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If you voted Reform, I would love to know why?

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AplineDaisies · 09/05/2026 00:58

I am not here to judge so would just like to hear from Reform voters for their reasoning.

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MushMonster · 11/05/2026 06:46

cloudtreecarpet · 11/05/2026 06:41

Can we not repeat such disgusting comments made by Reform councillors please.
It was bad enough that he said it but we don't need to repeat it.

It is beyond shocking indeed. But people need to be aware.

thedramaQueen · 11/05/2026 06:46

cloudtreecarpet · 11/05/2026 06:41

Can we not repeat such disgusting comments made by Reform councillors please.
It was bad enough that he said it but we don't need to repeat it.

Agree but did we all notice how Richard Tice failed to condemn this comment. I’m sorry but that’s unacceptable too. He came across like a smug school boy when refusing to do so.

38thparallel · 11/05/2026 06:46

Yes, if the parents themself have plenty of money to pay for the holiday. I was reading about it yesterday. They would need to die before it became classified as a gift, though. I think that's 7 years

That’s very interesting. So grandparents paying for anything for other family members could be considered tax evasion.
The research by the tax authority on individual families doing this would be quite time consuming presumably - but then that’s what the tax office is for, I suppose.
What about if the grandparents in their 70s or 80s start throwing money around on themselves, going on cruises, eating out at the most expensive restaurants and so on. Does that also count as getting rid of assets?

MushMonster · 11/05/2026 06:49

thedramaQueen · 11/05/2026 06:46

Agree but did we all notice how Richard Tice failed to condemn this comment. I’m sorry but that’s unacceptable too. He came across like a smug school boy when refusing to do so.

Yes, I read about it. Has he now condemned it? Or still a loud silence there?

Imdunfer · 11/05/2026 06:50

MushMonster · 11/05/2026 06:46

It is beyond shocking indeed. But people need to be aware.

I do agree that it's as racist a comment as can possibly be made and the level of disgust of it can't be understood without hearing it in full. I went and looked it up to see how bad it was and I can't understand why the man is still in his post. It's a thought that should never have been on his head, never mind have been posted online.

Imdunfer · 11/05/2026 06:57

38thparallel · 11/05/2026 06:46

Yes, if the parents themself have plenty of money to pay for the holiday. I was reading about it yesterday. They would need to die before it became classified as a gift, though. I think that's 7 years

That’s very interesting. So grandparents paying for anything for other family members could be considered tax evasion.
The research by the tax authority on individual families doing this would be quite time consuming presumably - but then that’s what the tax office is for, I suppose.
What about if the grandparents in their 70s or 80s start throwing money around on themselves, going on cruises, eating out at the most expensive restaurants and so on. Does that also count as getting rid of assets?

Not if they are spending money on things for themselves.

Not for taxation, anyway. The council might be interested if there were care home fees looming.

thedramaQueen · 11/05/2026 06:58

MushMonster · 11/05/2026 06:49

Yes, I read about it. Has he now condemned it? Or still a loud silence there?

I believe he has not done so yet… still staying it’s all under investigation… imagine if any of the other political figures said that they would be ripped to pieces by the press.

DrasticAction · 11/05/2026 07:06

@38thparallel .
Sorry you misunderstood me I know many weather GP who are doing such thing to avoid it

MushMonster · 11/05/2026 07:13

Imdunfer · 11/05/2026 06:50

I do agree that it's as racist a comment as can possibly be made and the level of disgust of it can't be understood without hearing it in full. I went and looked it up to see how bad it was and I can't understand why the man is still in his post. It's a thought that should never have been on his head, never mind have been posted online.

Hold on! I thought he had been suspended!!

MushMonster · 11/05/2026 07:16

Some news outlets are reporting under investigation. Other suspended.
So I suppose he is suspended while they investigate the claims that he said such a vile shite.

Sherbs12 · 11/05/2026 07:23

cloudtreecarpet · 11/05/2026 06:41

Can we not repeat such disgusting comments made by Reform councillors please.
It was bad enough that he said it but we don't need to repeat it.

As abhorrent as it is, we need to be frank and factual in acknowledging and discussing exactly who and what Reform are made up of - this isn’t a one-off on the racism and many of us having been saying on here for a long time about the BNP types/racists being very vocal for Reform at local level, but we have often been dismissed. Reform have more funding than any other party, which they spend on media and spin, which is often very different from what people see in reality in their working class communities; we know that there are heinous racists within their party, who not vetted and are given a platform. Reform have emboldened people like this to the point that they’re now in local councils.

thedramaQueen · 11/05/2026 09:11

Sherbs12 · 11/05/2026 07:23

As abhorrent as it is, we need to be frank and factual in acknowledging and discussing exactly who and what Reform are made up of - this isn’t a one-off on the racism and many of us having been saying on here for a long time about the BNP types/racists being very vocal for Reform at local level, but we have often been dismissed. Reform have more funding than any other party, which they spend on media and spin, which is often very different from what people see in reality in their working class communities; we know that there are heinous racists within their party, who not vetted and are given a platform. Reform have emboldened people like this to the point that they’re now in local councils.

Yes it’s interesting to compare this with the way the Green Party are being portrayed in the Media. While I do believe that the leader of Green Party has said some silly things they are by no way as bad as this in my opinion. Yet we are not being told by the Media that Reform has a racism problem like we are with how they report on the Greens interesting double standards in my mind.

sofiathewurst · 11/05/2026 09:29

thedramaQueen · 11/05/2026 09:11

Yes it’s interesting to compare this with the way the Green Party are being portrayed in the Media. While I do believe that the leader of Green Party has said some silly things they are by no way as bad as this in my opinion. Yet we are not being told by the Media that Reform has a racism problem like we are with how they report on the Greens interesting double standards in my mind.

They are both parties that appeal to idealists, albeit ones of two completely different flavours. Reform, however, has the advantage of being hugely wealthy and being bankrolled by even wealthier people. And as we know, wealth = power.
The media have given NF, if not actively positive coverage, certainly an amount coverage for years, that was disproportionate to his position, and gave him a platform he had not at that time earned by being an actual politician or elected into any position.

CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 10:54

Imdunfer · 11/05/2026 06:50

I do agree that it's as racist a comment as can possibly be made and the level of disgust of it can't be understood without hearing it in full. I went and looked it up to see how bad it was and I can't understand why the man is still in his post. It's a thought that should never have been on his head, never mind have been posted online.

If people tell you what they are believe them. There are lots of people talking about concentration camps for vermin and cockroaches and mass deportations of the men of ‘fighting age who are invading our shores’ where I live on the edge of London. The flags have started to appear not as something patriotic but as something sinister to frighten foreigners. My Indian neighbour who is a GP had excrement and bacon wrapped in a Greggs paper bag pushed through her letterbox. She is a Goan catholic not a Muslim. This is the country we are becoming and people are celebrating it.

CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 11:08

Net migration is at the lowest level but this has meant that there is a funding crisis in Universities as many are supported by foreign students fees as well as Ph.d funding grants that are curbed due to the lack of research students which is also driving the productivity decline and industrial decline in the UK.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/press/net-migration-falls-78-in-two-years-returning-to-pre-brexit-levels-every-major-immigration-category-except-asylum-declines/

Crime is at it lowest level for but fear of crime is at its highest. I wonder why when the press routinely print lurid stories and claim that immigrants are to blame. Crime declined during the years of high net migration but I don’t think this was highlighted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgk86rr0vxyo?app-referrer=deep-link

I suppose you do your own research on the interweb rather than relying the verified and peer reviewed studies that do not agree with your narrative.

you possibly do not remember the years of Tory money was spaffed away on friends and lives wasted by a poor response to the COVID pandemic. Or the money lost through the banking crisis because of the light touch regulation that Farridge wants to bring back. Or the excess deaths caused by austerity due to cuts to benefits and the years of productivity decline caused by a cuts to industrial investment and research. The light touch regulation that meant sewage was being pumped into rivers while money was paid in divodends and billions of litres flooded out of burst pipes and we had droughts. The housing crisis caused by landlords buying council houses and leasing them back to councils at exorbitant prices or the light touch regulation for building that caused rhe Grenfell related building safety debacle. Labour were supposed to sort this out a generation of poor leadership in a few months and you are harping on about small boats????

Net migration falls 78% in two years returning to pre-Brexit levels: every major immigration category except asylum declines - Migration Observatory

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/press/net-migration-falls-78-in-two-years-returning-to-pre-brexit-levels-every-major-immigration-category-except-asylum-declines/

caringcarer · 11/05/2026 11:19

dizzydizzydizzy · 10/05/2026 17:07

There are several factual inaccuracies or misleading statements in this.

You can’t get PIP for mild anxiety or any mild health problem.

Unversal Credit for a single person over 25 had gone from £400.14 per month to £424.90. While it is probably true to say that it is an above inflation rise, it is an increase of £24.76 per month, which probably won’t even cover the increase in cost in food, let alone electricity, transport etc.

If you claim UC and don’t look for work, they won’t pay you, unless you have a good reason (eg illness).

The disability payment that is attached to UC -
it’s called LCWRA - has been cut in half for new claimants.

please get some accurate information and have a rethink.

I know at least 3 people claiming pip for mild anxiety and no other condition. That is a fact.

Whysnothingsimple · 11/05/2026 11:25

CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 11:08

Net migration is at the lowest level but this has meant that there is a funding crisis in Universities as many are supported by foreign students fees as well as Ph.d funding grants that are curbed due to the lack of research students which is also driving the productivity decline and industrial decline in the UK.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/press/net-migration-falls-78-in-two-years-returning-to-pre-brexit-levels-every-major-immigration-category-except-asylum-declines/

Crime is at it lowest level for but fear of crime is at its highest. I wonder why when the press routinely print lurid stories and claim that immigrants are to blame. Crime declined during the years of high net migration but I don’t think this was highlighted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgk86rr0vxyo?app-referrer=deep-link

I suppose you do your own research on the interweb rather than relying the verified and peer reviewed studies that do not agree with your narrative.

you possibly do not remember the years of Tory money was spaffed away on friends and lives wasted by a poor response to the COVID pandemic. Or the money lost through the banking crisis because of the light touch regulation that Farridge wants to bring back. Or the excess deaths caused by austerity due to cuts to benefits and the years of productivity decline caused by a cuts to industrial investment and research. The light touch regulation that meant sewage was being pumped into rivers while money was paid in divodends and billions of litres flooded out of burst pipes and we had droughts. The housing crisis caused by landlords buying council houses and leasing them back to councils at exorbitant prices or the light touch regulation for building that caused rhe Grenfell related building safety debacle. Labour were supposed to sort this out a generation of poor leadership in a few months and you are harping on about small boats????

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So what do you do about the large numbers of immigrants already here, those large numbers who refuse to integrate to adopt British values, the 25 % of Muslims who think the Gaza issue is more important than the UK economy?

when you start digging down the actual immigration only a part of peoples worries it’s the integration aspect which people are concerned about.

Reform are the only partly (now with Restore) to address this in their manifesto

MushMonster · 11/05/2026 11:37

caringcarer · 11/05/2026 11:19

I know at least 3 people claiming pip for mild anxiety and no other condition. That is a fact.

Without denying that, I want to highlight the experience of my family and some other posters, that PIP is also an ordeal to get with full on diagnosed chronic illnesses that severily affect mobility.
What is quite a puzzle actualy.

MushMonster · 11/05/2026 11:56

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/11/uk-firefighters-lithium-ion-battery-fires-ebikes

There is something for councils to worry about. And at national level too indeed.
It looks like the batteries need to be safer, plus where and how we store them.

I wonder how many of this fires are due to phones and vapes and how many electric bikes, scouters or cars.

UK firefighters called to one lithium-ion battery fire every five hours

FoI responses collected by insurer show brigades tackled 1,760 battery-linked fires in 2025, up 147% in three years

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/11/uk-firefighters-lithium-ion-battery-fires-ebikes

38thparallel · 11/05/2026 13:10

Crime is at it lowest level for but fear of crime is at its highest
@CovenOfCheeses

I keep reading about how crime is dropping but I’m not sure. I’m on SW London Nextdoor group and every day people report that their children have been mugged, cars have been stolen or broken into, burglaries parcels stolen from doorsteps, phones snatched.
A lot of crime isn’t reported as everyone knows the police will do bugger all.
Saying crime is at its lowest level isn’t much consolation to the numerous victims of crime.

CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 15:42

Whysnothingsimple · 11/05/2026 11:25

So what do you do about the large numbers of immigrants already here, those large numbers who refuse to integrate to adopt British values, the 25 % of Muslims who think the Gaza issue is more important than the UK economy?

when you start digging down the actual immigration only a part of peoples worries it’s the integration aspect which people are concerned about.

Reform are the only partly (now with Restore) to address this in their manifesto

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Fascism is not idealism and dealing with small boats is not the massive issue that people make out it is. The fear of immigration does not really tally with the impact of immigration. While I do believe that good fences make good neighbours, is it worth destroying our economy for? Do you think we need to make massive benefit cuts and restore the two child benefit cap to retain the triple lock? Do you want a Truss level of economy crashing by cutting taxes by 90 billion. Do you want cuts to net zero and legislation to protect our environment, building safety, food safety, and health and safety to help industry? Do you want another hard brexit? Do you really want to lose human rights? Do you want an insurance based NHS?

CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 15:43

Crime is always present but you either rely on peer reviewed stats or you rely on prejudiced right wing reporting. You makes your choice.

BluebellShmoobell · 11/05/2026 15:58

CovenOfCheeses · 10/05/2026 23:13

You are right, but the woke left just use evidence and data to show that this is not the case. They argue that over 80% of asylum claims are proved and the Afghan translators/helpers etc who we abandoned to their fate are just one group of people who are irregular migrants and they should get asylum because we stopped all legitimate means of arriving in the UK. They woken people have no argument.

a person just has to quote Mein Kampf and they are called a racist. It is the flavour of the month

I agree, I did read that the amount of afghans who say they were translators outnumbers the british army. I dont care if they did translate, they probably have horrible views on women, let them live in jordan or another middle eastern country. Ive really had enough of it.

thedramaQueen · 11/05/2026 16:20

38thparallel · 11/05/2026 13:10

Crime is at it lowest level for but fear of crime is at its highest
@CovenOfCheeses

I keep reading about how crime is dropping but I’m not sure. I’m on SW London Nextdoor group and every day people report that their children have been mugged, cars have been stolen or broken into, burglaries parcels stolen from doorsteps, phones snatched.
A lot of crime isn’t reported as everyone knows the police will do bugger all.
Saying crime is at its lowest level isn’t much consolation to the numerous victims of crime.

While this is all true. We do have to bear in mind the media’s role in making us all fearful of crime.

Also, with social media in particular we all know the way algorithms work, you click on one crime story about knife crime for example and then your feed is full of stories about such crimes.

BluebellShmoobell · 11/05/2026 16:53

CovenOfCheeses · 11/05/2026 15:42

Fascism is not idealism and dealing with small boats is not the massive issue that people make out it is. The fear of immigration does not really tally with the impact of immigration. While I do believe that good fences make good neighbours, is it worth destroying our economy for? Do you think we need to make massive benefit cuts and restore the two child benefit cap to retain the triple lock? Do you want a Truss level of economy crashing by cutting taxes by 90 billion. Do you want cuts to net zero and legislation to protect our environment, building safety, food safety, and health and safety to help industry? Do you want another hard brexit? Do you really want to lose human rights? Do you want an insurance based NHS?

Why cant we have a health system like in france or Germany? Our nhs isn't working, it came about when there were about 30 million less people and we weren't getting as old. It needs reforming.