Anyone else uneasy about the unanswered questions after the shooting?

[Catpuss66]

Is it me but I find very odd that JD Vance was rescued first, but not Trump he ended up on his knees. Find these attempted assassinations very suspect. We never know much about the shooters. Well this one is from California presume he wants to stick that to Newsome. Political violence should never be encouraged or condoned.

If we're going all conspiracy theory on it, I'd be looking at a Kind Hearts and Coronets type thing.👀

Firstly I absolutely hate Trump, I think he’s a very deranged, dangerous man.

Having said that I don’t think this shooting was a set up, but I do think his security is awful.

JD is already off the stage and out of harms way, whilst Trump is still sat in his chair, still an easy target, with two people stood either side of him. What sort of protection is that?? Then the people with rifles come from the side furthest away from Trump- why weren’t they on his side of the stage, so they could get to him quickly?

It all looks like something from Hot Fuzz.

Presumably each person has an allocated security detail, so Vance's security were responsible for getting him out of the way and that's what they did. Donald might be getting upset because his team were a bit tardy. I think an awful lot of people would like to kill Donald Trump so I don't think it's fake.

Leaving aside Trumps desire for a ballroom of his own, is there no other venue in Washington DC suitable for something like this other than an hotel full of comings and goings of ordinary guests, who let's face it could bring any sort of weapon in their luggage/bag etc.?

There were a lot of "important" people attending, and something like a flare to start with could have caused panic, then a follow up. It's mad stuff how open the venue is. That's my take on it.

@Lovelyview

Agreed,

and TBH If we knew exactly how this was meant to be handled there's been a stuff up.

What violence from the left? Name one? My take is you can give out hurty words & say it is free speech, but you cannot take it.
what liberal media in the uk? Most of our tabloids I feel are right leaning that is why I don’t read them anymore.
you think ICE isn’t comparable with the gestapo, most of us do. Trump threatening allied countries with annexation. You think there are no comparisons with Hitler? He has ruined your country & your children will never forgive you, it will take generations to trust the US again, ask the Germans.

Well, I replied to your question "Ah right, so what was it, a fake bag of exploding blood?"

The guy who was the shooter - any number of reasons. Completely broke, but family member needs lifesaving medical help. Family are on the breadline. Notoriety.

It really isn't beyond the realms of possibility that his cult following would/could be persuaded or groomed into doing this.

It's also not beyond the realms of possibility that they consider others to be dispensable for their greater good

Elias Rodriguez shot two Israeli Embassy staff in Washington DC in May 2025. News reports say he shouted ,'Free Palastine' and was linked to left wing organisations.

This article outlines more 'left wing' violence in the US.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/09/charlie-kirk-left-wing-terrorism/684323/

Well all sorts of things are not entirely beyond the realms of possibility, in theory. That doesn't make any of them remotely likely or plausible compared to the most obvious, very likely, very plausible explanation, does it?

I find it absolutely staggering that there are people prepared to believe that the US government can find not one but two men to volunteer for the job of pretending to shoot the POTUS. And that those men are prepared to die or go to prison for a very long time, and that other innocent people will be shot and killed to make the whole thing look more authentic. But you find it too far fetched to believe that a couple of people really have tried to shoot Trump.

Are you one of those 9/11 conspiracy theorists as well?

I find it absolutely staggering that there are people prepared to believe that the US government couldn't possibly have done this. I would put absolutely nothing past Trump. He's a liar, he's ruthless, a horrible person, a gaslighter and a paedo.
And no, I also don't find it too far fetched to believe that a couple of people really have tried to shoot Trump.

So come on, indulge me. Tell me how you think the 'ear' shooting played out. How they ended up with a weird kid dead on a roof and an innocent member of the public also dead? And for what purpose?

And are you a 9/11 conspiracy theorist too, or not?

Terrorism is a very different thing to violence.talking from a country that experienced terrorism for decades What about the 2 unarmed at the time of death of US citizens shot at point blank range, what about ICE raping & robbing people. How many people have died in detention?
teachers ringing up hotlines wanting 5 yr old detained & deported, then complaining when satire used. Very funny to listen too but in reality terrifying that these people are teaching tiny children with views like that.

The cartilage didn't grow back, that picture is a fake.

Ive already told you how it's completely plausible why and how two people ended up dead AND for what purpose. Not sure what point you're (still) pushing.

No, I'm not a 9/11 conspiracy theorist

What a stupid thread. Some people will believe anything about someone they don't like.

TDS is strong on mumsnet. Bring back mental asylums.