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If you voted Reform, I would love to know why?

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AplineDaisies · 09/05/2026 00:58

I am not here to judge so would just like to hear from Reform voters for their reasoning.

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MushMonster · 11/05/2026 16:56

38thparallel · 11/05/2026 13:10

Crime is at it lowest level for but fear of crime is at its highest
@CovenOfCheeses

I keep reading about how crime is dropping but I’m not sure. I’m on SW London Nextdoor group and every day people report that their children have been mugged, cars have been stolen or broken into, burglaries parcels stolen from doorsteps, phones snatched.
A lot of crime isn’t reported as everyone knows the police will do bugger all.
Saying crime is at its lowest level isn’t much consolation to the numerous victims of crime.

So there is a real and present danger mentioned.
Is the crime numbers really dropping or are there less of them reported?
Because it has been a thing that shop lifting and similar crimes have not even noted by police called on site. Or there has been no prosecution. And people can get tired ot that pretty quickly. Plus the amount of distrust that spreads! Nothing will feel you more at danger if the two people arrested last week breaking into X shop are out there, free roaming.
I will try to find some examples to link. I remember watching a documentary.

OneFunBrickNewt · 11/05/2026 17:25

Imdunfer · 10/05/2026 20:01

Google is wrong. There is nothing whatever that a Council can do about Royal Mail except complain to the regulator Ofcom, which anyone can do.

They have powers to close the nightclub, they do not have any power over Royal Mail.

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This is entirely correct.
An individual MP will have limited power too, although a well organised one will write a letter to the CEO and expect a reply, and chase if one isn't forthcoming. But councils- no power at all.

catspyjamas1 · 11/05/2026 20:38

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CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 21:03

BluebellShmoobell · 11/05/2026 15:58

I agree, I did read that the amount of afghans who say they were translators outnumbers the british army. I dont care if they did translate, they probably have horrible views on women, let them live in jordan or another middle eastern country. Ive really had enough of it.

You know that Afghanistan had a left wing government that had very high levels of literacy and about 80% of women went to some form of tertiary education and about 25% of urban women had masters or doctorates. Reagan encouraged the Saudis to establish madrasas (religious schools) that taught an extreme form of Islam that Reagan thought would be a counterpoint to communism. Then he armed rural teligious zealots to fight the left wing government, then when the Soviets intervened he poured money and armaments to arming the religious scollars from the madrasahs or the Mujaheddin at the time to fight the Left wing government and the Soviets.The USA then had to fight the people they used to destroy a secular country once the Soviets collapsed. Then they ran away leaving the people to the fate of the Taliban. Do you not understand history.

have you not heard of the father who carried his daughter 7 miles to get to the nearest primary school as there was not one nearby. There are plenty of stories of how men want their girls educated but the system in power created by the actions of the US and supported by the UK has failed them.

You don’t think we have some responsibility and should try and make amends rather than pass the issues we created to somewhere like Jordan? You know Jordan is a totally unrelated country.

it is like saying we created a famine in Ireland and instead of taking in the starving we need to ship them to Peru.

CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 21:09

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My point is I do find that Zia Yusuf, Suella Bravermann, etc and their ilk have to prove they are more racist than the indigenous population to feel they fit in. This may mean that they want to support a racist party. This does not mean the party is not racist and deliciously by bile and hatred of foreigners, because they say they are. Vast numbers of the NF and BNP rank amongst their members and councillors, so if they make racist comments, you need to believe them.

you do know the MAGA Cuban YouTuber who was deported right in Florida.

just because you support them does not mean they will not come for you.

CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 21:12

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I am not a Labour supporter but I cannot see what is wrong with it? Richard Tice and his girlfriend dodged taxes in the UK while using facilities and the systems in this country to protect their monies. Does this not make them parasites?

BluebellShmoobell · 11/05/2026 21:32

CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 21:03

You know that Afghanistan had a left wing government that had very high levels of literacy and about 80% of women went to some form of tertiary education and about 25% of urban women had masters or doctorates. Reagan encouraged the Saudis to establish madrasas (religious schools) that taught an extreme form of Islam that Reagan thought would be a counterpoint to communism. Then he armed rural teligious zealots to fight the left wing government, then when the Soviets intervened he poured money and armaments to arming the religious scollars from the madrasahs or the Mujaheddin at the time to fight the Left wing government and the Soviets.The USA then had to fight the people they used to destroy a secular country once the Soviets collapsed. Then they ran away leaving the people to the fate of the Taliban. Do you not understand history.

have you not heard of the father who carried his daughter 7 miles to get to the nearest primary school as there was not one nearby. There are plenty of stories of how men want their girls educated but the system in power created by the actions of the US and supported by the UK has failed them.

You don’t think we have some responsibility and should try and make amends rather than pass the issues we created to somewhere like Jordan? You know Jordan is a totally unrelated country.

it is like saying we created a famine in Ireland and instead of taking in the starving we need to ship them to Peru.

No I feel no need for working class people in pretty poor deprived areas to have to bare the brunt of most the migration either illegal or legal. Its not their fault what happened in history, this is now and why not go to jordan or the like culturally they are more aligned. Multiculturalism has failed, we tried but so many cultures rubbing up alongside each other and brits not liking it and being called racist for it is now jarring.

Like I say I dont care anymore. My town has changed due to mass immigration and not for better, its a shithole, no community, no shared language, women covering their faces its not right, its not our culture and thats it. Call me all the names but thats my opinion and how I see it.

OneDayEarly · 11/05/2026 21:44

Because they are racist

SleeplessInWherever · 11/05/2026 21:49

BluebellShmoobell · 11/05/2026 21:32

No I feel no need for working class people in pretty poor deprived areas to have to bare the brunt of most the migration either illegal or legal. Its not their fault what happened in history, this is now and why not go to jordan or the like culturally they are more aligned. Multiculturalism has failed, we tried but so many cultures rubbing up alongside each other and brits not liking it and being called racist for it is now jarring.

Like I say I dont care anymore. My town has changed due to mass immigration and not for better, its a shithole, no community, no shared language, women covering their faces its not right, its not our culture and thats it. Call me all the names but thats my opinion and how I see it.

I don’t think anyone needs to call you anything that you haven’t already made clear you are.

BluebellShmoobell · 11/05/2026 22:56

SleeplessInWherever · 11/05/2026 21:49

I don’t think anyone needs to call you anything that you haven’t already made clear you are.

Yawn

CovenOfCheeses · 12/05/2026 12:05

It is not either or. The US adventurism and destruction of the society, economic condictions and the environment is creating problems which is increasing migration from the global south. The UK has worked hand in hand and needs to deal with the situation that it has created. Rather like you letting you dog shit everywhere and asking other people to pick it up.

The lack of support for your community and societal problems are not caused by migration which has ameliorated some of the adverse impacts of Brexit, the banking crisis, wars and Covid, but by successive programmes of austerity and privatisation by both Tory and to a lesser extent Labour. You just see fit to blame the others to fit your racist narrative.

CovenOfCheeses · 12/05/2026 12:42

SleeplessInWherever · 11/05/2026 21:49

I don’t think anyone needs to call you anything that you haven’t already made clear you are.

i go back to visit my sister and her Spanish husband and see whole areas of Spain where English immigrants have taken over areas and priced out local Spanish people. They never integrate, don’t respect local culture and go into churches and religious places topless with pink burnt skin, don’t learn the language or frequent the local businesses but go to English run places with English breakfasts and John Smiths. I don’t see the Spanish complain even when they had the mass Tommy marches in Spain. They thought they were idiots. The Spanish government have invested in local infrastructure and integration by helping recent arrivals learn English. My sister is the sole English person amongst Filipinos, Afghans, North Africans and French learning Spanish. They have seen the benefits of getting people who were once working irregularly into the tax system as they are now taxed and brought into society. They bump along well with local people but it is the English in Spain who are aloof, introspective and racist and fail to integrate. They want the world to bend to them rather than accept the benefits of other countries. English is a hodgepodge of words from other cultures, algebra is from the Arabs, the idea of using algorithms to programme computers was from a Muslim scholar, several astronomical and mathematical innovations were from India, Mesopotamia, the Ottomans and others, the numeric system from India, the DNA of British people is a miasma of mixes from successive waves of immigration and travel, the national food is curry from Bangladesh, battered fish is from the Jews in the East End and popularised by the Limehouse Chinese, chips from Huguenots and Belgium and Dutch sailors, spices were popularised by the Dutch and Portuguese settlers. English culture is a mixture of different languages such as Cornish, Welsh, Gaelic, and others that have permeated this Island nation. It is part of our DNA that we assimilate and absorb things, ideas, culture and people from other countries and this is what makes us so vibrant and has created the dynamism that drives this country. As nationalism has pervaded, we have entered a period of introversion and stagnation. don’t you think this is a coincidence? We are better than this, to close our minds and our hearts to the world and become an insular and small people that blame everyone else for the lack of vision of our leaders (facilitated by a rabid racist media) who then blame their mistakes on the marginalised communities that have a negligible affect on our country. We were once great, intelligent and outward looking and we have become stupid, lazy and indolent and blame everyone else for our illness.

38thparallel · 12/05/2026 14:04

The Spanish government have invested in local infrastructure and integration by helping recent arrivals learn English.

@CovenOfCheeses Why is the Spanish government helping people who have recently arrived in Spain to learn English?

CovenOfCheeses · 12/05/2026 14:10

I really would like to know when and why we as a people became so ignorant and so lacking in empathy, understanding and so lacking in our knowledge of our culture and history.

it is not poverty, my Grandfather was dirt poor and grew up in a slum in the East End. He learnt to read and write at the people’s palace in Mile End amongst Bengali Lascars, Chinese Dockworkers, poor Jews, French Protestants, Swedish and Finnish sailors and the multitude of immigrants that thronged to the East End at the time. He may not have had money but he fought the fascist blackshirts and knew that only knowledge and education would empower them working classes. Why is there such an undercurrent of anti-intellectualism and revelling in being stupid that pervades some section of society that makes them vote against their self-interest?

MushMonster · 12/05/2026 14:25

38thparallel · 12/05/2026 14:04

The Spanish government have invested in local infrastructure and integration by helping recent arrivals learn English.

@CovenOfCheeses Why is the Spanish government helping people who have recently arrived in Spain to learn English?

She meant Spanish. It can be deduced from her SIL attending Spanish later said on the post. I think.

sofiathewurst · 12/05/2026 15:02

@CovenOfCheeses They... go into churches and religious places topless with pink burnt skin

Please tell me this is men 😂

I agree though, the terrible lack of integration of some of the British living abroad is exactly the same as that being complained about in this country.

38thparallel · 12/05/2026 15:06

I agree though, the terrible lack of integration of some of the British living abroad is exactly the same as that being complained about in this country

If it’s ’terrible’ that the British living abroad are not integrating, then presumably it’s reasonable to complain about immigrants in UK not integrating?

sofiathewurst · 12/05/2026 15:16

38thparallel · 12/05/2026 15:06

I agree though, the terrible lack of integration of some of the British living abroad is exactly the same as that being complained about in this country

If it’s ’terrible’ that the British living abroad are not integrating, then presumably it’s reasonable to complain about immigrants in UK not integrating?

Well, I don't think it's a good thing certainly. It is just pointing out that it isn't just people coming here and not learning the language, it's people leaving here and not bothering too.

CovenOfCheeses · 12/05/2026 15:23

Imdunfer · 10/05/2026 19:57

I imagine the main reason would be that they know their asylum claim would fall.

Can you show the stats and peer reviewed studies that show this ? Or is it doing your own research on the interweb?

CovenOfCheeses · 12/05/2026 15:24

38thparallel · 12/05/2026 14:04

The Spanish government have invested in local infrastructure and integration by helping recent arrivals learn English.

@CovenOfCheeses Why is the Spanish government helping people who have recently arrived in Spain to learn English?

Sorry Spanish. Writing on my phone on public transport.

38thparallel · 12/05/2026 15:26

Well, I don't think it's a good thing certainly. It is just pointing out that it isn't just people coming here and not learning the language, it's people leaving here and not bothering too.

I agree that it’s not a good thing whether arriving here or moving abroad but I don’t think there is anything that can be done. It’s human nature to join up with people from a similar culture and who speak the same language, and once there are enough people then a self-contained community will be formed.
If immigrants from a non-EU country want the right to remain, do they have to pass a language test?

SleeplessInWherever · 12/05/2026 15:30

38thparallel · 12/05/2026 15:26

Well, I don't think it's a good thing certainly. It is just pointing out that it isn't just people coming here and not learning the language, it's people leaving here and not bothering too.

I agree that it’s not a good thing whether arriving here or moving abroad but I don’t think there is anything that can be done. It’s human nature to join up with people from a similar culture and who speak the same language, and once there are enough people then a self-contained community will be formed.
If immigrants from a non-EU country want the right to remain, do they have to pass a language test?

Yes, applying for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) (settlement) in the UK generally requires passing a B1 level English language test (speaking and listening) alongside the Life in the UK test. This test must be a Secure English Language Test (SELT) taken at an approved centre, typically costing around £150–£160.

Courtesy of… Google.

CovenOfCheeses · 12/05/2026 15:32

sofiathewurst · 12/05/2026 15:02

@CovenOfCheeses They... go into churches and religious places topless with pink burnt skin

Please tell me this is men 😂

I agree though, the terrible lack of integration of some of the British living abroad is exactly the same as that being complained about in this country.

It is the men with massive beer bellies , women with mounds of flesh in tiny bikinis who throng to churches and religious festivals in Spain in inappropriate clothes who also complain about the foreigners not integrating. It is the massive hypocrisy and a real two tiered lack of logic that gets me. one rule for them and another for us.

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