Labour isn't Working - Thread 33

[Nuthatch26]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Lord she'll be asking Wales next. Another complete shit show 🙈

Just listening to Political Currency’s EMQs. George Osborne talks about taking his sons Beau and Luke to the football.

He named them after the Dukes of Hazzard! Blimey!

Harriet Harman thinks people don't want a general election.

Given that Labour has consistently lied, reneged on its mandate, performed more U-turns than a gang of boy racers, crashed the UK economy and ruining countless lives in the process, I'd say people are desperate for a GE.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/26/uk-general-election-andy-burnham-replaces-keir-starmer-harriet-harman

I don’t want a GE. Unlike our Labour thread stalkers I aim for consistency. When they were all shouting about a GE when the Tories changed PMs my view was that we should wait for an election when the government chose it, or when five years was up. I still think that.

MN’s Labour contingent have very pliable and unreliable principles. I try to do better than that.

I absolutely don't want a g.e. just yet. We definitely need a few more years to get a chance of my preferred outcome.

I didn't know we were still under the microscope though. Are we to play the pantomime bad guys, forever?

Somehow a few mners have caused the downfall of Labour. Nothing to do with the actual politicians of course.

Who knew we had such powers.

On a GE I think more time could benefit Kemi so we’ll see what happens. The by-election is looming more than a GE

Who the fuck is listening to that peodophile apologist Harman she needs to shut up and fuck off no bloody shame

@EasternStandard "Somehow a few mners have caused the downfall of Labour"

please could you expand on this?

A view a few have seen on here which is nonsensical. This thread really isn’t the cause of Starmer’s or Labour’s problems.

@Nuthatch26 wowzer Nutty you and your thread has bought down the government 🤷‍♀️ Nutty for PM 🔥😁🔥

Can you imagine the other things we could achieve? I mean if that was correct, we should be saving the world 😂

I haven't seen any of this, obviously.

Totally. I can think of other things I’d aim it at!

There's no sign of the government being brought down anyway is there? Bizarre.

I did see some mad stuff on here yesterday, but nothing like that.

Starmer might go post by-election. I think there’ll send a few into a spin.

Sir Tony Blair said on Tuesday night that Sir Keir Starmer had no plan to fix Britain as he launched an unprecedented attack on the Labour leader’s record in office.

In an extensive critique of the Government, Sir Tony accused the Labour Prime Minister of retreating into a Left-wing “comfort zone” of high taxes and red tape that had crippled growth while failing to tackle the ballooning welfare bill.

The former prime minister also intervened in the Labour leadership crisis, warning it would be “dangerous” for the party to lurch to the Left.

The remarks, made in a 5,700-word essay, come during a bitter internal battle over Sir Keir’s future and who should replace him in Downing Street.

Andy Burnham, the Manchester mayor who is on the Left of the party, is widely expected to challenge for the leadership if he wins the Makerfield by-election next month. Wes Streeting, the centrist former health secretary, has said he will challenge Mr Burnham. The hard Left is also considering running a candidate.
‘We don’t have a worked-out, coherent plan’

Addressing Labour’s failure in government, Sir Tony wrote: “The Government’s principal problem isn’t Keir’s personality. Or a failure to communicate ‘our achievements’. Or a need to assert more strongly Labour’s ‘values’.

“It is because we don’t have a worked-out, coherent plan for the country in a fast-changing world and are in the wrong political position from which we can devise one and win a second term.

“The Government is governing from an essentially traditional Labour ‘soft Left’ position, parked firmly in the party’s comfort zone.”

The comments mark Sir Tony’s first public criticism of Sir Keir’s administration, having previously criticised individual policies rather than directly attacking the Labour leader.

The former prime minister was especially critical of Sir Keir’s handling of welfare, after Left-wing backbenchers forced No 10 to drop planned reforms to personal independence payments.

He questioned how Downing Street could “justify” putting up taxes again and again on workers and businesses to fund ever-higher handouts and warned that the welfare system now “incentivises people not to work”.
“By the end of this decade, we could be spending more on incapacity and disability benefits than on defence,” he wrote. “No serious country can do that.”

AMEN.

Meanwhile, over the border….

Nicola Sturgeon has always insisted she knew nothing of her husband’s decade-long illegally funded spending spree, even though they lived under the same roof.

But doubt has been cast on that claim after it emerged that the former first minister had been seen using, and even wearing, some of the hundreds of luxury items bought by Peter Murrell using funds embezzled from the SNP.
The gold pendant

In August 2019, Ms Sturgeon gave a TV interview wearing a 9ct gold pendant depicting the Northern Lights.

It has emerged that Murrell bought the £425 necklace from a jeweller in Shetland the previous month using stolen money.

When he made the purchase, during a visit to the islands for a by-election, Murrell reportedly told the shop owner he was “the man with the money”. Ms Sturgeon was seen wearing the necklace on several occasions that summer and in the chamber of the Scottish Parliament.

Just got sent a YouGov survey. No option for Restore, but an option for UKIP! Didn’t even realise UKIP even still existed.

@Bananarep , well this is what the core of the thread is and it seems Blair agrees with us. That’s endorsement for you.

Blair’s intervention confirms what we already see. The government has no coherent economic or political plan. High taxes, weak growth, rising welfare costs, expensive energy policy.

Labour supporters obviously don’t want a GE, they just want another reset. Hopefully one will hit. And so they watch and listen to their true leader, Sir Tony Blair with bated breath and fingers crossed.

Yep Blair agreeing with us after a couple of years, it’s been pretty obvious.

Of course Starmer’s acolytes will turn on Blair after the opposite on here about how great he was.

Agreed.

Blair, for all his foreign policy failures, is/was a pragmatist. How I yearn for grown-up politics as opposed to the ideological pygmies we have now.

Labour is the welfare party - it’s all they have left.

He’s speaking now re benefits going up and he’s right. It’s not affordable.

Rishi was on earlier too, he at least got the economics of the situation.

Ridiculous with the politicians we have rn with the lack of understanding.

Listening more it’s annoying how bad Labour is now.

@EasternStandard , they already have but not just the acolytes “while left-leaning Starmer critic Rachael Maskell dismissed the Blair intervention as coming from a man who’s looking back at the elections he won more than two decades ago. She also reckoned it’s “incredibly unhelpful” with the flurry of by-elections coming up.” - Politico London PLAYBOOK.

@Bananarep, a past article in the Spectator - “Labour is now the party of welfare not work”

Yep, this government’s primary role is to serve the interests of its clients i.e. welfare claimants via their backbench enablers.

He just spoke sense, he had faults of course, but he’s right on just stop getting hung up on politics and look at what needs to fix the problems.

Benefits / AI etc, net zero. Rishi gets the same in his interview. Labour will squabble and track left and we’ll see where they are in a couple of years.

Tony Blair saved the labour party by being sensible with the commercial sector and the working people. I'm sure it infuriated Gordon Brown that Tony didn't hand him the job sooner, but Tony knew he'd cock up a decade of success. And of course he did.