Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations?

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For me it’s undeniable and the evidence is overwhelming, but I’m shocked by the amount of people who don’t.

And 77 million people voted for Trump and many probably would again if he got to do another term...

@kkloo 🤣

If you mean Matt Fiddes he was never paid. He was MJs close friend and acted as a bodyguard when MJ was in the UK, but he was never an employee

You've hit the nail on the head!

Its not uncommon for abuse victims to receive financial compensation though.

My mother was abused by nuns as a child. The government set up a compensation scheme for all the victims. My mum received compensation. We were so happy for her. It represented more than money. It showed that she was listened to.

As they should be. I'm glad your mum was compensated for what most have been a horrific experience . 🧡

Except in this case these people were auctioning off MJs belongings, writing glowing books about him in the period just after his death and then asking for hundreds of millions prior to making accusations via the media. It feels like taking advantage

Because it was a completely different experience, Michael abused those boys but he was gentle with them and showered them with love and gifts etc outside of that.

'Feels like taking advantage'. Michael took advantage of kids for his own sick pleasure.

@kkloo I think you're confused. Your post isn't relevant to the point I'm making

Yes it is.
You specifically compared them when you said 'except in this case they....'

Whilst people like the woman you describe exist, MJ was not one of them. He was an incredibly manipulative child abuser hiding in plain sight. Hoodwinking people to believe a scenario like the one you describe. He used his incredible fame, talent and charisma to convince people that he didn’t have nefarious intentions.

Oh, I wonder if he was also sleeping in the same bed as MJ and the prepubescent children? I doubt it.

He must've been planning it since he was 5 years old then. It's not like his childhood (or lack of one) is not public record. Even IF he's guilty, I don't believe his entire persona was fake.

Oh, I do. The voice was definitely fake.

in the Studio 54 Documentary he’s being interviewed there, he has a normal deep voice

Haters will aways be haters, Please get a life.

When Culkin was a child, MJ used to look at pictures of him and say things like ‘look at his luscious lips’.

You’re right, it isn’t uncommon.

But it is uncommon to go for more money (in this case millions) after receiving millions a few years before:

https://variety.com/2026/music/news/michael-jackson-lawsuit-sexual-abuse-cascio-brainwash-1236730000/

Yes, I do.

The ‘fake’ voice was one part of his persona.

But it wasn’t really fake. I’ve watched some clips of him talking and his voice doesn’t sound any different, perhaps slightly deeper e.g when he was talking at James Brown’s funeral.

Perhaps when someone’s been through childhood sexual assault/trauma, they want to rewrite history. If they said it never happened, and even put it in a book, they can erase the abuse and change history.

One theme that is common with this set of victims is that the gravity of it all didn’t hit until they had their own children.

As for Sean Lennon, none of us know. If he was assaulted and wants to keep his private life private, that is his right. If it happened, he does not owe it to us to share his childhood trauma with the world.

There’s a video on YouTube from 2012 of Robson dancing to a Jackson song. Around this time he was turned down from a job with the Jackson estate and was having money problems when he pursued the first lawsuit.

Safechuck joined that lawsuit around the same time he pursued a lawsuit with family members to gain control of a family business, after a relative had died. Some might say he saw his expected inheritance potentially disappear and panicked, hence joining the lawsuit with Robson. Safechuck claims he talked in therapy sessions about the abuse in 2011 and 2012 - it will be interesting to see if the therapist will testify in the trial.

And presumably money that is awarded can be used towards counselling and support. I'm pleased your mum was listened to.

Has anyone ever come forward with allegations and said "here is my story. I don't want money. I just want to share my story"? No. It's all about the money. Might make them a bit more credible if they did 🙄Shouldn't be allowed to make claims once someone is dead and can't put their side across.

I think its obvious MJ had a lot of trauma and issues from.his childhood, but its not like he had completely regressed/or stunted at age 10 for example. In plenty of areas of his life he lived and, behaved like an adult man.

The example given where an adult woman was essentially like a 6 year old would mean there would likely have been social service involvement, its not even clear she was living independently. This cant really be said about MJ.

Its seems unusual that he was only childlike when having friendships and sleepovers with young boys....but the rest of the time was able to function as an adult

If your child was abused @AutumnLover1990wouldnt you expect some sort of compensation for them? I certainly would. Sexual abuse is a life wrecker. It messes people up and causes life long mental health issues.

Even the defenders of MJ on this thread are brainwashed by MJ because he used phrases like ‘don’t read the tabloids’ and ‘I put myself in a vulnerable position’ and people are still brainwashed by this nonsense to this day, using the exact words that he, himself used.

There is evidence that he was paying people off in the 80s, years before the first child alleged abuse. People that worked in the house would tell the police that they were asked to give children in the house wine and then on the stand they would change it to Coca Cola because they were manipulated.

To even have a case like this against someone, the evidence has to be very compelling for a defendant to be indicted.