If you voted Reform, I would love to know why?

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I am not here to judge so would just like to hear from Reform voters for their reasoning.

Can you not read? Makes perfect sense to me. Still same words whether paragraphed or not…..

Then they have very short memories about the fourteen years of Tory government. Just how quickly can that be turned round?

While I agree we do need some immigration for the NHS, we have now become too reliant on it. It’s become cheaper to get staff for the NHS overseas than train people already here. So there are less courses and places available for people here who want to train to be a midwife, nurse etc.

Out of curiosity, when you say stronger border controls what do you mean exactly?
Do you want border force agents to actually be pushing boats back into the water when they arrive here? Because I sure as hell wouldn’t agree to do that as part of my job, would you?

Who exactly is freeloading on benefits, can you be a bit more detailed?

Illegal immigrants are treated as criminals. As with most criminals, they don’t generally present themselves to the authorities. They are deported if found, and usually any future asylum claim will be denied.

The Home Secretary has the power to revoke British citizenship when it has been fraudulently obtained or as a counter terrorism measure, but in general I think once someone is a citizen (most adults that get citizenship through naturalisation either have indefinite leave to remain or settled status, even if they marry a British citizen they need to meet one of those criteria) we need to treat them exactly the same as people who are multigenerationally British, otherwise we are living in an us and them civilisation. You’re British until you commit a crime? Not really how it works is it.

Sorry, are you the thread police? It was online campaign footage put out by the individuals campaigning. I think I saw it on Bluesky.

Oh yes, those damn 60 year olds who never went to university (never mind going to university wasn’t so common in those days).

Let’s all look down our noses at them, they never even left their town! What do they know?

Farage will make a massive balls up of everything if he gets the chance. He is essentially a mini Trump out for himself and himself only. ‘Look over here at these bad people and while you are distracted I will grift with my other rich cronies, asset strip and ruin the country’ is the general idea. I don’t really understand why people want what is going on in the US to happen here. The Americans seem generally fed up with it now.

Just on the point of Farage and the NHS, it’s Labour and specifically Streeting who are neck deep in US healthcare. He’s bankrolled by private US companies. Mandelson’s company ‘counselled’ Palantir in how to win the NHS data contract.

there is nothing that people can say about Reform threatening the NHS that will cut through, with good reason.

Can you give examples of these "vanity projects"?

Particularly ones that the Labour Party have started since they came to power, not ones introduced under the 14 years of Tory rule.

I live in a Reform council, won from Labour last year. TBH, i genuinely see no change.

Agreed. I don't think most people are under any illusion that fourteen years of Tories was any different. They expected Labour to reverse that and to date, based on their decisions, that's not the case. That's the point.

What change do people expect to see at a council level though? Their job is to keep everything ticking, and most of the budget goes on social care. What change do people expect to see in their day to day life at this level?

The reform voters I know range from 21-75
i was surprised at the turn out when I went along to vote, there was a big queue and mostly younger people voting, which was good to see.

Maybe flip this. Who did people vote for if not Reform. And why. Labour are absolutely useless. Over promised and under delivered - they’ve done nothing in the nearly two years in power, other than manipulate figures to make it look like they’re doing something. The Greens are as mad as a box of frogs. How anyone can vote in a party who want to legalise all drugs, make porn more accessible, think a man can be a woman and have a huge anti semitism problem in the party, leaves me speechless. The Greens used to have at least a moral message with their environmental stance, but that’s been sidelined for pushing to the front unpalatable stuff that people are apparently voting for. I like Kemi, but the Tories aren’t yet ready for being forgiven for 14 years mis rule. Maybe the above explains a bit of why Reform got in - together with a lot of what caringcarer said in their post.

And very few women if any during these campaigns. Why is that I wonder??

I didn’t vote reform, and I’m looking for a new rental property. The new act will reduce rental properties for people like me as private landlords are selling up in droves. Less properties mean higher prices, which is exactly what I’m seeing happen already.

Imported ‘low quality people’ - is that you DJT? What do you even mean by this? I’m really hoping you mean low-skilled in terms of workforce measures.

Hilarious

Exactly this!
Kemi Badenoch seems to have the worst memory of anyone & blames the current Labour Government for everything.

Liz Truss did more damage to this country in her few disastrous weeks as PM but that and Boris' buffoonery are all happily swept under the carpet.

Labour come in and try to do things like raise the NMW and it's as if they have committed a heinous crime!

I’m in that age group. Only a very small number went to university in our age group - maybe 5-10%. The rest of the population would have had a normal distribution of intelligence so certainly not thick - not all of them anyway. Today many of them would go to university.

I think Reform voters really believe that Nigel Farage can change things. What they don’t do is drill down for detail.
A NHS voucher system ? What is that then. How will that work in practice. Will you get an allowance each year and a voucher. How much would the voucher be worth. They don’t ask questions. But just make assumptions about what is meant by the statements.

I used to work in a borough with a significant number of people who seemed to think they were living in a different country. I lost count of the people who said ' I only obey the laws of Pakistan /Islam'. I thought it was a joke at first, I ended up believing that was their viewpoint. I won't vote Reform but neither will I vote Labour as they think we need specific legislation against Islamophobia, when we have laws already to address racially avgevated crime. It's a blasphemy law by the back door.

PP is wrong to use university education as a marker of intelligence. Many clever people didn’t go, and many stupid people have degrees. It means nothing.

Having a law against being scared or critical of any religion is absolutely insane and perfectly shows that’s happened to Labour.

Oh come on where should we start / let’s take the last quarter of a century shall we - the millennium gone cost the tax payers£1.3 billion in today’s money (great way to “bring the nation together” the NhS IT failure under Blair (one of several high cost lowering technology initiatives under him estimated to have lost the tax payer £10 billion.

What about the scrapped ID cards (cost an estimated N£5 billion) or the London Underground PPP - again costing the tax payer billions with no return

The PFI initiatives say ab investment of approx 13 billion and has left the taxpayer in around £80 billion of debt

Flower Bridges, wall paper (under both Blair and Boris) repainting planes - cost millions

Failed IT systems under successive governments

Green initiatives already anticipated as failed vanity projects under the current government

that’s just a few, I could go on…,,,

Billions upon billions of tax payers money wasted