of this Raikes guy, and his "party" seems to have fewer than a dozen members. It would not amaze me to learn that he was doing a job for Searchlight/HNH by sending friend requests to Reform figures so they could write hitpieces.

Ikr. Its a bit pathetic really.
The day he was announced there was a desperate clamour on bsky to find some dirt. 😂

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Babylon5 · 21/05/2026 10:34

Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 10:30

@Babylon5 I never get any work done when you're on the thread. 😂😂

ZP has already said that he wouldn't work with Starmer, but he would work with Burnham. Looking forward to it - not.
Tbf, I don't think the tories will put much effort in either, even though they are standing a candidate.

Sorry!

I get so angry reading Labour’s latest clusterfq, that I am compelled to share the love….

Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 10:34

38thparallel · 21/05/2026 10:18

Re the Spectator article, if a Conservative MP had encouraged far right supporters at university we’d never hear the end of it.

Yes, you're absolutely right. Imagine the bsky bunch if this was a Reform MP? They can't see it though, too busy polishing their halos 😇

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Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 10:36

Babylon5 · 21/05/2026 10:34

Sorry!

I get so angry reading Labour’s latest clusterfq, that I am compelled to share the love….

I love your posts, truly! But you're costing me money now. 🤣🤣 (joking)

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/05/2026 10:38

So vote Burnham get Polanski free.

Joy.

Yes, this will help in the by-election.

Hope it turns into a bye-election!

Nuthatch26 · 21/05/2026 10:40

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/05/2026 10:38

So vote Burnham get Polanski free.

Joy.

Yes, this will help in the by-election.

Hope it turns into a bye-election!

Haha, I hope so too. 😉

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CruCru · 21/05/2026 11:02

Babylon5 · 21/05/2026 09:17

And so it begins.

Wes Streeting has pledged to introduce a wealth tax if he is elected Labour leader in a fresh challenge to Sir Keir Starmer.
The former health secretary has pledged to reform capital gains tax by bringing it in line with income tax, in a move he says could raise £12bn a year.
Higher or additional rate taxpayers pay 24 per cent on gains they make in the current financial year. Under Mr Streeting’s proposal that would be equalised with the income tax rate of 40 per cent for higher rate taxpayers and 45 per cent for additional rate taxpayers.
It is the first major policy which Mr Streeting has set out since quitting the Government last week and demanding that the Prime Minister set out a timetable for his departure.
DT

Oh Jesus.

CruCru · 21/05/2026 11:07

redange · 20/05/2026 17:55

This is the answer to all our underachieving children....

This Government gets more ridiculous by the second...

Weirdly this video isn’t on the DoE’s Instagram. It looks as though they’ve made a bunch of videos with this person and have quietly shelved them because everyone thinks they are shit.

Crewkerne Gazette have made a parody but it isn’t very good. Mainly because the original was already ridiculous.

Babylon5 · 21/05/2026 11:08

CruCru · 21/05/2026 11:02

Oh Jesus.

Why on earth would anyone choose to crystallise a gain with a 45% tax liability, unless absolutely forced to?

They simply won’t.

It’s just more bullshit posturing from Streeting trying to burnish his credentials with the hard left.

CruCru · 21/05/2026 11:08

Ah, but they are on YouTube. The first video with GC walking in has had about 8,000 views and has 18 thumbs up and 18 comments (all of which say WTF). Is this what being ratioed is?

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