Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations?

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For me it’s undeniable and the evidence is overwhelming, but I’m shocked by the amount of people who don’t.

This is disgusting if it's true.

I'm sure there's a police search video online.

I think because people equate the sleepovers with guilt yet they accept Culkin wasn't abused. So what was he doing with him then? Sure did waste a lot of time on a boy he had no interest in. If he had innocent reasons to hang out with Culkin, Brett Barnes etc. it's not THAT much of a stretch to think that could've applied to all of them. It could be a cover, obviously. But again it's a lot of effort to go to. They implied in the LN documentary that Brett "replaced" Wade-and he had to come out and say he wasn't happy with the documentary or the implication he was also abused.

Not sure about the animal porn but he definitely 100% had books of naked photos of boys, the books were made by convicted pedophiles.

The only thing I can find for evidence is one testimonial account, versus a couple of other accounts that said he didn't abuse them. Can you link to anything you have more than that? I know that a jury cited insufficient evidence and credibility issues and acquitted him.

I am not saying he was necessarily innocent. I am saying based on what I can find I don't know.

Absolutely. I’m disgusted that they’ve made a film worshipping him and people think it’s ok. It makes me feel sick to hear his music. I don’t really agree with banning music but it does say a lot about people who still choose to listen to it.

Macaulay Culkin was fucked-up and miserable for years. Only recently seems to have got himself sorted. I'm not convinced he wasn't a victim.

Oh, yuck, I did not know that. Not saying that's not true, but how do we know this? I am genuinely asking who has info, because it may be hidden but all I can find is that he was acquitted, maybe I am not using the right search terms as I am leery of typing anything too weird into Google :(

He said he had sleepovers with kids and described sharing his bed with them as a "beautiful thing".

That is enough evidence for me.

If any adult said that about kids I would automatically assume they were a paedophile.

It was discussed at the trial.
The defense said they were just 'art books'. Technically they are, but they're made by pedos and bought by pedos and should be illegal.
And considering MJ had little boys sleeping in his bed I think it's safe to assume they weren't 'art books' for him.

Do people think he abused his own kids?
Something very weird about the way he made those kids cover their faces

Not seen the NL film

I’m going to go against the grain of this thread and say I really do not know if he was an abuser or just an incredibly messed up individual.

I’ve met a few people with diagnosed personality disorders, so the MJ style eccentrics do exist in real life and aren’t always nefarious. I have also met people who have made proven false allegations of a sexual nature who will swear that they were abused even when it’s categorically proven that it couldn’t have happened in the way they’ve described (or indeed couldn’t have happened at all).

I find it very suspicious that the father of one of the accusers stated that, if MJ paid him a large sum of money, he wouldn’t report him to the police. That isn’t the action of a protective parent and seems very opportunistic.

Which testimonial have you read?

I absolutely believe them.
It actually makes me feel a bit sick that there are still movies etc being made about him.

I can’t even listen to his music on the radio…..
And any sane person would never dangle their tiny baby over a balcony.
Even without all of the other indicators, there was something deeply wrong with him.

If one of your neighbours or someone at work said they enjoyed sleepovers with kids you would mark them down as a wrong'un and phone the police

Not seen any new allegations but remember the Bashir doc where he admitted sleeping with children. Also dangling that young baby over the balcony. He was certainly an oddball.

Of course. There’s no question.

No. I think it’s a bunch of low life, desperate people trying to make money off of him both in life and death.

I thought he went on trial and was acquitted?

Nah I'm not sure I do believe it

Exactly. The kids aged out at a certain point and he got new non teenage ones. Horrific.

He was a highly intelligent guy who masterminded record deals etc. He was a massive manipulator who hid in plain sight. A total abuser no doubt at all.

Sorry it's long this is a copy paste from Google ai search. I think he was weird. I think it's possible he was a child abuser. I am just not sure.

The evidence against Michael Jackson consists primarily of testimonial accounts from accusers and allegations documented in media, as no physical or forensic evidence of criminal conduct was found by law enforcement.
Criminal Trial Evidence (2005)

• Testimony: The prosecution relied on the testimony of Gavin Arvizo and his family, who alleged Jackson molested Gavin and administered alcohol to him at Neverland Ranch in 2003.
• Documentary Footage: Clips from the ITV documentary Living with Michael Jackson, showing Jackson holding hands with children and discussing sharing beds, were used to illustrate his behavior.
• Witnesses: Defense witnesses, including Macaulay Culkin and Wade Robson (at the time), testified that Jackson had not abused them, directly contradicting the prosecution's narrative.
• Outcome: Jackson was acquitted on all 10 counts in June 2005, with jurors citing insufficient evidence and credibility issues with prosecution witnesses.

Civil Settlements and Later Allegations

• 1993 Settlement: Jackson settled a civil lawsuit with Jordan Chandler for $23 million. Jackson denied guilt, stating he settled to avoid prolonged legal interference with his career.
• 2019 Documentary Leaving Neverland: Wade Robson and James Safechuck alleged in the documentary that Jackson abused them repeatedly from childhood. Robson had previously testified for the defense in 2005.
• Recent Lawsuits: As of 2026, new legal claims have emerged, including a lawsuit from the Cascio siblings alleging sex trafficking and abuse beginning when they were young children.

Law Enforcement Findings

• FBI and Police Investigations: Investigations in 1993, 2003, and 2005, including searches of Neverland Ranch and Jackson’s computers, found no incriminating physical evidence or outstanding credible leads.
• FBI Files: Released FBI files confirmed that federal investigations concluded there was no evidence of criminal conduct on Jackson's part.

From the trial
.."Another juror remarked that "there wasn't a shred of evidence that was able to show us or give us any doubt in voting guilty. It was pretty obvious there was no other way to vote other than not guilty."[87]
In a news conference held after the trial, a juror said, "We expected better evidence, something that was a little more convincing. It just wasn't there"...

I don't understand how anyone could watch the "Leaving Neverland" documentary and not be horrified by his behaviour. It's so obvious he sexually abused those boys. I find it baffling that people don't seem to care and are still going to see the West End show and the new movie about him, talking about how good it is etc. My work colleagues have been taking their kids. How they can all turn a blind eye to the fact he was a paedophile is beyond me.

Are those type of sickos generally that open though? I have no idea so I'm genuinely asking. I feel like Michael was the only one who openly admitted doing that so the world didn't really know what to think. Like yes it was dodgy and inappropriate as hell but if he was guilty why on earth would he be so open about it?