If you voted Reform, I would love to know why?

[AplineDaisies]

I am not here to judge so would just like to hear from Reform voters for their reasoning.

I am not using a different group of people as an example I just mentioned that even with a visa it's not all free stuff, you still have to pay an NHS surcharge every year.
With regard to being here illegally with no processing, if this means entering the country with no official recognition at all, staying here with no documents then you have no recourse to public funds and can only get very few things eg emergency healthcare which it would be unethical to deny anyone. An asylum seeker would be housed etc while their claim is being processed. Once refugee status is granted you can access more as you are legally here and allowed to stay, and can also find work.

Im curious, why are you assuming these posters are intelligent? Because they say they are?

But as the poster you responded to says, the group they describe, coming here with no documentation etc is the same group who refer to themselves as say seekers!

@AplineDaisiesfor someone who would “love to know why” you’ve shown precious little interest in this thread.

#firestarter

Needing prompting to get washed or dressed due to anxiety isn’t mild anxiety though. With mild anxiety, you still manage virtually everything but you probably have trouble sleeping or you’re biting your fingernails, feeling irritable. maybe a bit distracted and lacking in focus, tense.

Once anxiety starts getting moderate, you start losing your ability to be aware of everything in your environment. You can’t think clearly or solve problems. You’ll also have a lot of troubling physical symptoms like constant headaches, IBS, voice tremor, excessive sweating etc

When you arrive in the country, you can either apply for asylum and become an asylum seeker known to the authorities, and access the support on offer while your claim goes through. Or you vanish, completely unknown to the authorities, therefore making you here illegally, or your asylum claim is rejected and you do not get granted refugee status but stay anyway, making you here illegally.
People can refer to themselves however they want, it doesn't make it a fact. Legally they have certain statuses, and an asylum seeker is a person who is documented as being here by the UK authorities and going through a process during which they do have access to some support. Asylum seeker and illegal immigrant are two different things.

Well this is where the difficulty lies as medically you can be classed as having mild anxiety by a GP but if that person is saying in their PIP claim they need help with daily living etc then they technically would meet the criteria. Whether or not they got the award would depend on the decision maker / other information.

Everyone is different as well so whilst someone
may have high levels of anxiety they may be able to cope better than someone with milder anxiety. Depends on treatment, coping
mechanisms, etc.

I’m not a reform voter. I really dislike Nigel Farage- he’s a greasy opportunist. That being said I don’t agree with some of the criticisms on the thread. Most voters let national interests affect their vote. If you asked other voters why they voted for the party they did, they’d likely give some national issue they care about. Many people didn’t vote Labour because they dislike Starmer not because their bin collection isn’t great.
Also, votes like this can help with the general election. As reform performed very well their voters will be energised to vote that way come GE.

@UnhappyHobbit, apologies I should have written “intelligent” - scepticism, rather than intelligent.

Which is why they should be in detention centres, lockdown and not allowed to be in our communities until they are deported.

How many immigrants (…people) are you happy to kill of contagious, untreated disease?

There are more than 50 million based on sewage companies as they cannot process all that is produced and need to dump it in rivers. I cannot find any evidence for it but it is true and you just need to do your own research.

if the Greens really want to have a better environment then they should deport all the immigrants. They produce most of the pollution although I cannot find any evidence to back this up.

You are right, but the woke left just use evidence and data to show that this is not the case. They argue that over 80% of asylum claims are proved and the Afghan translators/helpers etc who we abandoned to their fate are just one group of people who are irregular migrants and they should get asylum because we stopped all legitimate means of arriving in the UK. They woken people have no argument.

a person just has to quote Mein Kampf and they are called a racist. It is the flavour of the month

When did anxiety arrive in the workplace I cannot say that in the last 50 years of working I have never come across it till very recently.

Hence paying private school fees directly to avoid it and all sorts of ruses

@DrasticAction School fees aren’t paid to avoid death duties - they’re just another bill. If someone spends thousands of pounds on holidays every year do you think that’s a ruse to avoid inheritance tax?

Wasn’t a reform councillor going to melt down Nigerians and use them to fill potholes? This is why people voted them in because they want to drive on decent roads and Reform are the only party who make a serious attempt at solving the pothole crisis.

Nobody owns slaves now but all the landed gentry and wealthy families are wealthy because their ancestors did.

@localnotail About one fifth of aristocratic families/landed gentry made money from slavery. That is not all of the landed gentry.

The ones we need to go up against are the billionaires controlling us through the politicians. Not each other
@PlusPoncho What form will going up against billionaires take? Revolution?

Awkward! It could be though that because you speak fluent English, she sees you as British (which you are.) I had an aunt who had similar views to the lady you describe - "too many foreigners" - and yet she spoke very highly of the village newsagent, a second generation Pakistani immigrant and his family. I noticed that her "too many foreigners" speech was always triggered by hearing people speak in a foreign language.

I second this.

Yes and no.

A lot of grandparents, apparently, pay school fees. If the parents can afford the school fees (many can't) and the grandparents have the cash and so much of it that it will be taxed on their death, then payment of school fees is avoidance, possibly even evasion, of inheritance tax. It would depend partly on how how they live for.

the grandparents have the cash and so much of it that it will be taxed on their death, then payment of school fees is avoidance, possibly even evasion, of inheritance tax.
@Imdunfer

That’s interesting. So could grandparents paying for holidays or a grandchild’s university fees also be considered tax evasion?

Yes, if the parents themself have plenty of money to pay for the holiday. I was reading about it yesterday. They would need to die before it became classified as a gift, though. I think that's 7 years?

It would also be deliberate deprivation of assets if less rich grandparents were doing it to avoid paying care home fees.

Can we not repeat such disgusting comments made by Reform councillors please.
It was bad enough that he said it but we don't need to repeat it.

This is too much for me. I think if you earned your money you have a right to make your family's life better. If the money has already been taxed, then it has been taxed.
But, if there are enough people around that have extra cash on retirement, I would like to see them paying a bit of NI contribution, for example.
When it comes to inheritance, I am more worried about those who bought massive farms to avoid paying inheritance tax, but they did not farm or not well enough. And the transfer of massive Estates, which still exist. They tend to keep the price of land far too high.