To be confused by Keir Starmers speech already .

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So he’s speaking to people like me talking about his brother and how his sister works in care and how unfairly she is treated .. Yet I’m am a carer and he has done sod all to help me apart from take more money .

And there we have it. Didn't take long, did it?

First Labour MPs are reacting and it's not good.

"That was a speech an opposition party leader should be making, not someone who's been in power for two years."

"That was dull."

Sorry

Licences for extracting north sea oil are owned by a mixture of companies such as BP and Shell etc. So any oil or gas extracted belongs to those companies. It's processed and sold on the international market. The only gain that the UK gets from extraction comes in the form of taxes on the companies and their UK employees.

He just does not get it. At all.

No Keir, we don’t want to see the changes faster - we don’t LIKE the changes!

No Keir, it’s not just that you’ve struggled to get the message out - we’ve heard the message and we hate it!

Totally agree

Another three word slogan. Unfortunately I've forgotten what it is already.

The one last September? I doubt the 26 police officers who were injured, 4 seriously, would agree with you.

Don't be sorry, be better.

He literally listed what he’d do for youth unemployment and skills

I’m not a supporter but your take is inaccurate

They literally are lowering immigration. It's just not being fairly reported.

So children should live in poverty? Be removed?

Starmer cannot make fundamental changes/reforms because his back benchers will not allow it.

Simples.

You can't just "rejoin" EU though.
Agree on water!

I said in 2024 the best thing would be a tory/reform coalition.
Then pretty quickly the country would have been in such dire straights that a true socialist Labour government could have taken the reins
But I'm afraid that would require national trauma and suffering- like after WW2.
A Labour govt was elected by a landslide and implemented huge social housing programmes and the welfare state and NHS.
I thought KS a fool to take on the job after 14 years of tory austerity and brexit.
The idiots who voted for it need to suffer the consequences and maybe then they will be quiet...
£20k for a hip operation? Nice loan to pay for it...options available!
No more holiday or sick pay or maternity pay?
Leaving the ECHR and removing the Equality Act?
Removing renters rights?
I'm sure it'll be FINE...

I would like the 2 child cap to be reintroduced.. We limited the amount of children we had because we could not afford a 3rd .. I would also stop the DWP paying extra benefits for families with multiple wives .

Again, it's pretty disingenuous to start a thread supposedly about a Starmer speech, when actually, it's a blatant Right wing/Tommy Robinson/bigoted pitch. We see it OP.

That was about as bad a speech as you could possibly imagine. Labour will destroy the country if they stay in government for any sustained period of time. Truly awful stuff.

It lasted a lot longer than five minutes. They've delivered a reduction in immigration, increased the minimum wage, introduced the renter's and worker's rights bills, multiple interest rate reductions, and reduced NHS waiting list times amongst many other things. Their comms aren't good, but they've achieved a lot.

This country is in a mess and it's going to take a long time to turn it around. Those who shout the loudest about the mess we're in and despise Labour, are often the architects of this mess. I'm looking at Reform and the Tories. If you voted for Brexit and the Tories you're massively responsible for the mess we're currently in.

Lemon … I think you think I’m trying to pretend to not be right wing .. I’m fully right wing I have no shame in saying that so I’m not really sure what you are trying to achieve.

Looking at the responses from commentators across the spectrum on X, I'd say this speech has gone down VERY badly.

It's now a case of does West get the 81 MPs to support her so Streeting can become PM in the next few days, or does the party wait a few months in an attempt to get Burnham in?

Can the country afford this chaos to last a few months?

The mess is the open borders, the massive tax hikes and the huge spending on the lazy to not work. And that was started by the Tories and ramped up by ...

The Labour Party.

Also trying to rally your troops .. Has Thursday taught you nothing ???? We are becoming the majority. We are not hiding away . Deal with it .

How do you explain the number of voters who voted Reform in the locals last week.

And how do you explain Labour losing Scotland and Wales?

Thanks

"Make Britain...erm..."

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