A third person killed in the uk by non banned dogs.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05d2675pelo

Yeoldegreyhound, Genuinely, what do you propose? What is the answer? How do you define dangerous dogs in order to ban them?

Because simply naming breeds doesn't work because these idiots just cross them which is exactly how XL bullies came about. They are a 'new breed' developed by idiots circumnavigating the ban on pitbulls.

So anything over a certain weight? Height? Well that means Greyhounds might well be banned too ..

It's not a simple as saying 'ban dangerous dogs'.

The only proper solutions will also be really harsh on decent people who are law abiding.

It was a Labrador in France that resulted in it's owner needing a face transplant. I was sad to hear that a lurcher that had been a family pet since a puppy, slept on bed but and killed that young girl . I wonder why or are we too complacent about actual wild descendants animals in our homes ?

It's very sad. There is more to the lurcher story than has been reported. It appears the dad keeps/breeds XL bullies and according to the aunt in numerous posts, the girl died splitting up a dog fight.

I read the case of that moron who was breeding bullies in his Jaywick council house and hadn’t walked the poor dogs in WEEKS. How will we resource the numbers of enforcers needed to monitor dog licences? It would end up being like traffic fines where law abiding people in insured cars pay all the fines and the mouth breathing unlicensed idiots in unsafe cars who cause crashes just pay pennies out of their benefits.

It is cheaper to pay the fine for driving uninsured than to pay for insurance. It would be cheaper to risk the fine for backyard breeding in your council flat than to comply with any laws.

Pocket bullies killed the 3 month old baby,a not particularly large lucher the 19 year old woman. I dont know which breed that killed the older lady.

Rottie or Rottie crosses apparently 😢

I thought the sane. The lurcher was really quite small with a very narrow jaw. I smelled a rat when daddy made a point of saying on live TV",put the dog to sleep ". A dog of that size couldn't rip a person's throat out. I knew he was lying because he was oversharing details, like his ( gay) partners name,to throw people off the scent

People have stopped treating dogs as dogs. They don't have human emotions like we feel or have the same needs as humans. It's unfair on the dog to expect that from them. A vet friend spoke about it and why he thinks we are seeing so much problems in dogs just now. No true dog lover would ever call it their fur baby etc

Yes and whilst you might get away with spoiling your Cavapoo, your Cane Corso x XLbully, not so much....

I remember that well. Didn't she attempt suicide from pills and alcohol?

I called my dog my furbaby. That did not impact her behaviour at all. She was the best dog.

@BrentlySo I can’t have my 12kg whippet because I live in a social housing property? But it’s fine for my brother to own a Cane Corso, or my colleague a Rottweiler because they pay full market rent? What a stupid suggestion.

Rottie crossed with an XL bully according to social media (XL bully mother, rottie father).

All breeds of dog are capable of inflicting serious injury.

But I don't agree with banning all dogs.

Owners have the responsibility to train and manage their dogs' behaviour. It's ok if you have a snappy dog, as long as you acknowledge it and take sensible precautions to keep visitors and the wider community safe.

But the general public should also be responsible for how they interact with unknown dogs. Teach children it's not OK to run up to a strange dog and try and stroke it. Always ask the owner before touching an unknown dog.

I don't agree with dogs being taken everywhere the owners go, cafés, shops etc. I think some environments can be overly busy for some dogs and may heighten their desire to "protect". It wouldn't surprise me if there was a rise in dog related incidents over the next few years as they inveigle into everyday life.

I love dogs, we had one and may well get another, but it's a dog, not a shopping companion.

You've posted on aibu, and don't expect an argument? Maybe you should have posted in Chat.

I agree with PPs about tougher penalties for owners of dangerous dogs, make an example of them and it'll give others pause. Police need to start exercising stop and seize powers for dogs that appear out of control, including large powerful dogs who are aggressively straining at the end of the lead while their wet-wipe owner is leaning back at a 45 degree angle at the other end trying to keep them tethered. Zero tolerance policy when dogs are complained about - a common factor in almost all of these cases is that neighbours have made complaints about the dogs and nothing has been done. Lower the threshold for acting on dog complaints. I'd also like to see restrictions on breeding and tighter control on the sale and exchange of dogs.

i personally think certain breeds of working dogs should be banned for keeping as house pets, and that their ownership should be reserved for people using them AS working dogs only.

Belgian Malinois and some of the larger Livestock Guardian Dogs, and other Sheepdog/Herding breeds should be limited.

Most dog attacks are because the dogs are not being kept in suitable environments or given suitable stimulation, they become bored, neurotic, and dangerous.

That was common in the 70s my grandad got a new dog that way in the 80s his dogs escaped brought home a friend who never really left until she got run over no idea whose dog she was originally

We are going to see an increase in this. Those who liked the bully dogs for the 'image' (iykwim) will simply go to the nearest mix allowed, raise that dog no differently and will inevitably get the same results.

What we need is more than just breed banning. We need responsible ownership. Registration, some sort of indication the owner knows the first thing about dogs. As part of registration maybe a short quiz or test or something. Mandatory third party insurance even. Statistically low risk breeds get the lowest insurance premiums.

I think as a country we have gone slightly mad over dogs as a child most dogs had some sort of purpose they were trained socialised not pandered discipline was a sharp word and a tug on the lead that was all that was needed yesterday I went to a pets at home (they have a vets there) a dog on an extension lead was allowed to approach me while i was shopping he then started barking growling and lunging towards me the owner glanced at me when I told her to control her dog but made no effort to pull the dog towards them just sat there bemused and serene like this is normal I later passed her in the car park she was still holding the dog loose lead walking through the middle of a car park zero control or care it wasn't a bully breed but a doodle but they can still bite and do damage its owners like this I despair over why do you have a dog for? Decorative purpose? Fucking control your dog TRAIN your dog DO SOMETHING about your dog

People need to understand they are animals not cute slightly crazed children

An obvious starting point would be to require the owners of non neutered dogs to be licensed and subject to strict control

She should not have let her dog approach you, but dogs are not born with manners. They need to be trained. Maybe she had only just got the dog.

ALL dogs?!? So my fluffy little mini schnauzer puppy should be banned?!?! 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️

All the more reason then for her to be shit hot on training and setting appropriate behavioural boundaries. My dog is a rescue and from day one of fostering him prior to finalising the adoption, we started training him to not act like a twat.

He has a strong food drive and has some anxiety related behaviours he'll never fully shake, but jumping up at people was one of the first behaviours we trained him out of because it's simply not an acceptable or desirable behaviour. When training him it was obviously a work in progress but that included keeping him on a short lead, being hyper-vigilant of where he was and what he was doing, and apologising to people if he did attempt to jump up.