Page 12 | If you voted Reform, I would love to know why?

AplineDaisies · 2026-05-08T23:58:14+00:00

I am not here to judge so would just like to hear from Reform voters for their reasoning.

PhaedraTwo · 09/05/2026 09:17

Thepitt113 · 09/05/2026 08:57

I know a few reform voters. All of them over 60, never went to university and lived in the same little town their entire life. And ironically use the NHS more than the average person.

What a nasty post. And I bet you think you're morally superior to them.

LoveHearts69 · 09/05/2026 09:18

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 08:59

The problem is there is no party for the working class anymore, or even the workers in general.

It used to be Labour, but now they are more the party of welfare.

If I had to pick, I’d probably say Tories are the closest thing to a party for working people and that would only be if I really really had to choose .

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I had actually attached a graph with donations received for each party but annoyingly it’s not uploaded yet. Based on stats like that, I do believe the Green Party are the most aligned to the working class - they aren’t corrupt and their donations are made up from their members - not from oil and gas companies or property tycoons like Reforms are.

They are looking to further tax the top 1%, end rogue landlords, put transport and water back into public ownership and they would prioritise the NHS.

I do get that not all of their policies are for everyone but the (billionaire owned) media have really gone on a smear campaign against them, and as a result people are calling them mad without reading their actual policies (no they’re not going to open all borders and sell children drugs).

EdithBond · 09/05/2026 09:18

Whysnothingsimple · 09/05/2026 08:51

I mean, if people actually read their last manifesto they would see over and over it promised to keep free at the point of access healthcare.

I like Reforms commitment to get rid of red tape. In healthcare, policing and business.

I like Reforms commitment to lowering taxes, taking many of the lowest paid out of tax (compare with the massive tax burden Labour have placed on the lowest paid and businesses)

I like their commitment to a patriotic curriculum, putting our past into a true context rather than the ridiculous and highly uneducated grunts of “Britain bad, rest of the world good” when it comes to history.

I like their commitment to remove trans ideology from all schools.

I believe they would not just cut down on the people coming to the UK but look to protect our heritage and culture by making sure people already here tried to integrate more rather than constantly clashing with British culture.

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Could you explain how they’ll keep healthcare free at the point of use while reducing taxes.

Who’ll pay for the free healthcare if not taxpayers? Individual families, via health insurance? If so, will the health insurance cost more than any National Insurance/tax they might save?

What do you expect to happen to the NHS? To get more funding and staff? Or be drained of funding and staff in favour of private healthcare companies?

And what will happen to people who need more medical care (e.g. older people, disabled adults/kids, adults/kids with long-term health conditions). How much will their insurance premiums be?

This is so important to know before, rather than after.

Zov · 09/05/2026 09:18

I don't blame ANYone for not wanting to explain why they voted for Reform on here, as they will just get torn apart by the left, with accusations of bigot, flag shagger, gammon, thick, badly-educated, and racist.

It always goes this way on here, and this thread is no different. Immediately, 2 posts in, the post by @caringcarer was laughed at and ridiculed and the poster mocked. She was brought down because it wasn't perfect English and grammar, and there were no paragraphs, and it sounded like a 'typical Reform voter.' I haven't read the thread past the first 10 posts because I CBA, because I know it will be full of left-wing posters bashing and berating anyone who doesn't think like them.

As someone said on a thread yesterday 'slating and mocking people who don't think like you politically - and mocking them - has worked really well so far hasn't it?!' When will these left wing people LEARN that mocking, berating, and laughing at people who vote for Reform is not going to make them not vote for them!!!

As for your post @caringcarer (at 2.26am today,) I agree with most of it, and so do many others, and THAT is why Reform are doing so well.... I can't bring myself to vote Reform myself, but I can see why others are doing so....

38thparallel · 09/05/2026 09:19

Do you really not think that it’s a responsibility to research how voting a certain way will result?

@MyTrivia Would you have said this if Labour had done well in the recent elections?

PhaedraTwo · 09/05/2026 09:19

CantHaveTooMuchChocolate · 09/05/2026 09:13

I didn’t vote reform, and I’m looking for a new rental property. The new act will reduce rental properties for people like me as private landlords are selling up in droves. Less properties mean higher prices, which is exactly what I’m seeing happen already.

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You are absolutely right there. Scotland has had this for a while and the sector is shrinking.

TeenagersAngst · 09/05/2026 09:19

PropertyD · 09/05/2026 09:12

And very few women if any during these campaigns. Why is that I wonder??

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No women at all. Posters can try to decry me as racist but it’s not about that at all. There’s something deeply wrong with the politics in Birmingham and very few politicians are willing to address it.

Livelovebehappy · 09/05/2026 09:21

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 09:03

While I agree we do need some immigration for the NHS, we have now become too reliant on it. It’s become cheaper to get staff for the NHS overseas than train people already here. So there are less courses and places available for people here who want to train to be a midwife, nurse etc.

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I also get tired of people continuously spouting that we need immigrants for the NHS. Let’s be honest, this is mostly at lower level entry. We have enough doctors to take jobs here. Most carers are unqualified for roles looking after our elderly and disabled, and are on NMW. We need to train people and give them a higher wage to get a better standard. Many homes for our vulnerable are poorly run because the staff aren’t suitable. If Starmer had managed to push through a Welfare reform, more people could be put back to work. It’s mad that we are basically saying that it’s okay to have so many people not working, so we need to import unqualified unsuitable people to roles. Also AI is causing a rise in unemployment so it’s clear we do have enough people to do these jobs.

forgotmyusername1 · 09/05/2026 09:21

caringcarer · 09/05/2026 02:26

The UK has almost open borders policy. We cannot afford to pay for the people who already live here and yet almost everyday between 100-200 more illegal immigrants come. To process each on cost £12k. They all need accomodation on average costing taxpayer £41k each per year. They need feeding, healthcare, the children need education and elders need care. These people have paid nothing into the UK economy they just want to take. Meanwhile people who have paid into UK econyall their working lives wait over a year for a much needed operation. Our schools are in desperate need of equipment and old buildings upgrading and modernised. We don't have enough houses for people already living here. We need to accommodate those people who have paid into the UK through taxes ffirst. We need to put a freeze on all immigration for a year whilst we sort the country out. Our country can no longer defend itself. Far more budget should go to defence also boosting our economy as our armed forces buy new British made equipment. We don't have the funding for this whilst 25 percent of the country is disabled according to the Disability Alliance using DWP figures for 2024. Disability benefits should be scaled back and those with mild anxiety, depression or ADHD should not get benefits for disability. UC claimants got an above inflationn rise this year in benefits. I think too many people only work 2 or 3 days a week because they think I'll just stay home and claim UC top up rather than working full time. I think if people choose to work part time instead of full time they should not be given UC top ups. The tax payer should not be funding a lifestyle choice. As a nation we need to get more young people in the workplace. UC as an out of work benefit should have an expiry date of 6-12 months. If people don't even apply for jobs they should lose their benefits. We need to build more houses for social housing boosting our economy and the money saved from UC could be used to restock social housing for hardworking families who may be on minimum wage but often working 60 hours a week. At the moment tax is taken away from these hard working people to fund those choosing to only work 2-3 days a week. I think ex service employees who leave the forces should be given more support to find a job and social housing if they need it. I'm hoping we come out of ECHR and instead create a UK bill of rights that gives same protections but does not recognise rights of immigrants to stay. Especially those already convicted of crimes in their own countries. Honestly they pretend to be gay and persecuted in their own country just so they can stay, yet often have wives and children. Once in the UK having asylum there should be no being allowed to bring across wives, children, parents or siblings. Overseas students should not be able to get money from SLC because so many go back home and never repay this money. If they want to study in UK there own countries should lend them money and get it back after graduation. There are too many EDI people employed at huge expense in public services like the NHS. There is already diversity there.NHS money should go to employing more nurses and doctors, more equipment, to get through waiting lists more quickly. Peywho do not attend appointments should be fined £100 for each missed appointment. If they don't pay the fine on installments if necessary they should go to the bottom of the appointment queue. A missed GP appointment should carry a £50 fine for time wasted. These fines money could fund more NHS dental appointments so every child can have a NHS dentist. Tax bands should start at £15k to encourage more people back into workplace. Stupid tax on farmers should be reversed, as should additional tax on LL's as this tax increase is just passed in to tenants anyway. Nigel won't shy away from making tough decisions.

You do realise you were voting for the local council (i.e things like bin collections) not national government don't you? Your local county council won't drive the brown people out of your town but might cut your local schools sen budget

In the low number of reform councils there already were 10% of councellors quit in the first year as tbey didn't appreciate the job actually involved more than fist waving. They gave an 18 year old a 5 million budget ffs.

Hopefully the reform councellors will do such a bad job that people will realise having a reform mp in a general election would be a terrible idea

PretendToBeToastWithMe · 09/05/2026 09:21

caringcarer · 09/05/2026 02:26

The UK has almost open borders policy. We cannot afford to pay for the people who already live here and yet almost everyday between 100-200 more illegal immigrants come. To process each on cost £12k. They all need accomodation on average costing taxpayer £41k each per year. They need feeding, healthcare, the children need education and elders need care. These people have paid nothing into the UK economy they just want to take. Meanwhile people who have paid into UK econyall their working lives wait over a year for a much needed operation. Our schools are in desperate need of equipment and old buildings upgrading and modernised. We don't have enough houses for people already living here. We need to accommodate those people who have paid into the UK through taxes ffirst. We need to put a freeze on all immigration for a year whilst we sort the country out. Our country can no longer defend itself. Far more budget should go to defence also boosting our economy as our armed forces buy new British made equipment. We don't have the funding for this whilst 25 percent of the country is disabled according to the Disability Alliance using DWP figures for 2024. Disability benefits should be scaled back and those with mild anxiety, depression or ADHD should not get benefits for disability. UC claimants got an above inflationn rise this year in benefits. I think too many people only work 2 or 3 days a week because they think I'll just stay home and claim UC top up rather than working full time. I think if people choose to work part time instead of full time they should not be given UC top ups. The tax payer should not be funding a lifestyle choice. As a nation we need to get more young people in the workplace. UC as an out of work benefit should have an expiry date of 6-12 months. If people don't even apply for jobs they should lose their benefits. We need to build more houses for social housing boosting our economy and the money saved from UC could be used to restock social housing for hardworking families who may be on minimum wage but often working 60 hours a week. At the moment tax is taken away from these hard working people to fund those choosing to only work 2-3 days a week. I think ex service employees who leave the forces should be given more support to find a job and social housing if they need it. I'm hoping we come out of ECHR and instead create a UK bill of rights that gives same protections but does not recognise rights of immigrants to stay. Especially those already convicted of crimes in their own countries. Honestly they pretend to be gay and persecuted in their own country just so they can stay, yet often have wives and children. Once in the UK having asylum there should be no being allowed to bring across wives, children, parents or siblings. Overseas students should not be able to get money from SLC because so many go back home and never repay this money. If they want to study in UK there own countries should lend them money and get it back after graduation. There are too many EDI people employed at huge expense in public services like the NHS. There is already diversity there.NHS money should go to employing more nurses and doctors, more equipment, to get through waiting lists more quickly. Peywho do not attend appointments should be fined £100 for each missed appointment. If they don't pay the fine on installments if necessary they should go to the bottom of the appointment queue. A missed GP appointment should carry a £50 fine for time wasted. These fines money could fund more NHS dental appointments so every child can have a NHS dentist. Tax bands should start at £15k to encourage more people back into workplace. Stupid tax on farmers should be reversed, as should additional tax on LL's as this tax increase is just passed in to tenants anyway. Nigel won't shy away from making tough decisions.

I didn’t bother to try to read through this response as the first sentence is just blatantly wrong. What makes you think the UK has open borders? I have been through the immigration process as a highly educated, native English speaker and I’m astounded anyone who is less privileged makes it through. There are strict requirements to meet in order to stay here, and the administrative process is designed to make you fail every step of the way.

Monty36 · 09/05/2026 09:21

People will expect adult social care to improve locally. And children social care to improve.
People will expect potholes to be fixed.
People will expect their council tax to reduce
People will expect county lines crime to die out.
People will expect horrid shops selling dope and crap to no longer do so.
And people will not expect anyone to say that because they have been left with no money that they are unable to do any of the above. Every council has its own issues, the skill is to resolve them and sort them out. You put yourself forward.
People do not expect excuses anymore.
People will not expect contracts to go to mates and friends.
People will expect Councillors to not have bent planning arrangements
And to work in equal measure for all constituents.

loislovesstewie · 09/05/2026 09:22

I think people are fed up with the never ending bin strike. What a farce!

Monty36 · 09/05/2026 09:23

People will expect organisations supporting disabled people to continue being funded.

People will expect bins collected but not service extensions. And for tip/dump access to be maintained.

Callmeback · 09/05/2026 09:24

loislovesstewie · 09/05/2026 09:22

I think people are fed up with the never ending bin strike. What a farce!

Never had a bin strike in my lifetime and I've lived in a few different council areas around the country.

Katypp · 09/05/2026 09:24

Thepitt113 · 09/05/2026 08:57

I know a few reform voters. All of them over 60, never went to university and lived in the same little town their entire life. And ironically use the NHS more than the average person.

Goodness, who knew there were enough over-60s who never went to university and lived in the same town all their lives to completely upend the status quo?
It must be awful for you knowing these people.

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 09:25

PretendToBeToastWithMe · 09/05/2026 09:21

I didn’t bother to try to read through this response as the first sentence is just blatantly wrong. What makes you think the UK has open borders? I have been through the immigration process as a highly educated, native English speaker and I’m astounded anyone who is less privileged makes it through. There are strict requirements to meet in order to stay here, and the administrative process is designed to make you fail every step of the way.

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I assume you came here legally. The poster is clearly talking about those who come via illegal channel crossings on small boat. They won’t have to go through the same process you did.

Whysnothingsimple · 09/05/2026 09:26

PhaedraTwo · 09/05/2026 09:17

What a nasty post. And I bet you think you're morally superior to them.

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i mean, it probably reflects the poster’s lack of participation in a wider social circle, I’m highly educated, good career, live 300 miles away from the place I grew up (have also lived in other places). I’m widely travelled, have friends all over the world.

Reform have my vote and the vote of many like me.

I find it’s the poorly educated (and even if you have been to university you can be poorly educated, if you learned to pass exams rather than satisfy your need to be curious -people who are curious become erudite and often better educated than many university attendees these days) who struggle to accept others see and experience the world differently and therefore have different priorities to them. They are usually the easiest to indoctrinate

Zov · 09/05/2026 09:26

Katypp · 09/05/2026 09:24

Goodness, who knew there were enough over-60s who never went to university and lived in the same town all their lives to completely upend the status quo?
It must be awful for you knowing these people.

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Agree with @PhaedraTwo that was a nasty post from @Thepitt113 (at 8.57.)

As I said, these threads always go the same way... Awful insults - from the left - towards anyone who doesn't think like them... Usually, 'thick,' 'racist' 'flag shagger' etc..

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WheretheFishesareFrightening · 09/05/2026 09:26

Imdunfer · 09/05/2026 08:45

You obviously don't understand that the strong vote will change the national policies presented by all the main parties at the next election. Or that many people will have voted Reform to make that happen and not with any intention of electing them into Westminster in 2028/9

And you have dared to call Reform voters stupid 🙄

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I don’t think reform voters are necessarily stupid, particular those that vote reform at GE. But they had no local policies, nor have I heard a local policy stated by anyone justifying their recent Reform vote - and voting in local elections on national issues is stupid.

But let’s see if it does change national policies. I hope it see the Tories issue a manifesto that wins back Reform voters, but I remain sceptical. Most things Labour has done so far has had the obvious effect of hampering the economy and their opinion polls, so I’m sceptical this is what they needed to change direction (and sort of horrified if it was).

Whysnothingsimple · 09/05/2026 09:27

Callmeback · 09/05/2026 09:24

Never had a bin strike in my lifetime and I've lived in a few different council areas around the country.

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Not Birmingham then?

Ticktockk · 09/05/2026 09:28

Sonato · 09/05/2026 07:14

Are we adequately equipped for the number arriving here daily?

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It’s not actually 100-200 arriving daily. It averages out to that number so it’s used as it looks good in the media. It’s 41000 a year. It’s obviously still a huge number but I think it’s misleading to say they’re coming every day.

loislovesstewie · 09/05/2026 09:28

PretendToBeToastWithMe · 09/05/2026 09:21

I didn’t bother to try to read through this response as the first sentence is just blatantly wrong. What makes you think the UK has open borders? I have been through the immigration process as a highly educated, native English speaker and I’m astounded anyone who is less privileged makes it through. There are strict requirements to meet in order to stay here, and the administrative process is designed to make you fail every step of the way.

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We had open borders when we were in the EU/EA, which is why so many people arrived in a very short period of time from the A8 countries. They were given almost immediate access to public services including social housing. The Labour Party could have placed restrictions on that but erroneously thought very few would arrive. And that they would all be highly qualified professionals when they weren't. This isn't a bash the A8 nationals post, I'm just pointing out the folly of the Labour Party.

Livelovebehappy · 09/05/2026 09:29

Thepitt113 · 09/05/2026 08:57

I know a few reform voters. All of them over 60, never went to university and lived in the same little town their entire life. And ironically use the NHS more than the average person.

I doubt this is true. Maybe it’s something you’ve made up in your head, or read in the Guardian, but either way, not true.

Monty36 · 09/05/2026 09:29

My Reform candidates details were that he lived here, was married and what his favourite biscuit was.
And that was it.

He was voted in.

Nanny0gg · 09/05/2026 09:29

You know it was local elections, right?

Are they going to fix your potholes?