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A third person killed in the uk by non banned dogs.

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faggotsandmushypaes · 16/04/2026 17:16

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05d2675pelo

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faggotsandmushypaes · 16/04/2026 19:13

DisplayPurposesOnly · 16/04/2026 18:06

I'm not making any judgement here,just saying that dog attacks are on the rise.

Are they actually on the rise or has there been an increase in media coverage...?

Possibly, but its how these dogs are being bred.

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TedDog · 16/04/2026 19:13

@TheunamedcatHave you never heard of punctuation and paragraphs?! I was out of breath reading that!

DrDonaldTrump · 16/04/2026 19:13

I am for a ban of all dogs, it is beyond ridiculous how we allow these animals in our society when they do so much damage - not just deaths but severe injuries.

If people can't bear the idea of a cull, then at the very least we should immediately spay/neuter all dogs, abort any pups if the bitch somehow does become pregnant, and make all dogs wear a muzzle at all times when outside. In your own home, your risk is on you.

Not sure this would have fixed things for any of the three who got killed in one week - baby got killed by runaway dogs, 19yo by her own dog, and so far seems this elder lady was in her own home. But it would be a step in the right direction.

I also dream of a pavement without dog shit on it, a park without dog piss everywhere.

Goldeh · 16/04/2026 19:13

Error404FucksNotFound · 16/04/2026 18:57

We are going to see an increase in this. Those who liked the bully dogs for the 'image' (iykwim) will simply go to the nearest mix allowed, raise that dog no differently and will inevitably get the same results.

What we need is more than just breed banning. We need responsible ownership. Registration, some sort of indication the owner knows the first thing about dogs. As part of registration maybe a short quiz or test or something. Mandatory third party insurance even. Statistically low risk breeds get the lowest insurance premiums.

I'd support this.

I know people try shoot ideas like this down by saying that only responsible dog owners will do it and the irresponsible owners will just ignore it. That's entirely the point of such legislation though and it makes it easier to seize unregistered dogs and prosecute feckless owners.

faggotsandmushypaes · 16/04/2026 19:16

user1471453601 · 16/04/2026 18:48

You've posted on aibu, and don't expect an argument? Maybe you should have posted in Chat.

I hadn't realised that. I thought id posted in chat.

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Lokielo · 16/04/2026 19:19

Bluegreenbird · 16/04/2026 18:23

I read the case of that moron who was breeding bullies in his Jaywick council house and hadn’t walked the poor dogs in WEEKS. How will we resource the numbers of enforcers needed to monitor dog licences? It would end up being like traffic fines where law abiding people in insured cars pay all the fines and the mouth breathing unlicensed idiots in unsafe cars who cause crashes just pay pennies out of their benefits.

It is cheaper to pay the fine for driving uninsured than to pay for insurance. It would be cheaper to risk the fine for backyard breeding in your council flat than to comply with any laws.

Licensing fees should cover all costs such as wardens, kennels for seized dogs, education for owners, housing suitability checks etc. If costs go up, license fees go up. It’s fairly simple. People who want to own dogs have to pay for it. No license, no dog. Seizure and fines for those caught without a license, with escalating penalties each time they are caught without one.

faggotsandmushypaes · 16/04/2026 19:22

How can I get this post moved to chat, ?

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TheGoldenOwl · 16/04/2026 19:23

"make all dogs wear a muzzle at all times when outside"


😵‍💫 humans really think they own the planet don't they. Never mind the average dog that is outside probably loves nature more than the average human....

Brently · 16/04/2026 19:24

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Why not both!

TedDog · 16/04/2026 19:27

DrDonaldTrump · 16/04/2026 19:13

I am for a ban of all dogs, it is beyond ridiculous how we allow these animals in our society when they do so much damage - not just deaths but severe injuries.

If people can't bear the idea of a cull, then at the very least we should immediately spay/neuter all dogs, abort any pups if the bitch somehow does become pregnant, and make all dogs wear a muzzle at all times when outside. In your own home, your risk is on you.

Not sure this would have fixed things for any of the three who got killed in one week - baby got killed by runaway dogs, 19yo by her own dog, and so far seems this elder lady was in her own home. But it would be a step in the right direction.

I also dream of a pavement without dog shit on it, a park without dog piss everywhere.

ALL dogs?!

• So the guide dogs who transform the lives of blind people and give them their independence back, should be “banned?”
• The diabetic alert dogs who warn their owners in advance of dangerous lows and highs in their blood sugar, before any glucose monitors can, saving lives, they should also be “banned?”
• The dogs who alert their owners with Epilepsy or POTS that they’re about to have a seizure or are about to collapse, ahead of time, giving them time to get to a safe place to avoid injury, these should be “banned?”
• The sheepdogs who herd sheep and enable farmers to provide you with your dinner at Easter, they should be “banned?”
• The sniffer dogs who detect massive stashes of drugs that would otherwise go undetected and go on to almost certainly kill people, should be “banned?”
• The sniffer dogs who detect minute droplets blood smaller than the naked eye can see, solving murders, should be “banned?”
• The cadaver dogs who find deceased people and not only bring people to justice but finally give answers to grieving families, should be “banned?”
• The Police dogs who not only catch but also detain criminals whom the police would otherwise be totally unable to catch themselves, bringing these people to justice and in turn, preventing further crime, sometimes very serious crimes against innocent people and/or children; these dogs should be “banned?”
What about the wonderful little miniature schnauzer who kept my elderly mum going after my dad died, quite literally. He kept her going mentally and physically, getting her out of the house for walkies every day. Keeping her company and making her feel like life is worth continuing for at a time when she was suicidal.

Have a word with yourself!

WaryCrow · 16/04/2026 19:29

So.something has radically changed to make dogs become the potential and actual killers that they are now. @Classiclines

Most likely that’s to do with different reporting and attention spans. We had more regional news in those days, perhaps attacks could have appeared on regionals and not nationals? Dogs did sometimes bite, on my estate we were warned about a particular wandering dog that wasn’t reliable.

Although I am wondering - idle blue sky thinking - if all the animal kingdom is becoming more aggressive at the moment, in response to unknown stimuli, something to do with the magnetic field weakening? Not entirely serious. But humans obviously, orcas and seagulls seem to be worse as well as dogs.

Ive also noticed that the three victims this week are female. I don’t know if there is a pattern there.

Goldeh · 16/04/2026 19:29

DrDonaldTrump · 16/04/2026 19:26

Why not both!

Social housing providers almost always have a clause that says permission is needed to keep a dog. Instead of banning it outright, make the criteria more stringent and make it include an inspection. For example, property must be the appropriate size for the type of dog requested, should be no more than one dog, etc. And empower providers to actually enforce the rules instead of turning a blind eye.

OverlyFragrant · 16/04/2026 19:31

This is interesting because as far as I'm aware, none of the recent deaths have occurred in social housing.

WaryCrow · 16/04/2026 19:31

faggotsandmushypaes · 16/04/2026 19:22

How can I get this post moved to chat, ?

Report you r op to mumsnet and ask?

DrDonaldTrump · 16/04/2026 19:32

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TedDog · 16/04/2026 19:32

@BrentlyBan dogs from social housing? WTF? So disabled people, who had no choice but to live in social housing, or the millions of good, respectable and decent people who also happen to live in social housing, shouldn’t be allowed to have life changing companions? You sound absolutely VILE

DrDonaldTrump · 16/04/2026 19:33

TedDog · 16/04/2026 19:32

@BrentlyBan dogs from social housing? WTF? So disabled people, who had no choice but to live in social housing, or the millions of good, respectable and decent people who also happen to live in social housing, shouldn’t be allowed to have life changing companions? You sound absolutely VILE

And if I end up in social housing, I have to risk my life by being exposed to all these dogs?

TedDog · 16/04/2026 19:34

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Excuse you?????? Of course I was there for my mum but she wanted a dog! How fucking dare you?

The reason sniffer dogs & medic alert dogs are required is because no other good enough alternative IS physically possible.

You really do sound incredibly short of a few. Breathtakingly so. The absolute arrogance

Goldeh · 16/04/2026 19:34

WaryCrow · 16/04/2026 19:29

So.something has radically changed to make dogs become the potential and actual killers that they are now. @Classiclines

Most likely that’s to do with different reporting and attention spans. We had more regional news in those days, perhaps attacks could have appeared on regionals and not nationals? Dogs did sometimes bite, on my estate we were warned about a particular wandering dog that wasn’t reliable.

Although I am wondering - idle blue sky thinking - if all the animal kingdom is becoming more aggressive at the moment, in response to unknown stimuli, something to do with the magnetic field weakening? Not entirely serious. But humans obviously, orcas and seagulls seem to be worse as well as dogs.

Ive also noticed that the three victims this week are female. I don’t know if there is a pattern there.

Women are usually smaller, physically weaker, and therefore less able to fight off an attack. Women are also more likely to be in a domestic/home setting where the dogs are kept and to be in a caretaker role of feeding and supervising because care is almost always foisted onto women (babies and children also more likely to be in a domestic environment, alongside the dogs, and also under the care of women). Women are also less likely to be a domineering force in a dogs training/ownership so are socially weaker too.

TedDog · 16/04/2026 19:35

DrDonaldTrump · 16/04/2026 19:33

And if I end up in social housing, I have to risk my life by being exposed to all these dogs?

Exposed? You do realise that not all dogs in social housing are dangerous, don’t you?! 🤣

YeOldeGreyhound · 16/04/2026 19:35

Goldeh · 16/04/2026 19:29

Social housing providers almost always have a clause that says permission is needed to keep a dog. Instead of banning it outright, make the criteria more stringent and make it include an inspection. For example, property must be the appropriate size for the type of dog requested, should be no more than one dog, etc. And empower providers to actually enforce the rules instead of turning a blind eye.

My mum had 2 smaller lurchers in her council house which was fine. She now has a large greyhound, which was also fine.
It was the rescue that her greyhound came from that were more concerned if the house was suitable or not. She had to prove she had permission to have a dog. The council did not care about the size, and she had the dog for nearly a year before anyone actually came out to check about him (they took a photo of him for their records).

TedDog · 16/04/2026 19:36

OverlyFragrant · 16/04/2026 19:31

This is interesting because as far as I'm aware, none of the recent deaths have occurred in social housing.

THIS! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Mic drop 🎤

TheGoldenOwl · 16/04/2026 19:37

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Robot dogs already on page 3! New record?

The PP likely was there for her mum. Perhaps due to work and her own life, she wasnt able stop her life entirely, leave her job to move in with her mum and share every waking moment with her , and sleeping moment for that matter... you know the way a household pet does. Are you dense or something???

YeOldeGreyhound · 16/04/2026 19:37

TedDog · 16/04/2026 19:34

Excuse you?????? Of course I was there for my mum but she wanted a dog! How fucking dare you?

The reason sniffer dogs & medic alert dogs are required is because no other good enough alternative IS physically possible.

You really do sound incredibly short of a few. Breathtakingly so. The absolute arrogance

My grandad was a widower for nearly 25 years, and he always had dogs. They kept him going too. They are amazing company.