A third person killed in the uk by non banned dogs.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05d2675pelo

I meant to sat non banned dog breeds.

What’s your question?

Doesn’t mean to say they have haven’t got ‘XL Bully’ type DNA in them - so much unregulated but legal cross-breeding goes on in the UK.

I 100% agree. I saw a bloke the other day with a couple of very thin XL type bullies. He looked as if he couldn't afford to feed himself. I've seen lots of XLs off kead. I think the authorities only make an example of a few XL owners

You know that there are very few breeds on the banned list and there are many similar breeds that dickheads like to own and train to be aggressive? I do recognise the "get rid of all dogs, they're vicious" campaign, but, as the owner of a butter-soft walking mop, I'd suggest that you're pretty far from the truth in respect of the majority of dogs. It's also pretty repulsive to utilise a person's death in this way.

What point are you wanting to make by mentioning the non-banned status of the dog-type that killed this woman?
There are horrifyingly too many people being killed or seriously injured by dogs at the moment. Even though banning certain 'types' isn't a full solution, it still seems like an appropriate step forward. I hope the govt will do more, making it harder to breed dogs commercially of whatever type and putting more responsibility on breeders and owners to ensure the welfare of dogs and their suitability to exist alongside humans

The point being that many breeds of do are capable of inflicting serious injuries. I've not posted on here to get into an argument with anyone.

XL Bullies are an obvious problem, but in addition to that there are far too many dogs being kept in completely unsuitable environments and too many people choosing breeds completely unsuited to their lifestyles just because they like the “look” of those breeds or they’re fashionable, with no understanding of or commitment to the training and socialisation needs of those breeds. Bored, under-exercised, stressed, ill-trained and ill-socialised dogs are more likely to behave unpredictably.

Our neighbours have friends who live in an upper floor flat who have a pair of large husky/malamute type dogs - they aren’t taking these dogs running for miles, they’re completely the wrong dogs for people with inactive lifestyles cooped up in a small flat all day and I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised to hear one day they’d turned.

I think your remark about council tenants is uncalled for. I was a council tenant for many years ago and non of my neighbours had out of control dogs.

I'm not making any judgement here,just saying that dog attacks are on the rise. I do think however that certain breeds should be banned,anything that can overpower a grown human should not be a family pet.

It’s depressing as hell. People’s behaviour is worsening in all areas of life. Many dog owners are not being responsible. At the low level, they are letting their dogs wander round shops and cafes making a nuisance, and at the externe end, they are creating violent monsters who kill. It’s just a breakdown of social responsibility.

Ban them all. Or require thorough training and regular inspections.

Uh... the poor baby was killed by pocket bullies. So bull breed dogs.

I think we all know what type of dogs are the problem here. The odd lurcher or Jack Russell death once in a blue moon doesn't change that, and pretending otherwise is disingenuous. Give you the option of being attacked by a pitbull or a chihuahua and I think we all know what you'd pick.

I grew up in council housing actually and yes it is unfair but absolutely nobody can deny that most of the pricks that are causing the problem with these dogs are council tenants. Take the ability to keep dogs away from them and the deaths and injuries will drop massively.

Aside from banning everyone from owning dogs over a certain weight, what do you propose that is actually enforceable and fair?

How do you stop Daz mating his cane corso to his mates Rottie and just producing something that's not banned but still lethal?

You say it's not fair but life isnt. Is it fairer to make Marjorie pay a licence fee for her Westie when nobody reports the shithead down the road who doesn't bother licencing his massive bull cross?

The shitheads are to blame for this. No one else.

Too many dogs, too many poorly bred dogs, too many dogs not actually being looked after properly dogs and too many dogs being abused who then snap at some point.

Until the tide turns back again it will continue. Everything goes though phases and dog ownership in this large quantity is no different

Tougher sentencing for the owners and always a custodial sentence for the owner when a dog kills would be more effective. No dog is born vicious.

The shitheads are to blame for this. No one else.

Yes. Id like to see much harsher penalties for owners, particularly as it's often clear that the dog(s) were mistreated. A separate consecutive punishment for that and a lifetime pet-keeping ban would be a start.

I'm not making any judgement here,just saying that dog attacks are on the rise.

Are they actually on the rise or has there been an increase in media coverage...?

I would be interested to know what the actual breeds of the dogs are of the recent attacks. It always just says non banned or banned breed dogs if it says about it at all

Another ridiculous Mumsnet anti dog thread. Dogs are not aggressive creatures by nature and the vast majority are incredibly tolerant beings.
It’s the idiots who mistreat and poorly train them that are the problem. Dogs rarely just attack there are always warning signs and it’s our job to understand them and act accordingly.

Banning dogs is ridiculous.

When I was young , a long long time ago, I lived on a council estate and there was usually a pack of dogs running round the estate during the day. It was the practice for people to put their dogs out in the morning, let them run round loose all day, and then they would go home in the evening. Things were particularly intense when there was a bitch on heat.

As a child I found this quite frightening. But the amazing thing was you never heard in those days of people being attacked by dogs. Perhaps the very occasional dog bite but even that was rare.

So.something has radically changed to make dogs become the potential and actual killers that they are now.

This is extremely near to my heart because I grew up.a few streets away from the recent horrible fatality in Redcar. I moved away from the area many many years ago but it would have been inconceivable in my childhood for this awful thing to have happened despite all the dogs on the loose in the streets then.

Pocket bullies killed the 3 month old baby,a not particularly large lucher tge 19 year old woman. I dont know which breed killed the older lady.

No, ban dangerous dogs.
My mum is in a council house and has a greyhound. Why should she not be allowed him because of the type of tenancy she has?
Can we not be stereotyping people who live in social housing? It is unnecessary.

I read the dogs in this case were Rottweilers.